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[LowParry]

Claw vids. Where are youuuuuu?

 

[Spiderjericho]

Claw vids. Where are youuuuuu?

There was the claw fighting J.Wong. I noticed the initial hit going up to the wall for his ultra (though J.Wong blocked it).

I wish AZ Greg could test Claw to let us know the changes (as well as Jibbo/Yeb w Gen).

 

[ShinAmano]

Can anyone fill me in on how Random select works in Super?

I want to know if when you select random does that include secondary choices (outfit/color/taunt/ultra) so everything is 100% random or is it just character and you can choose to set up the character as you see fit?

Thanks.

 

[Arde5643]

Interesting footage from FADC/Empire.

It's clear that Justin isn't that experienced with the new characters and was relying on his skill to sort of carry him. I'm not sure if it was because the player was inexperienced but he was caught in a weird Kunai dagger trap with Ibuki.

I can't believe the game is gold...and they haven't released it. They should move the release up two weeks. It's not even going to make a real blip on the NPD.

And Blanka is cool. He's all about tricks, mixups. Definitely a change of pace from the Ryukentigers. With the new characters, there's a lil bit of something for everyone's playing style.

The other player blocked the kunai the wrong way. it's the old Yoga Catastrophe switcheroo deal.

 

[jman2050]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=setzo6PXNy0

Dudley is new Ken flowchart confirmed. :lol

Justin: It's another cheap character with cheap ultra setups.
Guy: And that's why you're playing Dudley
Justin: Yes

I saw that whole exchange coming as soon as he started the first sentence :lol

 

[sixteen-bit]

Can anyone fill me in on how Random select works in Super?

I want to know if when you select random does that include secondary choices (outfit/color/taunt/ultra) so everything is 100% random or is it just character and you can choose to set up the character as you see fit?

Thanks.

According to the giant bomb livestream, ultras are random as well

 

[SouthernDragon]

haven't talked to him. i mean you CAN kara with f+lk but its so incredibly hard and doesnt give the same range a s.lk would its not even worth it. just being able to kara her ex oroshi would help her game immensely, she def needs a bit more range on some of her moves.

shes already pretty good I guess but I wont respect any makoto players thats for sure. it's pretty much all or nothing and a ton of guessing, just like the old days. not a whole lot of skill involved, shes super easy to play with her ultra 1 set ups and easy stun.

Wait, the Sagat player in SFIV is saying he'll give no respect to (prospectively) mid-tier Makoto players in SSFIV?

 

[LowParry]

There was the claw fighting J.Wong. I noticed the initial hit going up to the wall for his ultra (though J.Wong blocked it).

I wish AZ Greg could test Claw to let us know the changes (as well as Jibbo/Yeb w Gen).

Yeah. I saw that vid too. Looks like the df/mk is more safe to block after. Though there's a lot of things I want to try with Vega. But yeah, U1 has the hit on start up so glad to see it for myself.

 

[haunts]

Wait, the Sagat player in SFIV is saying he'll give no respect to (prospectively) mid-tier Makoto players in SSFIV?

Sagat is hard to use, you have to know how to throw a proper fireball game, he doesnt have the luxury of decent mobility and he has a horrible footsie game. That said, hes even harder to use in SSF4. He's easily mid tier now.

Makoto on the other hand can pretty much run all over the screen throwing out random pokes into hayate and ex karakusas just hoping for the best. Trust me, shes pretty retarded, but in a good way. Shes not going to be good as her 3s counter part but she will be a lot of fun to play.

 

[ShinAmano]

According to the giant bomb livestream, ultras are random as well

Hmm...what about color/outfit/taunt?

 

[bistromathics]

Sagat is hard to use

lol

 

[Arde5643]

Yeah. I saw that vid too. Looks like the df/mk is more safe to block after. Though there's a lot of things I want to try with Vega. But yeah, U1 has the hit on start up so glad to see it for myself.

Is his KKK also safer now? I saw him do it and then able to block jabs right away.

KKK is the shorter one right?

 

[sixteen-bit]

Hmm...what about color/outfit/taunt?

default iirc

bear in mind the preview build they had only had 2 colors and 1 taunt per character, so it could have been coincidental. they only went random once

 

[LowParry]

Is his KKK also safer now? I saw him do it and then able to block jabs right away.

KKK is the shorter one right?

Yes. It looks faster and more safe. I'll probably be playing around with that today online. Got a few idea's I want to try out.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

Interesting footage from FADC/Empire.

It's clear that Justin isn't that experienced with the new characters and was relying on his skill to sort of carry him. I'm not sure if it was because the player was inexperienced but he was caught in a weird Kunai dagger trap with Ibuki.

I can't believe the game is gold...and they haven't released it. They should move the release up two weeks. It's not even going to make a real blip on the NPD.

And Blanka is cool. He's all about tricks, mixups. Definitely a change of pace from the Ryukentigers. With the new characters, there's a lil bit of something for everyone's playing style.

Yes because at the 30th/31st of every month people just instantly stop buying games that came out that month..

Who cares if it doesnt make a blip on NPD due to a late release in the month? :lol


Also EX Oil Up being invulnerable to Fireballs is lol.

lol

Hey I agree with Haunts... Sagat is hard to use correctly.. Yea lotsa newbs use him but thats because his dmg is so good. But to do stuff like Kara's consistently to maximize him is really tough. I can't use him worth shit =[

But I do think that saying "This character stands no chance in tournament play" and making those types of accusations this early in the game (Not even in anyones hands) is laughable.. I mean.. Viper and Gen were lol until people really got to play around with them..

 

[bistromathics]

default iirc

bear in mind the preview build they had only had 2 colors and 1 taunt per character, so it could have been coincidental. they only went random once

hmm so has ssf4 really not gone gold yet? I thought all the comments about "not final version" on internet videos were just people getting their hopes up about things still changing.

 

[haunts]

Watching these FADC builds, man if they beefed up Makoto she will be pretty good. Karakusa after hayate, kara-karakusa. she really needs this stuff.

 

[ShinAmano]

default iirc

bear in mind the preview build they had only had 2 colors and 1 taunt per character, so it could have been coincidental. they only went random once

It would be nice if you were able to choose all the options once the character is selected...it would be ok if the cpu went random for all attributes...it would be kind of lame if they left it as just character and ultra are selected and everything else is default.

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Dartastic]

I would love it if the release was pushed up slightly, especially since the game is gold. It's not like they have much competition this month, and sales will still be posted for the 2010 fiscal year. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I WANTS IT NOW

 

[the_log_ride]

Interesting Dudley video. Beasty indeed...

We're now @ 29 Days until SSF4 is released, and 6 days until they make whatever announcment @ the JPN Nati'l Tourney...

 

[sixteen-bit]

hmm so has ssf4 really not gone gold yet? I thought all the comments about "not final version" on internet videos were just people getting their hopes up about things still changing.

if the game has gone gold expect me to visit 7-11 every day in hopes of them breaking the street date

shame about them load times though

Despite being the 360 version the enormous load times issue is the only reason I think Giant Bomb didn't have the final version.

 

[haunts]

Has Super sf4 really gone gold?

 

[cHaotix8]

God Blanka is amazing. <3 that guy.

Are they continuing his story in Super (He meets his mom) or are they going to go with a different story?

This post should be grounds for a banning. Blanka can go die.

 

[LeMaximilian]

Has Super sf4 really gone gold?

I'd assume it would've had to. A month before release n' all. Although, I haven't heard of journalism sites getting the real final review build of the game yet. It's still CES/February builds floating around.

 

[haunts]

I'd assume it would've had to. A month before release n' all. Although, I haven't heard of journalism sites getting the real final review build of the game yet. It's still CES/February builds floating around.

Yeah, even a lot of stuff in this PAX build is different from GDC. Ryu can c.mk, fadc into ultra 2, kara-karakusas with makoto.. WOOOOW... im glad they are putting more buff stuff in there.. ^_____^

 

[hitsugi]

I can't believe the game is gold...and they haven't released it. They should move the release up two weeks. It's not even going to make a real blip on the NPD.

they have to let a few people feel like they have "exclusive" rights to play it a month before everyone else everyone keeps saying final build this, that, etc.. but no one really knows for sure.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

lol

I wish this was lol-worthy.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Yeah, even a lot of stuff in this PAX build is different from GDC. Ryu can c.mk, fadc into ultra 2, kara-karakusas with makoto.. WOOOOW... im glad they are putting more buff stuff in there.. ^_____^

uh wow

gonna see a lot of molar grinding i guess

 

[steadfast]

OK, I haven't played a Street Fighter game since SF2 CE in the arcades back in my high school days.

I passed up on SFIV without a second thought because I figured it had gotten too far out of hand for my old-ass brain to handle.

So over the weekend I watched the entire 90 minute GiantBomb "live" stream and was absolutely transfixed -- I didn't even put up a fight; I immediately ordered a TE stick, SFIV, and preordered SSFIV

I'm very excited and I hope there are other newb types online that aren't all super serious about it.

 

[haunts]

uh wow

gonna see a lot of molar grinding i guess

thats just what i heard, no idea if its true. but would be cool if true.. i havent seen a video of kara-kara either...but it looks like jwong was able to connect a karakusa after a hayate. that in itself is HUUUGE.

 

[marathonfool]

Don't mind people playing Dudley online.

Much better than Ken, Ryu, or Sagat. The ones that annoy me the most are the ones that jump back and spam fireball. It's tedious to chase after them every match.

With Dudley, he actually needs to be offensive and can't rely on projectiles.

 

[cHaotix8]

Flowchart Dudley's won't be a problem, kinda like flowchart Sagats. I don't even know why people cry about him.

 

[bistromathics]

I'm very excited and I hope there are other newb types online that aren't all super serious about it.

for the first week or so, probably. Then again, anybody still playing after a few weeks isn't really so casual anymore.

 

[Ronabo]

Anyone know if they changed the stun on Gief's neutral jump headbutt?

 

[haunts]

Don't mind people playing Dudley online.

Much better than Ken, Ryu, or Sagat. The ones that annoy me the most are the ones that jump back and spam fireball. It's tedious to chase after them every match.

With Dudley, he actually needs to be offensive and can't rely on projectiles.

be careful what you wish for.

 

[biosnake20]

Wait, ryu can do what now?

 

[ShinAmano]

OK, I haven't played a Street Fighter game since SF2 CE in the arcades back in my high school days.

I passed up on SFIV without a second thought because I figured it had gotten too far out of hand for my old-ass brain to handle.

So over the weekend I watched the entire 90 minute GiantBomb "live" stream and was absolutely transfixed -- I didn't even put up a fight; I immediately ordered a TE stick, SFIV, and preordered SSFIV

I'm very excited and I hope there are other newb types online that aren't all super serious about it.

Don't worry, my brother is an old school SF player and he never got into any of the Alpha or 3 series and he picked up SF4 and can handle pretty well with the original cast.

 

[bistromathics]

Wait, ryu can do what now?

why is c.mk->FADC->U2 a big deal? surely he can <some other normal> XX <some special> -> FADC -> U2 anyways...does scaling from 1 or 2 more moves mess up the damage that badly?

 

[dralla]

what's up with roses second ultra? it looks really bad, is there something im missing?

 

[the_log_ride]

Yeah, even a lot of stuff in this PAX build is different from GDC. Ryu can c.mk, fadc into ultra 2, kara-karakusas with makoto.. WOOOOW... im glad they are putting more buff stuff in there.. ^_____^

Wow @ both of these...

 

[the_log_ride]

OK, I haven't played a Street Fighter game since SF2 CE in the arcades back in my high school days.

I passed up on SFIV without a second thought because I figured it had gotten too far out of hand for my old-ass brain to handle.

So over the weekend I watched the entire 90 minute GiantBomb "live" stream and was absolutely transfixed -- I didn't even put up a fight; I immediately ordered a TE stick, SFIV, and preordered SSFIV

I'm very excited and I hope there are other newb types online that aren't all super serious about it.

Welcome back to the fold... You'll be all oiled up and ready to go in no time.

 

[BotoxAgent]

it's crazy that dudley can do two uppercuts with out FADC :-/

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

OK, I haven't played a Street Fighter game since SF2 CE in the arcades back in my high school days.

I passed up on SFIV without a second thought because I figured it had gotten too far out of hand for my old-ass brain to handle.

So over the weekend I watched the entire 90 minute GiantBomb "live" stream and was absolutely transfixed -- I didn't even put up a fight; I immediately ordered a TE stick, SFIV, and preordered SSFIV

I'm very excited and I hope there are other newb types online that aren't all super serious about it.

 

[sixteen-bit]

why is c.mk->FADC->U2 a big deal? surely he can <some other normal> XX <some special> -> FADC -> U2 anyways...does scaling from 1 or 2 more moves mess up the damage that badly?

U2 is metsu shoryu, so it's a lot of damage with not a lot of scaling
unless that ultra setup is for the crappy multi hit version

 

[LeMaximilian]

U2 is metsu shoryu, so it's a lot of damage with not a lot of scaling
unless that ultra setup is for the crappy multi hit version

It's kinda like doing a jump in HK into Ultra. All your using is the hitstun from cr. mk. All things considered, it should be full animation...but who knows until we see it. It's not exactly a hit confirmable ultra, unless you cal cr. lk cr. lp cr. mk FADC U2.

 

[haunts]

it's crazy that dudley can do two uppercuts with out FADC :-/

yeah dude, i saw that the other day i was like wtf.

 

[Leunam]

Anyone know if they changed the stun on Gief's neutral jump headbutt?

Of all the things to change on Gief, I don't think that would be necessary.

 

[sixteen-bit]

yeah dude, i saw that the other day i was like wtf.

and now cammy's dp fadc dp does 200 damage
smh

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

it's crazy that dudley can do two uppercuts with out FADC :-/

is'nt it lp version to fp version, like Ken and em?

 

[Arde5643]

it's crazy that dudley can do two uppercuts with out FADC :-/

The damage is quite bullshit on those as well.

smh @ Capcom, nerf Cammy's DP but keep the bullshit on Dudley's? WTF?