SouthernDragon
Member
Capcom admits 3rd strike exists?!
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
- Thread starter haunts
- Start date
abstract alien
Member
This game needs to have the options that were available in 3S. I had a huge wtf look on my face when I went to the menu for sf4 and didnt see a damn thing, where as 3S had like 4 pages of game mechanic options. I hate when games go backwards like that.
sixteen-bit
Member
not to mention the lack of local replay saves, when all 3 home ports of 3S let youabstract alien said:
ShinAmano said:
There are some sorta, kinda rumors about SF4 Dash which are probably false and everyone posts their SF4 wishlists as a result.
Augemitbutter said:
No.
Augemitbutter said:
I always thought his hair looked really stupid, even by japanese character design standards.
abstract alien
Member
Jesus, yes. The few times I have had shining moments, I was unable to record them :lol ._dementia said:
As they say, pics/video or it didnt happen :^(
ShinAmano said:
It seem the rumors about SF IV dash will come to an end at TGS.
It could be officially be announced at the show and there's a rumors of 10 more characters added to the roster.
To me,it's been obvious since SF IV was released since you always need a revision to polish a competitive game.Even Starcraft which is the most balanced rts needed brood wars,so I never believed Ono and all that talk of funding or that Capcom was severely against SF IV dash.
By the way,I was rooting for Adon to make the cut.I think his character design is great and he's also one of the more annoying character because of his screams and voice. :lol I would be disappointed if Karin and Birdie didn't make the cut however.
Birdie was the T.Hawk of alpha(gutter trash grab character),but he deserve another chance in the spotlight just as much as the bland Hawk.At least Birdie got the crazy haircut going for him. DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
http://streetfighterblog.blogspot.com said:
That would be cool and gives taunts a real purpose. Does any other fighter do this?
donkey show
Member
What's your paypal? I have $150+ to give to you right now.MarkMan said:
~Devil Trigger~ said:
Well Gief's current life just exacerbates the problem - with some characters it's such an idiotic uphill battle (Viper, for one, needs to work probably 5x as Gief for the same damage) and due to his current mechanics and priorities his life is a huge problem. If they tone him down and the rest of his stuff gets changed, then sure, keeping his current life will make sense (if Viper has to do 5 hits for one of Gief's hits, then Gief must work 5x as hard to actually HIT Viper). That sort of stuff, really.
The thing with Ultras doing full hits is that I think they should either always have all hits guaranteed or everybody's ultra does not have all hits guaranteed. My point was more about making sure that Ultras that have 2 "phases" - initial hits then a camera change, the 2nd phase always happens.
If you juggle with Cammy's ultra, she won't do her final camera change hits after the cannon spike. Same with Fei Long, etc. I know WHY they don't do it, but I doubt it's unfixable.
abstract alien
Member
I second this. Not sure if any other one outside of SF3 does it. You can juggle people with a few of the taunts in tekken, but its just for show really.DaCocoBrova said:
...and where is this talk of Gouken having a daughter coming from? Is it mentioned in the game?
sixteen-bit
Member
give to his what?donkey show said:
TimeKillr said:
The arguement I've read at SRK is that Zangief does not need to be toned down since he rarely, if ever wins or even becomes a dominant force in tournaments. Personally, I find his lariat makes him stupid and boring since there's very little decision making up close; lariat is pretty much always the best answer in close range situations.
myDingling
Member
Anyone not excited about 10 new characters? This shit's going to turn into Tekken 6, goddamn. I mean, all things considered Capcom has kept SF4 incredibly well balanced but bringing so many more people into the mix seems kind of risky. I think they can change up the gameplay without having to add so many new faces...
Killa Sasa
Member
New official blog post basically says "you know how we told you we would tell you what's up? We'll tell you what's up at TGS".
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
Not to be a douche, but isnt that kinda old? Seems like an 8800 would be a wiser and more current card, if you're looking for one on the cheap.ntropy said:
Isn't that what the rumor was? That they'd reveal what was up at TGS?Killa Sasa said:
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
myDingling said:
i'd be fine with 5, as long as Makoto is one of them.
Rice-Eater
Member
ntropy said:
That's old as hell and even if you play the game with good character models and nice looking backgrounds, it'll probably be at 30 frames per second. Get something like a 9800GT. It's relatively cheap($110 at Newegg) and should allow you to run decently high settings. Or do some research and get something even better I think that's a good suggestion.
MoxManiac said:
This is the exact reason why I run from every good Zangief I face. No matter the situation, mashing lariat seems to be the answer for everything. I can live with the command throws but I can't poke Zangief at all without the lariat coming out and wacking me into the air.
sixteen-bit
Member
Terrible comparison. Tekken 6 is balanced. Despite 40+ characters there's no C tier or lower and no S tier.myDingling said:
I can't wait
/bitterness off, optimism on...I actually like Dudley, can't say the same for the two jab ultra trap-star though.
Here's hoping they balance things out and actually change the gameplay a bit, instead of just adding characters and a few more stages.
to have jab battles with Dudley vs Balrog for title of most annoying character.
Here's hoping they balance things out and actually change the gameplay a bit, instead of just adding characters and a few more stages.
SuperMattyFighter2T
Banned
TimeKillr said:
Sure. Some of them are annoying. I'd like to be able to walk forward and throw a fireball without it giving me a SRK.
Sure. I would be okay with some minor changes here. They can add a hit box to Boxer's jumping fierce so he can't land on top of projectiles anymore without getting hit. Overall I don't really have huge issues in this area and would rather see them focus on other areas.
Sagat is good. Really good. I don't think he is broken though. Sagat players aren't exactly dominating tournaments worldwide. Only change I would make is not allowing f.rh to combo into f.rh. f.rh, f.rh, ultra is a bit ridiculous. I would also look at the Tiger Uppercut and the amount it trades. I wouldn't make it never trade, but currently it trades in too many situations.
His karas tu/ts/tk are just fine how they are. And BS links into ultra? I think characters like Ryu are more broken in this sense. Ryu has a billion ways to combo into super or ultra. It's kind of sickening actually. Going to disagree with you here, but it might help if I knew why I was disagreeing with you. Why are they BS combos?
His life and stun are fine how they are. I'm not sure how I would tweak the lariat though. Maybe just a slightly longer recovering on it to discourage people from spamming it. I actually think Gief is pretty fine how he is. I feel bad for Sim and Abel players, but Zangief has equally bad matchups also.
If it was my choice throws would be instant like in ST.
Going to disagree with this also. Especially since you haven't explained yourself at all.
I'll agree with this.
I'll agree blockstun needs to be looked at on some moves. Not going to agree there needs to be a sweeping change on how they're doing things though. You wouldn't want to make block strings even more powerful would you? It would break the game.
Going to disagree. I already covered this up above where you talk about Sagat. I think the frequency that these moves trade needs to be looked at, but I'm not for removing trades/juggles completely. Don't see why they'd need to water the game down so much when a simple tweak is all that is required.
10- All Ultras should do their full hits. Self-explanatory
I agree. All characters should also be able to combo into ultra.
Going to disagree with this. It works in a lot of games, but not SF! I don't like giving players a get out of jail free card when they put themselves in a bad situation. It would hurt the ground meta game, and new players don't need any more incentive to jump. First rule of Street Fighter should be to not jump and put yourself in bad situations. Only jump when it benefits yourself. If people could figure this out they might not complain about Sagat so much
myDingling
Member
_dementia said:
Not saying Tekken isn't balanced, I wouldn't know.
I just don't like the idea of adding so many characters. We don't need 2 boxers, 3 or four grapplers, or anymore goddamn shotos. What's the point in having so many characters when they all fall into certain categories and nothing changes much except for the animations + frame data.
I guess there's still so much left to discover in SF4 right now, it seems counterintuitive to infuse with more characters. Maybe in two years, but not right now.
All I want from Dash would be an SF4 refresh. Same characters with more stages, better online, and character tweaks. Maybe character customization ala VF5 would be nice. Selectable super/ultra is cool but not necessary. Do that all for $30 and make a new arcade version and they've got me sold.
SuperMattyFighter2T
Banned
Degen said:Meanwhile my Blazblue has 12 characters and can't even get that right
This is my first time hearing about the megaton rumor, but if that list is accurate, those are some good choices. My man Dudley.
BB is also the first iteration of the series. And even at that there are really only two characters I think really need some minor changes. Nu and Arakune.
sixteen-bit
Member
what's that i thought they just went from II to IVHitokage said:
sixteen-bit
Member
especially since he's the protag of IIIShinAmano said:
though canonically, he isn't supposed to meet Ryu until III, so I guess there's that
just give his friend Tom (*Jean Reno*) his move set and add him
SuperMattyFighter2T
Banned
Pctx said:
Most likely it will be standalone. That is my guess as to why they are putting so much work into adding that many characters. If they just added a few characters, and sold it as a new disc, people would bitch like crazy.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
Couldn't be full price, though, could it? I can't imagine many people who passed on vanilla sf4 would pick it up now, and I can't imagine many people who bought original sf4 would re-buy it. I really wanna see how they handle this, as I've been skeptical on what they would do ever since Capcom said 'no DLC characters', way back when.SuperMattyFighter2T said:
sixteen-bit
Member
But a DLC update would also be segmenting the market.Pctx said:
I mean, they could only sell to existing SFIV players instead of courting new ones.
_dementia said:
I think what they should do is simply make this a free add-on for Street Fighter 4 and NOT segment the market.
I think having a major game release---- and giving it more options or modes increases the value of the game without punishing the gamer for it. I look at the outfits that they sold for $2.99 a pack--- I admit, I bought some of them--- but really, what was the point? It did enhance the game (argument is that the PC version has limitless possibilities with their alt costumes which is true...) and breathed new life into it. Now with all the 3 major versions out, I think Capcom has a chance to continue to capture the market they had when the game first released + bring in new people w/o having to charge for it.
abstract alien said:
It's from this post.....http://streetfighterblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-shizowa-san-questions-and-answers.html
I'm just dreaming of curved fireballs with her! :lol
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
I dunno about segmentation...aren't the people that are still playing sf4 the market for this? You've gotta figure a good chunk of them would drop the dollars...I just wonder how big that market actually is.
Keep this shit out of my SF! ^^myDingling said:
I can't stand this stupid character customization thing, creating so many ugly characters you don't even know who is playing who anymore. Urg.
Gimme more alternate outfits, but none of this carnival uglyness! >__<
But really, first of all, we need more awesome stages a la Overpass.
SuperMattyFighter2T
Banned
Pctx said:
Never going to happen. You know, the goal is to make money and stay in business. We're lucky we got the championship mode patch and that probably took a single programer, a ui artist, and a little qa time. No way they are going to use up their designer, 3d artist, animator, texture artist, sound, ui artist, and qa man hours on new characters and then give it away for free just so they don't segment their player base.
Shito said:
I agree. I've seen how hideous my friend's VF5 characters end up. I don't play VF5, so I don't know the movsets... I always had to ask who the hell their ugly ass character really was.
Bring on my alt costumes and stages though. I prefer stages from previous SFs. SFIV stages are so generic and boring =/