What ? Why ?
You don't apologize for making a mediocre/bad game. If anything, you can get motivated to make a better game next time, but they don't have to apologize to make the thing they wanted to make, however flawed it can be
The Order 1886 Review Thread
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What ? Why ?
You don't apologize for making a mediocre/bad game. If anything, you can get motivated to make a better game next time, but they don't have to apologize to make the thing they wanted to make, however flawed it can be
jim2point0
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Taking control away from the player seems to be a common complaint. This is such a huge no-no for me as well.
bigdaddygamebot
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Nothing to apologize for. I am confident they were aware of the reaction they were going to get.
probably because he said he doesn't feel like buying a PS4 for one game (being Bloodborne). if The Order had surprised him that would make two games and maybe that would have been enough for him to purchase one.
I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at here...
For what? Even the harshest reviews say the game is immaculate from a technical / QA standpoint.
Apologies are for nonfunctional titles, not titles with low review scores.
For what? The game isn't broken.
Fully expecting someone on the team to make some shitty remarks about how reviewers or "whiners on the internet" unfairly judged them and that people "just didn't 'get' what they were trying to do."
-MD-
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Maybe he had a sliver of hope this game would turn out well in the back of his mind and would make a PS4 purchase easier to justify.
Now the only thing he has to justify the purchase is Bloodborne, a single game. That's my takeaway from it.
If anyone needs to apologize it's Yoshida.
Why the hell would he green-light this game, given how outdated it is in everything but graphics.
It blows my mind that RAD thought this game design would sit well with customers in a 2015 AAA game.
The Shogun
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The thing that makes Sunhi's GIF's so legendary is how they perfectly blend the source material to what is happening.
I mean the imagination that user has to have is unreal. They always find the absolute perfect clip to put with the topic. Its pretty amazing in all honesty.
Maybe because he was hoping this game would be great and then he'd have two games to justify the cost of the PS4.
Because it makes sense to compare what looked like a shallow "cinematic" Uncharted wannabe shitty generic shooter which is all about the graphics to a game from a studio whose three last fantastic games prioritize gameplay over anything else. The only thing they have in common is a somehow similar setting.
Jesus Christ... I obviously haven't been around long enough because I'm pretty surprised at the celebration surrounding this game's disappointing reviews. Holy shit, you people are ruthless.
Between this fuckery and all the stories about the way people who work in the industry are treated, I'm really glad I gave up my childhood dream of making games a long time ago.
Between this fuckery and all the stories about the way people who work in the industry are treated, I'm really glad I gave up my childhood dream of making games a long time ago.
We all fell for it atleast once. Don 't feel bad. Can't you return it unopened?
CambriaRising
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I'm not sure you know what green lighting is?
The plot thickens.
Why do you care about a random person's entertainment purchase choices ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV-u5tvQC34
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TheExecutive
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Oh man... I look at that gif when I am down and it boosts me up every time
Amentallica
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1) I didn't know how much the budget was.
2) These criticisms would be nullified if the game instead was critically successful and went on to sell millions.
So then what are we arguing?
ArkkAngel007
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I don't really follow film critic media that closely, maybe because there's generally more options available to me in how to see a film and less cost of entry. More interested in the production elements, if anything.
I don't think that would sit well with me either though. Sure, lambast whatever [insert medium] falls terribly short, but probably not in the manner Rosenburg kicked off. Doesn't matter if it's a film like Die Hard or one like 50 Shades of Grey.
Again, a lot of people on GAF have issues with folks like Gies (and certain developers) having similar behavior. Not sure why suddenly it's all well and good.
Edit: For the record, I do agree with the average at this point and much of the dialogue within the reviews themselves. Has nothing to do with that.
SimpleCRIPPLE
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Gamefly just shipped me The Order. Looks like i'll get to check out this gen's biggest 5 out of 10 this weekend.
Can't wait to be simultaneously wowed and underwhelmed.
Can't wait to be simultaneously wowed and underwhelmed.
Uno Venova
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So, it sounds like you've played the game? How was it?
Right now, FromSoftware is in the same place Pixar was a few years ago (after releasing Wall-E, Up, and Toy Story 3) where I'll play anything they make until they convince me that they're slipping.
So I have preordered it.
Relaxed Muscle
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Bloodborne looks fenomenal, is being made by a team who proved themselves with some of the best games in the last gen and had a very positive alpha test.
Yeah, the comparisson is moot.
Always-honest
Banned
Good. Let them wait till after the first days of release.
Are you referencing this?
That was in June 2013. They have had a few delays, no? There is no way on this earth they are still at 15 million USD in dev costs.
I don't understand this complaint. I never feel that the game is taking controls away from me. WTF is this ? This means nothing at all.
Chezzymann
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This is why I love GAF. There really isnt another place that has all this drama and narrative in their Review threads or NPD threads. Or the hilarious gifs. Heck, most sites don't even do NPD threads or care about tracking them outside of press releases.
Broadbandito
Member
It's amazing how everyone says 'What a shit game" without even playing it. I know this is gaf and whatnot but holy shit. I might need to take a leave of absence from gaming forums
Dear god.
Absolutely. The writing has been on the wall for this one for weeks and weeks now. It's a shame because it looked like it had so much promise when it was first revealed, but hopefully they learn from their mistakes and come out swinging on their next game. I'll still pick this one up when it hits the bargain bins
Think people are happy that a game that prioritizes graphics over gameplay is a bomb.
This game pushes graphics and it seems to suck in the gameplay department.
Another problem is selling customers a game with such little actual gameplay for $60.
isnt that the point of reviews? to save you from spending money on bad games? I can't buy every game possible that might be good so we depend on reviews. It is not a perfect system because it is still opinions at the end of the day but I will take this over spending a shit ton of money to gave devs the benefit of the doubt. I just don't have the cash for that.
Chubzdoomer
Banned
You mean movies?
Flachmatuch
Member
I just...seriously. The original argument was this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152780345&postcount=4627
It was about a *sequel* and that not making a sequel would lessen diversity. Which is clearly wrong, exactly because money is not infinite.
lol, perfect usage
Don't need to play it; I've read the reviews and even watched some of it on Youtube.
Ain't no way this is getting $70 from me.
Absolutely not liking what I've read or seen.
That is amazing. I wish someone had thought of it for MCC and Driveclub. I assume it's going to get a lot of play from here on out though.
1. GAF is a vocal minority
2. Work environment in the industry entirely depends on who you work for and your job title(just like any other industry tbh)
Windom Earle
Member
This game looked like a complete mess in the first gameplay trailer I saw. Seems it stayed that way which is sad. Also fuck "cinematic aspect ratio".
I was so hyped for this game before it was announced to be a linear shooter. That first announcement trailer was ridiculous.
I was so hyped for this game before it was announced to be a linear shooter. That first announcement trailer was ridiculous.
You don't want to be matched with randoms to do a raid, you know how many people afk in strikes? Too many, so even if there was matchmaking, we would still be at OT 17 because it's a gaf community thread of people who want to roll with people from gaf.
OsirisBlack
Banned
In which regard? Are we saying people with good "judgment" knew it was going to be a bad game? Or are we saying people with good "judgment" knew it was going to be panned two years ago? I could say people with good "judgment" would play the game and judge it for themselves.
DLC?Or maybe a sequel. I will get this at some point.
They have said nothing about DLC of any sort but it wouldn't surprise me if something was added down the line to explain a few things. As far as sequels go will probably depend on sales.
Really? Or are you joking?
bigdaddygamebot
Member
I had the conversation two weeks ago with some friends over how something seems..."off". Like it just felt like they were being cagey with what they were showing and how they were showing it but I couldn't really put my finger on it and go, "Ha! See?!?!"
Also...I really wanted it to be something special and not a cautionary tale.
Perfect.
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