Its frightening how similar this is to Ryse. The only major difference is that Ryse was a launch game so there was plenty of other things going on to split attention. The wirst thing to haopen to The Order is that Bloodborne, Witcher, and Batman were all delayed from Feb.
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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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Its frightening how similar this is to Ryse. The only major difference is that Ryse was a launch game so there was plenty of other things going on to split attention. The wirst thing to haopen to The Order is that Bloodborne, Witcher, and Batman were all delayed from Feb.
BossLackey
Gold Member
Yeah, I really don't get it either. QTEs are a fucking cop out. It screams "we couldn't make gameplay fit here, so fuck it".
But you're absolutely right. I've never seen anyone praise QTEs, they're only a negative.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Are you confused by the score or the quote because I don't see anything odd about the quote.
ProvenDeadly
Member
There are a lot of single player only games that receive critical claim. If the single player sucks, and there's no MP, well it's harder to give a good score if your only component is sub par.
TrojanBlade
Member
Forget everything else...this is just plain trolling
"It is occasionally nice to look at"
WTF?
The best looking console game ever and they say this shit? I can understand reviewers shitting on the game length, it being cinematic, QTEs etc... but this is just illogical. F off Kotaku.
cleveridea
Member
Dat zoom in on michael's face
Thats me.
And the bloodborne lol
Thats me.
And the bloodborne lol
Freezasaurus
Member
Even if it is as short and lacking in replay value as some reviews claim, I'm still looking forward very much to playing it. Worst-case, I finish it and trade it in for half-value toward one of the other games I want in the coming weeks/months.
PerezDeCorcho
Member
Sarcasm.
"Cinematic masterpiece" doesn't seem a bit strange, to you?
Am I buying a ticket from my local theatre or picking the game up at Gamestop, I'm confused.
I'm *not* saying they can't recover, but Insomniac circa 2013 was in a much stronger position than RAD (a developer releasing its first-ever original IP and first-ever non-port console project) today.
I like QTEs when they're:
- spectacular in a fashion that normal gameplay does not allow (think God of War)
- Easily readable (again, God of War, not Dying Light)
- made to allow you to fail a bit
If they could easily be replaced by gameplay, they suck.
luknotluck
Member
I was hoping that the Order would be tons better. It just seems that most people had issues with the QTEs and the cinematic experience more than anything. I hope Ready at Dawn gets another chance because they are very good developers taking from their God of War PSP days.
I just restated his point. And no I do not think that a forced mp is good for a game. All I am saying is what worked 8 years ago will not necessarily work in this day and age and comparisons made this way are a bit mood.
Abilidebob
Member
The quote from Gamingtrend
This seriously got me baffled.
It looks good, yeah.
But not THAT good. No way close.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
No reason to be concerned here; it's a game of Da/DeSoul heritage and comes from the same person who originally developed those games. It will do very well.
Unless it doesn't; in which case that may be grounds for seeing if there are alternative agendas and biases at work, since even DS2 did very well in reviews and this looks to be an improvement on that with merging of Castlevania/old DMC games.
And everyone likes those games. Would be more than suspect a legit spiritual follow-up that previewed very well suddenly get low scores, unless there is shadiness going on behind-the-scenes...
Yes that is ridiculous. Not every reviewer is legitimate. I would not be surprised if companies began blacklisting certain reviewers, and sites like MC start banning them too.
You can only troll but so much.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
fluffydelusions
Member
Well it made it to the front of reddit but not in a good way...
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2wfw6n/the_real_title_of_play_stations_newest_hit/
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2wfw6n/the_real_title_of_play_stations_newest_hit/
Apologies...i went for snark over actual discussion
And your counter-argument is ... ?
Dragonborn
Member
The amount of interest this game has attracted from people who were likely never going to buy it is truly incredible. I don't think we'll see anything like this for a long while. Wonder what game will get the next "the Order" treatment.
I'm fine, thank you.
Definitely, but it was definitely picked apart by many of GAF members. Folks around here do typically end up carrying different opinions than what can be found on something like Metacritic. It can be difficult for me to separate the GAF mentality from what people outside of this bubble think. Until the Metacritic link was posted, I honestly thought the game had a much poorer reception.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
certain devs really want to be in movies and not in games. By adding qte they feel like they 're making a cutscene interactive thus justifying more of them.
Also it looks great in commercials and trailers.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
It would be a little uglier but the gameplay could have worked.
Constantine81
Banned
With some exceptions, you can choose to either be super aggressive, and plug enemies with bullets, or sneak by them. There's also your choice of which weapons to upgrade, or use, and how to take out enemies should you choose to use force. These things are not linear. The story itself takes a linear path from start to finish, but how you play out the scenes is up to you. One scene in particular comes to mind. There are spotlights and if you stay in the dark there's no major confrontation. On the flip side, if you are spotted, or make a lot of noise; a big confrontation takes place with almost endless enemies coming at you.
Abilidebob
Member
You mean that I need to present a counter-argument to the "Literally no game has ever looked this good" statement?
Seriously? Don't you find what the reviewer said at least a little silly?
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
You know you can change how many post show per page, right? your quote is on page 58 for me(this should show on 59).
schaft0620
Member
If this game takes me 10-12 hours to beat on normal I am going to hold every reviewer who said the game was 5-7 hours accountable for a rush-job attempt at a review.
meanspartan
Member
I agree with the content of their review, but ya I also saw this as an extra kick to RAD's stomach when they were already down. Even the harshest critics acknowledge this game is beautiful, hell, some of its biggest detractors from day 1 wrote it off as nothing more than pretty graphics.
So for Kotaku to try and take that one major achievement away from RAD, kinda lame I agree.
plasmawave
Banned
huh?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
The guy I was quoting I think was taking issue with the visuals. I agree with the "Cinematic Masterpiece" insanity.
Uh no. It is the best looking game right now. It has a lot of things against it but visuals isn't one of the.
Aaand im off to experience it myself. Its cool they gave me a comb with the game so i can scratch my head with it, if it turns out to be utter shit.
To be honest, the gaming sites i frequently visit outside of gaf where positive about the game. The last 3 games i bought have been trashed in the media (and gaf) beyond belief, and i have enjoyed those very much.. (one with an alien, some game about cars in a corridor and a grindfest on 5 planets.)
This industry is going to hell with its these journalist and armies of fanboys hating on games in general.
Where can I get that comb?
You're letting them get under your skin. Consider that the only way to get more clicks amidst a lot of negative reviews is to stand out; IGN just did it as well.
Well the game could be a technical mess in places akin to DS1.
They didn't soak in enough atmosphere.
Well, I think it's because a lot of great games, commercially and critically, had QTEs in them. All the God of War games? Jammed with them. Resident Evil 4? Knife-fighting cutscenes were never the same again. I'm not sure how much people would consider Indigo Prophecy/Heavy Rain successes, but they're QTEs, start to finish. They prove an effective way of making scripted sequences interactive, and to an extent, they work. Though they've become stale now, and a lot of other games have found other ways of incorporating interactivity into story segments.
I understand many peoples' frustrations with them, though the don't bother me nearly as much as picking up audio diaries or seeing some exposition written on a wall in blood. They were great in BioShock, but I've seen that way too much in the last eight years.
The nonsense being put out there by reviewers on twitter is just sad, the amount of glee being displayed by supposed professionals with fanboy-esque posts is unbelievable.
I wonder if we will see it replicated? I can't remember seeing it quite this much for other titles that failed to make the grade.
Hopefully RaD get a chance to do a sequel, the hard work has been done in regards to the engine (that is far too good to waste) so the focus next time would be on the rest.
I wonder if we will see it replicated? I can't remember seeing it quite this much for other titles that failed to make the grade.
Hopefully RaD get a chance to do a sequel, the hard work has been done in regards to the engine (that is far too good to waste) so the focus next time would be on the rest.
Links_fantasy
Junior Member
I hope Ready at Dawn doesn't close down if this flops even though I have no interest in the game. They were one of the top PSP developers during its lifecycle, maybe they should focus on smaller download PS4 games with more modest budgets.
I'm good. I've always been highly skeptical of the game, but caught a whiff of excitement for a linear shooter at the last moment. Even if it sucks, I can Platinum it quickly and trade it in for a decent amount back. I find it difficult to believe I'll come out of this disappointed, but we'll see.
Yeah I also cannot understand that point. They added a lot of grey to the brown and even black (bars).
But in all honesty it looks kinda great.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
The game is visually stunning. If there's one thing everyone has agreed about regarding it in a good light, it's that.
"Occasionally nice to look at"...what does that mean exactly? That there are technical performance issues? That you like the art style one minute but hate it the next? DF claims it's 100% rock-solid and anyone who takes the latter probably has no real taste in quality art if they can't hold a preference for more than minutes at a time.
Quantum Break?
I mean... it's possible for them to screw up Bloodborne by releasing a broken product. You cannot just have blind faith in the pedigree of studios anymore.
How many people thought HaloMCC would get such a bad reception? Prior to release, it looked amazing (and in many ways it still is amazing, but you catch my drift).
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Bloodborne will be amazing.
Abilidebob
Member
Never said the visuals were something "against" it.
Just that saying that literally no other game ever has looked this good is just being silly.
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