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The Oily, Gentlemanly Super Spin Fighter 4 Reveal Thread of Kunoichis and Karatekas

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kitzkozan

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Threi said:
GAF's hate for the Juri design is even MORE incentive for me to main her, and I didn't think that was possible :lol


and as an aside, I just recently realized that my fav 3s char is:

rku44n.gif


"GET ATTA MA WAY!"

Fanboys are often irrational. :D

A street fighter character should be about as stereotyped and generic as possible since the original 12 were designed in such a way back in 1991. :lol It's quite possible that the new blood is more modern in term of design like C.Viper or Rufus.Abel and Fuerte are bland and generic,but they do not fit the Street fighter mold better than Juri or Rufus or Viper.

There is not a blueprint set in stone as to how a SF character should look.Hence the freaking SF III characters.
 
Threi said:
GAF's hate for the Juri design is even MORE incentive for me to main her, and I didn't think that was possible :lol


and as an aside, I just recently realized that my fav 3s char is:

rku44n.gif


"GET ATTA MA WAY!"
Necro is awesome

and his mascot is adorable
 

Hellion

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PLEASE NO SF3 FREAKS CAPCOM...(O.K maybe Yun)

That said More Alpha3 and SF2 Characters.

Leunam said:
Once people figure out that Dudley and Makoto have no fireball, they'll go right back to Ken.

My Shoto beats your art. :lol
 

thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Hellion said:
PLEASE NO SF3 FREAKS CAPCOM...(O.K maybe Yun)

That said More Alpha3 and SF2 Characters.

PLEASE DON'T LISTEN TO HELLION CAPCOM...more SF3 freaks, please.
 

Cowie

Member
First thing I plan to do when I pop this game in the system (or god forbid travel to an arcade to play it) is check out Juri. (along with everyone else in this thread, haha)

That said, looking at that tiny little thing, there's no way capcom is gonna give her more than 900 health ;\ Maybe Sagat won't be able to take 2/3 of my life bar so easily this time around.
 

arstal

Whine Whine FADC Troll
I loved the SF3 non-freaks. SF3 had some great designs.

Alex, Elena , Makoto.

Elena would have been nice in SFIV, especially if her super was healing- would have made some nice tactical choices.
 

SovanJedi

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Why am I always shocked at how strongly the internet reacts to new stuff with negative views? Juri looks awesome and T. Hawk made the transition well too.

I might just sell my copy and wait for this now then. I never even got around to unlocking anybody in the original version, so there's no point starting.
 

Steaks

Member
arstal said:
I loved the SF3 non-freaks. SF3 had some great designs.

Alex, Elena , Makoto.

Elena would have been nice in SFIV, especially if her super was healing- would have made some nice tactical choices.
The same tactical choice of almost never using a super unless you are like 3 characters?
 

qcf x2

Member
I like how people shit on every new character Capcom has designed since SSF2. As if A.) the original SF roster was full of amazing character designs and B.) Nothing new or different can possibly be good unless it directly resembles someone they know (ie shoto clones).

Viper's design was shitted on, the brilliant 3s cast was shitted on, this new girl is shitted on, I mean seriously. Shit on the generic sumo, the "rogue warrior" who doesn't wear shoes even after the fight is over, the skinny yoga practitioner, the guy from Thailand who doesn't look like he's from Thailand but is the boss anyways, the bad 80's hair American with two moves in his entire career of appearances, etc. The original cast wasn't amazing. We haven't seen enough of the other characters yet. So pause the bitching at least for a little while. I'm skeptical on how the 3s characters will look in 3D but let's at least wait til we get some solid visual evidence...
 

SoulFist

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I'm diggin Juri's design. Her moves look pretty interesting as well. I always wondered why there was never a really kick heavy street fighter except Elena.
 
qcf x2 said:
I like how people shit on every new character Capcom has designed since SSF2. As if A.) the original SF roster was full of amazing character designs and B.) Nothing new or different can possibly be good unless it directly resembles someone they know (ie shoto clones).

Viper's design was shitted on, the brilliant 3s cast was shitted on, this new girl is shitted on, I mean seriously. Shit on the generic sumo, the "rogue warrior" who doesn't wear shoes even after the fight is over, the skinny yoga practitioner, the guy from Thailand who doesn't look like he's from Thailand but is the boss anyways, the bad 80's hair American with two moves in his entire career of appearances, etc. The original cast wasn't amazing. We haven't seen enough of the other characters yet. So pause the bitching at least for a little while. I'm skeptical on how the 3s characters will look in 3D but let's at least wait til we get some solid visual evidence...

lol it is fucking sad how guile is pretty much the red headed step child of the series.
 

AFreak

Banned
Superblatt said:
This had better be available as downloadable content, as the last time Capcom pulled this shit, I was 13. And, I was naive enough to purchase Street Fighter 2, Street Fighter 2 Turbo and Super Street Fighter 2 on my SNES. Now that I'm almost 30, I'd like to think they would NOT take advantage of my Street Fighter obsession by rapping my wallet with a $60 disc release. Ah, who am I to really give a fuck...I'll buy it regardless.

EDIT: Looks like the Japanese SF4 site now says Tuesday for the official annoucement: http://www.capcom.co.jp/newwarrior/index.html

EDIT: First Official Logo Image and Screenshots are In!!

They'll just rape your wallet with overpriced DLC. I don't see the difference.
 

fubarduck

Member
Arpharmd B said:
They are called upgrade kits or whatever, and they've been around since the arcade days.

The basically sell a new board with the game, marquee art, and everything for thousands and thousands of dollars.

Fixed.
 

Mr Jared

Member
Jezan said:
Chun-Li will get the Kiokou Shou back!!! :O It will look awesome!!!

Augh, no thank you. Kikosho has been pretty worthless in games past and really, so is any projectile that doesn't move forward. As someone who mains Chun-Li, I don't think she needs any major buffs. My wishlist looks something like..

+ HP Boost to 1,000 (currently 900)
+ Tweak Ultra to juggle all cast in corner (currently I can name them all on one hand)
+ Greater priority / start-up invincibility on EX SBK (would make Rufus/Akuma/Rog matches more fair)

And that's pretty much all she needs to be more competitive. If it's true and everyone gets a second Ultra, I'd like it to be something that could be useful for anti-air punishes because seriously, EX SBK is her only option and that's not cutting it at all.

bdizzle said:
lol it is fucking sad how guile is pretty much the red headed step child of the series.

The reason why they never gave Guile new moves is that he doesn't need them. Fastest recovery off projectiles, clean anti-air option, also incredible normals that can be used both defensively as well as offensively ... couple all this with the ability to charge partition and he's always been a monster.

He's weak in SF4, but it mainly comes down to his priorities and recovery times being totally out of whack. If they leave him alone and just tweak what they already gave him, he'll shoot up the tiers in a flash.
 
qcf x2 said:
I like how people shit on every new character Capcom has designed since SSF2. As if A.) the original SF roster was full of amazing character designs and B.) Nothing new or different can possibly be good unless it directly resembles someone they know (ie shoto clones).

Personally, I think Capcom has great artists and design team. The characters in RE, DMC (not the monster designs in IV), etc have all been legendary. But with some of their titles, they've sort of taken a generic approach to designs. Ryu = Typical Karate Master. Gen = Wise Old Kung Fu Master. Fuerte = generic Lucha Libre. Yadda, yadda.

The new characters seemed to have a more modern day approach, especially Viper.

Personally, I prefer SNK designs, as they seem like something you'd come across in the real world. Kyo has his jeans, leather jacket, white tee. It's sort of generic but at least in a real-world sense.

I hope with V, they attempt a 3 part Deux and try to ditch the past (somewhat) and create a new cast of characters or incorporate past characters but with new designs. Now, I want to go play KOFXII (with a side of SFIV).
 

Shito

Member
Mr Jared said:
Augh, no thank you. Kikosho has been pretty worthless in games past and really, so is any projectile that doesn't move forward. As someone who mains Chun-Li, I don't think she needs any major buffs. My wishlist looks something like..

+ HP Boost to 1,000 (currently 900)
+ Tweak Ultra to juggle all cast in corner (currently I can name them all on one hand)
+ Greater priority / start-up invincibility on EX SBK (would make Rufus/Akuma/Rog matches more fair)

And that's pretty much all she needs to be more competitive. If it's true and everyone gets a second Ultra, I'd like it to be something that could be useful for anti-air punishes because seriously, EX SBK is her only option and that's not cutting it at all.
This guy mains Chun.
Listen to him, Capcom.
As a guy who also mains Chun, I beg of you.

Also: I like Juri.
Design and (what we can imagine of her) moves.

EDIT: oh, yeah, I remember now! Kikosho was indeed in the list of the leaked infos. Guess that will be Chun's second ultra then...
 

Lumine

Member
This is actually real? Nice!

Any info if this will be hitting as a DLC for SF4 or if it'll be a completely new retail iteration? If the former, then fuck yeah! If the latter, then I'm not so sure yet.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
ultim8p00 said:
C-Viper = Vanessa
Juri = Kim?
Fixed.
He is not Kaphwan anymore. (The 'real' Kaphwan retired)
 

qcf x2

Member
Spiderjericho said:
Personally, I prefer SNK designs, as they seem like something you'd come across in the real world. Kyo has his jeans, leather jacket, white tee. It's sort of generic but at least in a real-world sense.

I hope with V, they attempt a 3 part Deux and try to ditch the past (somewhat) and create a new cast of characters or incorporate past characters but with new designs. Now, I want to go play KOFXII (with a side of SFIV).

SNK designs are just about untouchable, other than when they do Oolong and cross dressers. But that's another thread. They will never have the balls (or the green light) to do a "3 part deux" again. Ever. People want the generic sumo.
 
Lumine said:
This is actually real? Nice!

Any info if this will be hitting as a DLC for SF4 or if it'll be a completely new retail iteration? If the former, then fuck yeah! If the latter, then I'm not so sure yet.
at this moment, it's an arcade game
 

~Devil Trigger~

In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Spiderjericho said:
Personally, I think Capcom has great artists and design team. The characters in RE, DMC (not the monster designs in IV), etc have all been legendary. But with some of their titles, they've sort of taken a generic approach to designs. Ryu = Typical Karate Master. Gen = Wise Old Kung Fu Master. Fuerte = generic Lucha Libre. Yadda, yadda.

The new characters seemed to have a more modern day approach, especially Viper.

Personally, I prefer SNK designs, as they seem like something you'd come across in the real world. Kyo has his jeans, leather jacket, white tee. It's sort of generic but at least in a real-world sense.

I hope with V, they attempt a 3 part Deux and try to ditch the past (somewhat) and create a new cast of characters or incorporate past characters but with new designs. Now, I want to go play KOFXII (with a side of SFIV).

i dont want Ash Crimson thank you.

im not shitting on SNK but i'd rather have the generic Luchador than the generic club kid.

SF design have been more inspired by combat culture(its history, sports, movies, stories..ect) most of the characters can be tied to a particular Art of combat, some to a movie character or character type , and some by historical art/religious stuff.

plus the way the character moves and play is part of the design too, and frankly i cant put Viper next to any SNK fighter in that category.
 

Threi

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Spiderjericho said:
I hope with V, they attempt a 3 part Deux and try to ditch the past (somewhat) and create a new cast of characters or incorporate past characters but with new designs.
They did that (see: guile vs metrosexual guile), nobody cared.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
Guys dont derail the thread!
This thread is about the awesomeness of SSFIV!!!
We can have another one about the SNK awesomeness later.
 
Oh yeah...fuck, how come there has never been any Mike Haggar in these games?

BRING BACK FUCKING MIKE HAGGAR. I'd rather have him than Hugo as the "vs. Zangief" character in the game!
 

Mr Jared

Member
Shito said:
EDIT: oh, yeah, I remember now! Kikosho was indeed in the list of the leaked infos. Guess that will be Chun's second ultra then...

Which I guess could technically work as an anti-air so long as it doesn't reflect the person right off of it as it did in the Alpha series. HMM..

Oh, I thought of one other tweak I'd like to see with Chun that I bet will never happen: more weight to her jump. Jumping-in with Chun the way it is now is suicide unless you cleanly predict something.
 

Leunam

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_dementia said:
Why, because they're both blonde and have command grabs?

Because that's where the similarities end.

Their flags are red white and blue also.

Stop ignoring important details just to prove your point. :mad:
 

AFreak

Banned
_dementia said:
not unless you're God's Beard's alt account

I'm not. I thought u was the only one that liked him though. I'm not good with him, but I have almost beat the game with him on the hardest difficulty and I guess that counts for something( Killed Seth once and then only had one more hit left but he Ultraed me out of a jump).
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Mr Jared said:
Augh, no thank you. Kikosho has been pretty worthless in games past and really, so is any projectile that doesn't move forward. As someone who mains Chun-Li, I don't think she needs any major buffs. My wishlist looks something like..

+ HP Boost to 1,000 (currently 900)
+ Tweak Ultra to juggle all cast in corner (currently I can name them all on one hand)
+ Greater priority / start-up invincibility on EX SBK (would make Rufus/Akuma/Rog matches more fair)

And that's pretty much all she needs to be more competitive. If it's true and everyone gets a second Ultra, I'd like it to be something that could be useful for anti-air punishes because seriously, EX SBK is her only option and that's not cutting it at all.
Ok, in 3S Chun-Li had her SA2 that everyone used, which was very low priority and needed to be hit-confirmed(by just about anything), but her other two SAs were high priority and worked as fantastic anti-airs. Unfortunately, lightning priority and anti-air was all SA3 had going for it because if you tried to hit-confirm you'd knock the other person too far away to hit it. SA1, the Kikoushou, had much better range, landed more hits, gave more damage, and had about as good priority, but limited your EX use.

Given that EX moves are not tied to Ultras, the Kikoushou's return should be glorious indeed.
 
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