Oichi said:
Dude you're delusional, seriously. Stop trying to convince people that Sagat isn't dominating, because he IS dominating.
End of June till mid-August tourney results:
Sagat 173 wins
Ryu 133 wins
Boxer 105 wins
Zangief 102 wins
1 Year Period
Sagat 1358 wins
Ryu 878 wins
Boxer 833 wins
Rufus 605 wins
Zangief 598 wins
I've already argued these numbers with a friend today after he saw me post. There are all kinds of problems with the data this
blog is giving. Too many variables it doesn't account for, but lets argue it anyway.
If you want to look at the
July and August report... 18 Sagat first places out of 97 tournaments (give or take a few due to counting error) listed for July. 14 first places for Sagat out of 65 tournaments in August (give or take a few). So that is 32 first places out of about 162 tournaments in a two month time span. This also counts people who played multiple characters in the tournament, or were on a team, so it isn't obvious what character they excelled and won with. These numbers also don't show what skill level these Sagats are playing at, and what kind of competition they are playing. Some tournaments don't even have the player information listed, nor is this even a comprehensive list of all tournaments that have taken place I'm sure. But since we're arguing bad numbers anyway, those numbers aren't dominating in my opinion.
And I don't disagree that Sagat does well in tournaments, but he isn't dominating to the degree people want to believe. Lets look at the
July and August numbers again. Over the 162 tournaments (give or take a few), in July and August, Sagat shows up 88 times. So yeah, Sagat does VERY WELL on a regular basis in tournaments. He gets top 3 a lot apparently, but he isn't dominating the #1 spot. I would also like to point out that the chart you posted is based on points given to a character for placing in the top 3. 3 points for first, 2 points for second, and 1 point for third. That is the reason those charts make Sagat look worse than he is. Because like I just said, he is getting a lot of top 3 finishes. I never remember claiming he wasn't.
Anyway, yeah Sagat is top tier. Duh. I would hope people would focus their time on voicing how their characters could be improved instead of constantly complaining about other characters. There will always be top tier, and if it isn't Sagat it will be another character. And then everyone will cry about whatever character is left with the top tier status and the same shit repeats over and over again. Not that I'm opposing some Sagat changes for the update. Stuff like f.rh, f.rh. into ultra is a bit ridiculous. I also think the amount TU's trade, and SRKs in general, needs to be looked at. But I don't think Sagat is a broken character. High tier, yes. Broken? No. But whatever, I know I'm in the minority here and it's impossible to win this arguement. So whatever dude.
