The Oily, Gentlemanly Super Spin Fighter 4 Reveal Thread of Kunoichis and Karatekas

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Masamuna said:
So I go outside to smoke and lo and behold my TE Stick I ordered Thursday from Fry's arrived. I so was not expecting it this soon. I have a feeling Fry's (along with Amazon) will be my favorite online merchant XD

The problem is that I did not know I was getting a Round 2 edition. Everyone else around here has either the first run or the marvel stick, and because this one is sexy as all hell I'm less inclined to make my own custom art (more due to laziness I guess). I might do something eventually, but for now I may just put a sticker on the bottom or write my tag name for some minor proof of identity.

My proof of identity for my TE stick is my fist. Anyone fucks with my stick is getting their teeth shoved down their throat, while I'm wearing my SF4 snuggie.
 

Shito

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By the way, weren't we supposed to get SF4 items on the 360 avatars marketplace last month?
What happened to that?
I hate this overpriced piece of milking with a passion, but I could very well see myself cave in for Makoto's scarf.
 

Ronabo

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Yeah, I broke down and bought a Cincy Reds baseball cap. I'd probably buy something Street Fighter if it was cool. Maybe Ryu's head band or Dan's gi.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Wait, if shoryukens are nerfed across the board then does that mean that sakura's shouken is nerfed too/ Not exactly the same move, but i mean really that move is pretty crucial to Sakura being any good.
 

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
MrBeggar said:
well yeah, its an entirely new story. :\

enzo_gt said:
Wait, if shoryukens are nerfed across the board then does that mean that sakura's shouken is nerfed too/ Not exactly the same move, but i mean really that move is pretty crucial to Sakura being any good.
in the sense that it does less damage, less stun and knocks down versus her other safe options?
 

Zapages

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Pandaman said:
the reward for buying SF4 is that you've had a full year to play SF4.

Its still a rip off man. Capcom is cheap as anything for charging us for costumes which are literally just codes on the disk that have to be unlocked. I mean seriously WTF?! I paid about 90 dollars for CE version of SF IV and now they expect us to pay 40 dollar for just a roster update with a few backgrounds and fixes...Then all we get is color 11 to be unlocked for being a loyal customer.

Sorry for the rant, but seriously Capcom with SF and DLC is one area where Capcom has failed IMHO.

I will still buy SSFIV, but seriously this is like losing against flowchart Ken. >_<
 

Caj814

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h3ro said:
How can anyone watch that and not be sad that Indestructible is gone?


:/ We're not gonna feel it coming over us anymore.

But we've been waiting for this moment all our lives. . .IT'S OUR DESTINY!
 

Leunam

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Zapages said:
Then all we get is color 11 to be unlocked for being a loyal customer.

Jesus fuck, they didn't even have to give you anything to begin with. Not only are they adding a shitload of content, they are doing it for a discounted price. You feel like you need a better reward for being a loyal customer? Well guess what, your reward is you can keep playing in SSF4 with nifty new characters and stages for $40. I honestly wouldn't give a shit if we didn't get anything at all because getting this much new stuff for $40 is a fucking steal when most other companies probably would have just as easily charged $60.
 

h3ro

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Zapages said:
Its still a rip off man. Capcom is cheap as anything for charging us for costumes which are literally just codes on the disk that have to be unlocked. I mean seriously WTF?! I paid about 90 dollars for CE version of SF IV and now they expect us to pay 40 dollar for just a roster update with a few backgrounds and fixes...Then all we get is color 11 to be unlocked for being a loyal customer.

Sorry for the rant, but seriously Capcom with SF and DLC is one area where Capcom has failed IMHO.

I will still buy SSFIV, but seriously this is like losing against flowchart Ken. >_<

I disagree completely. They've added 10 characters and added moves to every character, basically changing the game completely. It's not like you can't use the DLC from the first game, that carries over. Sure download keys to unlock content already on disc sucks, but its not critical to gameplay at all, like maps/modes that you find being locked away in shooters lately.

Also, the game is $40! I can't believe how many people have been dismissing that price. The game is a fantastic package.

Props to both Capcom and Aksys for keeping these lower prices for the new versions of SF and BB being released this year.
 

Masamuna

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black_vegeta said:
My proof of identity for my TE stick is my fist. Anyone fucks with my stick is getting their teeth shoved down their throat, while I'm wearing my SF4 snuggie.

Yeah, i'm not too worried about that. Playing in the ATL area you'd be surprised at how close nit the community is when it comes to this stuff. Stuff can still get yanked, but the chances of you getting away with it are extremely low.
 

Fersis

It is illegal to Tag Fish in Tag Fishing Sanctuaries by law 38.36 of the GAF Wildlife Act
Im gonna guess that every FIFA,Madden,MLB threads are full of: 'Whats my reward for buying the last year edition?' (Every year at full price of course)

SSFIV has 10 new characters and new game modes for 40 bucks. Thats fine to me.
 

h3ro

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Fersis said:
Im gonna guess that every FIFA,Madden,MLB threads are full of: 'Whats my reward for buying the last year edition?' (Every year at full price of course)

SSFIV has 10 new characters and new game modes for 40 bucks. Thats fine to me.

:brohug:
 

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
Zapages said:
Its still a rip off man. Capcom is cheap as anything for charging us for costumes which are literally just codes on the disk that have to be unlocked. I mean seriously WTF?!
the alternative would be forcing a patch including all the dlc information, otherwise you wouldn't see the opponenets alt if you didnt have the pack. its better to put it on disc than to put it on the HDD.
I paid about 90 dollars for CE version of SF IV and now they expect us to pay 40 dollar for just a roster update with a few backgrounds and fixes...Then all we get is color 11 to be unlocked for being a loyal customer.
No, you get a roster update and new backgrounds for being a loyal customer. because there are many loyal customers like you, street fighter games will continue to be made for you to enjoy.
Sorry for the rant, but seriously Capcom with SF and DLC is one area where Capcom has failed IMHO.

I will still buy SSFIV, but seriously this is like losing against flowchart Ken. >_<
personally, i disagree. Capcom wanted an extra revenue stream to go with their games, the alt system is painless, lax and does not effect game play in the slightest. I'm happy about it, because alts would most likely not have existed if there was not a desire for a dlc revenue stream.
 

LowParry

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gutter_trash said:
I am happy that they are charging for costumes because I don't want to see you when I play online

Imagine if they were Free? Chaos

:lol

Seriously. $40 for the game. Lots of content. And people bitch about not getting things for free? Whoooooooooooosh!
 
gutter_trash said:
I am happy that they are charging for costumes because I don't want to see you when I play online

Imagine if they were Free? Chaos
Agreed, I like being unique. Thank God for the cheap bastards not willing to lay down some scrilla for costumes.
 

KuroNeeko

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The wall issue, the one were on one side you can cross them up and the other side it won't will not get fixed. Seth explained that issue was too closely related to the game's engine so fixing it may be a nightmare to do and they don't want to tamper with it.

Seth and the devs know about the newly discovered unblockables. How and why is still unknown and they're still trying to figure out the case on why it happens.

Has this actually been confirmed? I'd be very surprised if they left something like that in, especially the wall problem. In a fighting game, this would be huge - even to the point where a person who starts on the side of the cross-uppable wall would be at a disadvantage.

Both of these problems seem like A-class bugs - they don't freeze the game or anything but they're pretty f@cking big. Just goes to show how pressed for time and money they were when making this game. I really hope they go back and patch it but I doubt they will unless enough people make a stink about it. I guess it's to be expected when you make this many changes to the system within such a short period of time.
 

h3ro

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gutter_trash said:
I am happy that they are charging for costumes because I don't want to see you when I play online

Imagine if they were Free? Chaos

But that would have meant more Dudley Mercury... :/
 
These nerfs don't bug me as much but the wall bug where you can cross up only on one side of the screen is stupid. Alpha 3 had a similar problem with the wall and some combos only working on one side of the screen. I do not like this at all. In Alpha 3 would do coin flips at times to determine which side you played on since the advantage was that big especially for Sakura due to her infinite combo.
 

Raging Spaniard

If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Give people a hand and they take the arm, thats why we cant have nice things later.

10 new characters, thats a whole new game for 40 bucks. Then add everything from SF IV FOR FREE, basically.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
KuroNeeko said:
Has this actually been confirmed? I'd be very surprised if they left something like that in, especially the wall problem. In a fighting game, this would be huge - even to the point where a person who starts on the side of the cross-uppable wall would be at a disadvantage.

Both of these problems seem like A-class bugs - they don't freeze the game or anything but they're pretty f@cking big. Just goes to show how pressed for time and money they were when making this game. I really hope they go back and patch it but I doubt they will unless enough people make a stink about it. I guess it's to be expected when you make this many changes to the system within such a short period of time.

Guy said he talked directly to Seth about it. <shrugs>

Also, the reason why it won't be fixed is in the quote. It's in the engine and they really don't want to fuck with things too deep in there anymore. People will buy it anyway and SSF4 is a cash in iteration (as much as people don't want to think it is) so why worry about it. I would honestly be surprised if we even see one balance patch for SSF4 in its lifetime after launch (barring a day one patch for something).
 

enzo_gt

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Pandaman said:
in the sense that it does less damage, less stun and knocks down versus her other safe options?
Pretty much, but EX Shouken is a pretty safe move that does a hell of a lot of damage, and is bread and butter IMO, considering both her super (and ultra) are pretty useless.
 
Kintaro said:
SSF4 is a cash in iteration (as much as people don't want to think it is)

The general consensus here is that it's a cash-in operation in which enough content and fixes were added to make it worth the (reasonable) price. Don't go around making us look like a bunch of deluded fools. :/
 
Kintaro said:
Also, the reason why it won't be fixed is in the quote. It's in the engine and they really don't want to fuck with things too deep in there anymore. People will buy it anyway and SSF4 is a cash in iteration (as much as people don't want to think it is) so why worry about it. I would honestly be surprised if we even see one balance patch for SSF4 in its lifetime after launch (barring a day one patch for something).

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Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
There's more new content, more changes, more fixes, in SSF4 than in any update Capcom has ever done to any of their games (including, in some cases, FULL SEQUELS). There's more than in almost any update any fighting game series has received on a console.

In terms of value, this is the most respectable and fair to the customer upgrade a fighter has ever received of which I am aware.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Holy Order Sol said:
The general consensus here is that it's a cash-in operation in which enough content and fixes were added to make it worth the (reasonable) price. Don't go around making us look like a bunch of deluded fools. :/

Was a general statement. No need to take offense if you don't fall into it. I've seen it around the web.
 

KuroNeeko

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Kintaro said:
Also, the reason why it won't be fixed is in the quote. It's in the engine and they really don't want to fuck with things too deep in there anymore. .

Sure, I can understand why they don't want to touch it. It would mean taking more time to debug and pay programmers to mess around with the code - meaning more production costs. If it was something they discovered after the game was sent out or received gold approval, then they should be working on a patch. No one appreciates shoddy programming and the idea that "people are just going to buy it anyway" won't hold up if they don't hold to a certain standard...

Unless this kind of bug really isn't a big deal. Seems like a big deal to me, though.
 

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
enzo_gt said:
Pretty much, but EX Shouken is a pretty safe move that does a hell of a lot of damage, and is bread and butter IMO, considering both her super (and ultra) are pretty useless.
but any setup for ex shouken is a setup for ex shunpakyu, so unless you need an invincible reversal, you should never use shouken.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
KuroNeeko said:
Sure, I can understand why they don't want to touch it. It would mean taking more time to debug and pay programmers to mess around with the code - meaning more production costs. If it was something they discovered after the game was sent out or received gold approval, then they should be working on a patch. No one appreciates shoddy programming and they idea of "people are just going to buy it anyway" won't hold up if they don't hold to a certain standard...

Unless this kind of bug really isn't a big deal. Seems like a big deal to me, though.

<shrugs> Maybe after the sales of DLC costumes, they'll think about it. :lol What had me scratching my head is the claim that they don't know why or how the unblockable Ultras work at times.
 

hitsugi

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KuroNeeko said:
Has this actually been confirmed? I'd be very surprised if they left something like that in, especially the wall problem. In a fighting game, this would be huge - even to the point where a person who starts on the side of the cross-uppable wall would be at a disadvantage..

CVS2 had a worse deal.. 2p could do corner cross ups that 1p couldn't do.. at all. This is one reason why switching sides actually mattered in that game.
 

hitsugi

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yes it was in console releases.. along with the infamous roll cancel <3

(xbox and GC "EO" versions of the game do not count because they are not really cvs2)
 

Zapages

Member
Leunam said:
Jesus fuck, they didn't even have to give you anything to begin with. Not only are they adding a shitload of content, they are doing it for a discounted price. You feel like you need a better reward for being a loyal customer? Well guess what, your reward is you can keep playing in SSF4 with nifty new characters and stages for $40. I honestly wouldn't give a shit if we didn't get anything at all because getting this much new stuff for $40 is a fucking steal when most other companies probably would have just as easily charged $60.

h3ro said:
I disagree completely. They've added 10 characters and added moves to every character, basically changing the game completely. It's not like you can't use the DLC from the first game, that carries over. Sure download keys to unlock content already on disc sucks, but its not critical to gameplay at all, like maps/modes that you find being locked away in shooters lately.

Also, the game is $40! I can't believe how many people have been dismissing that price. The game is a fantastic package.

Props to both Capcom and Aksys for keeping these lower prices for the new versions of SF and BB being released this year.


Dude, the thing is that Capcom and Ono made a big deal about the extra that loyal fans will get by keeping SF4 will be real special.

That's what I am complaining about.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Pandaman said:
but any setup for ex shouken is a setup for ex shunpakyu, so unless you need an invincible reversal, you should never use shouken.
I should try to switch it up, problem is a lot of the hitboxes for EX Shunpakyu don't end up lining up properly for where my opponent is, and not all the hits get through. Regardless, I will try it out. Thanks for the tip.
 
Zapages said:
Dude, the thing is that Capcom and Ono made a big deal about the extra that loyal fans will get by keeping SF4 will be real special.

That's what I am complaining about.

I believe any quote from Ono says that 'And maybe there will be something for people who keep the game'. Nothing like HOLY CRAP GUISE ITS AN AWESUM EXTRA. I think you've just blown it out of proportion.
 

Ysiadmihi

Banned
Pandaman said:
what is this wallbug?

You can crossup on the right side when someone is corner but not on the left side.

I'm not sure if it applies to everything, but I know you can crossup with Cannon Strike on the right but on the left Cammy gets pushed back to the right side of the opponent.
 
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