abstract alien
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Lmao, thats what I was thinking, but didnt want to say anything.Dascu said:Maybe that's the release date?
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The Official Street Fighter IV Thread of FADCing a Stranger in the Alps
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sixteen-bit
Member
Yeah, I like the shittalking in the rival matches in arcade mode. The same concept is present it some other games. I don't mind it in Blazblue, but a lot of people do :/sionyboy said:I'd like it if those little quotes in the grudge matches made it into normal play, if only I could hear Sagat's "RYYYYUUUUUUUUUUU" every time I went for an Ultra
Looking forward to Capcom's announcement, I noticed today that I have surpassed 100hrs in SF4, and that's just on my copy, I do majority of my fighting around my friends house..... :s
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
KAL2006 said:
I never understood why so many people get upset about this and focus on tiers so much. look at max's ken. everyone thought ken was super low tier and max shows he can be extremely dangerous with him. no one played gen and everyone discounted him until yeb wrecked wcw. same goes for sabre and his sakura as he dismantled valle and his ryu. tiers don't matter. the better PLAYER will always win.
Yeah, I hope they don't change how characters play. Maybe up some defense of some characters, lower damage on some moves, fix up some hitbox issues perhaps, but the actual moveset properties should stay the same (no matter how much I hate lariat).
EDIT - this is to not alienate arcade to console players.
EDIT - this is to not alienate arcade to console players.
sixteen-bit
Member
eh, tiers are dictated by high-level playbdizzle said:
Killa Sasa
Member
LakeEarth said:
I agree with this mostly (lariat should not hit low, that move has enough bullshit properties already) - incremental balancing changes are all I really want to see, and maybe a new move for some of the lower tier characters who have to rely more on shenanigans than actual options.
bdizzle said:
Gen just happens to be the most solid of the low tier characters against the top tier. And I play in an area with a very good Gen.
What's needed is buffs for the chars with bad matchups- to deal with those matchups, and nerfs to Sagat,Akuma, Ryu, and Rufus (all Rufus needs is a nerfed ultra) .
SF4 is already damn well balanced. There are some things that need looked at for sure IMO (im looking at you trade DPs into juggles) but overall im hoping for minimal changes.
People complain about shit like Rufus geezus kick but his wake up game would be absolutely horrible without it and that's WITH meter.
People complain about shit like Rufus geezus kick but his wake up game would be absolutely horrible without it and that's WITH meter.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
main a low tier character and see whats up.bdizzle said:
edit: but yea, play style is more important than tier ranking
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
friday at TGS, iirc. or sometime at TGSCorky said:
sixteen-bit
Member
the only day I've seen mentioned was kensk's October 1 dateCorky said:
edit: or what bistromathics said?
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
ohh, i never heard october 1st. i dont know why i think friday...i mean i dont remember where i originally read it. TGS seems like it should be the place though, right?
BotoxAgent
Member
PhatSaqs said:
I agree with this.
Just fix the online issues and include lobbies please.
sixteen-bit
Member
yep, if this potential revision has rollback online code i'll be a happy camper
Rocky_Balboa
Member
My wish list for Super Street Fighter 4 Turbo Dash would be:
*Nerfing and buffing some characters (Gief, Sagat, Cammy, Fei Long, Vega and so on)
*Fixing bugs and glitches
*New backgrounds and music
*Decent replay system (current one is bullshit)
*More stats (how many matches against some character and so on)
*Lobbies for online playing
*With lobbies comes more modes like tournaments and kumite etc.
*2 Ultra options for each character
*More options for searching matches (for example 'remove all 1&2 bar connections')
*If it is going to be stand alone disc, then it would be nice to be able to import all my stats from the current version. DLC also.
*Nerfing and buffing some characters (Gief, Sagat, Cammy, Fei Long, Vega and so on)
*Fixing bugs and glitches
*New backgrounds and music
*Decent replay system (current one is bullshit)
*More stats (how many matches against some character and so on)
*Lobbies for online playing
*With lobbies comes more modes like tournaments and kumite etc.
*2 Ultra options for each character
*More options for searching matches (for example 'remove all 1&2 bar connections')
*If it is going to be stand alone disc, then it would be nice to be able to import all my stats from the current version. DLC also.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
I started out just being general hyped that there was going to be any kind of update/re-vamp of sf4, but my mind was already compiling the wouldn't-it-be-cool-if list, which always, always ends with disappointment
Nose Master
Member
bdizzle said:
Yeah, but the thing is, a bad sagat can beat an amazing Ken if he makes two mistakes. A ho-hum Sagat can make mistakes all the way to the bank and still squeeze out a victory.
Rocky_Balboa
Member
Yeah. Also why can't I change the speed of the replay or rewind? They have slowmo, but no rewind or fast forward.LakeEarth said:
abstract alien
Member
edit: already addressed
thelastword
Banned
Anybody got a link to the video where an Abel player keeps rolling and totally dominates his opponent?
sixteen-bit
Member
the Ojisanboy one?thelastword said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej7LsUvVaN0
here's a funny one incorporating the lk roll in a mixup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ZloKNgOho#t=3m58s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej7LsUvVaN0
Ojisan Boy vs. Yoshiwo
Theres another one with Shiro in an Abel mirror match. I don't remember his opponents name (I thought it was Tokido).
Ojisan Boy vs. Yoshiwo
Theres another one with Shiro in an Abel mirror match. I don't remember his opponents name (I thought it was Tokido).
sixteen-bit
Member
Shiro vs Tobo I think. Total dominance.Leunam said:
FindMyFarms
Member
Yoshiwo played real nice though.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
DR2K said:
I understand they win more, but that doesn't mean they're broken or need to fixed. It's like JWong, he uses abel, rufus, and balrog and still beats the majority of players he runs across because he's the better player (probably the best in the us). Even if you nerf sagat, that's not going to stop the top tier of players from dominating the game no matter who they pick. It's not going to stop the sagat players from migrating to the next character, dominating with them, then have everyone scream, ryu needs to be nerfed, gief needs to be nerfed, akuma needs to be nerfed, etc.
thelastword
Banned
Thanks guys, but yes, I think it was a mirrored match._dementia said:
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
i think everyone understands tiers but likes to argue about them anyways
DR2K said:
SFIV is still fairly new. The tiers are going to shift around quite a bit.
While I hate to point to another game for reference, look at Kuroda and his Q in SFIII. He's a character most consider bottom tier, yet he consistently does well in tournaments where he plays Q. Ultimately, I think it will usually come down to the player. Abel is considered solid middle by most Shiro and Ojisan Boy can still pull off wins against Ryus, Sagats, and Akumas.
FindMyFarms
Member
I just want Claw to be playable :/
of course tiers matter much less to people like kuroda..aka people that are *really* good at SF..you can always say that in any game..its the player not the character etc..but higher tier characters have more tools with which to get the W across all skill levels.
"God's Beard!"
Member
The problem with tiers isn't just about balance, but that it means the majority of players only play certain characters. I don't want another sf3 where everyone plays ken, chun or yun. Q should have been more popular :-(
Still, I don't want the game to be balanced so much as diversified. Give characters with only a few moves more specials or unique normals(Fei Long, Guile), make sure everyone has an overhead(cammy), and in general mix things up a little to make characters more interesting to play(bring back ryu's side kick!).
Other than that, just add turbo mode, super options(mahvel-style abc projectile, anti-air, etc), the grass stage from alpha 2 and motherfucking custom win quotes!
Still, I don't want the game to be balanced so much as diversified. Give characters with only a few moves more specials or unique normals(Fei Long, Guile), make sure everyone has an overhead(cammy), and in general mix things up a little to make characters more interesting to play(bring back ryu's side kick!).
Other than that, just add turbo mode, super options(mahvel-style abc projectile, anti-air, etc), the grass stage from alpha 2 and motherfucking custom win quotes!
Perfect Blue
Banned
Wow that's insane. D:_dementia said:
FindMyFarms
Member
Ysiadmihi said:
You have to play Cammy like Rufus. Her dive kicks have a tad bit more startup but give you better frame advantage. Once you get in close, use TK strike mixups. No one's going to sit there and eat chip damage and/or get thrown all day. Also Cammy gets mad ambiguous crossup setups off forward throw. Camping against cammy is NOT something you want to do when she's played right.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Cammy's focus attack should hit overhead.