SmokedMeat
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Because we all know a sequel can't go in a different direction, while retaining the cool concept and setting of the original.
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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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Because we all know a sequel can't go in a different direction, while retaining the cool concept and setting of the original.
Isn't that kind of the case with every creative line of work? Even in shit movies goes often some hard work. It's cruel, but at the same time will people carry you on their shoulders if you succeed
Sola Scriptura
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Not to mention having to resist the urge to blame it all on the leak.
The key in your counter-argument is "friend". My friend recommending something or not recommending something is much different than a forum opinion or a "professional" opinion which is what we're seeing here with The Order. I may trust my friend(s) judgement.
As far the other point, again, amazing how people are calling for apologies without even playing the game. My response was to that, specifically.
TerryLee81
Member
100 pages, impressive.
Disappointed by their game design philosophy on this. They should've designed mechanics, then $60 worth of well-paced gameplay (throw in replayability while you're at it), then weave their story around that. Then leave prepro.
With that said, I think the RAD team's next game will be fucking crazy. Hope they get the chance.
With that said, I think the RAD team's next game will be fucking crazy. Hope they get the chance.
Hmmm, I saw conflicting reports from GAFers - not sure about press I don't follow many of them so I may have missed their thoughts. Some GAFers praised it and some lambasted it (if I recall correctly). It definitely wasn't GOTY material, but I didn't think it would turn out this poorly in the end. After all people have varying opinions.
What's also intersting is even negative previews from the gaming press, they would go a week later and hype it up as "big game releases coming up in 2015".
See: http://www.gamespot.com/videos/what-are-the-biggest-games-of-2015/2300-6422896/
50 posts/page, disgusting. True page count is 50.
Nope.
If not every idea is being greenlit then it means that The Order took the place of something else.
that is pretty much what they showed us every single time they showed the game. I don't know what people were seeing in those original gameplay videos other than that.
Their apology should take the form of a big middle finger addressed at some reviewers IMHO.
The Order: 1886 has been reviewed, poorly, shortly before it was released. That's OK. Purchasing the game is not mandatory. No one needs to be offended.
The idea that someone would have to apologize for releasing a working product is utterly ludicrous. Get over yourself.
There were plenty of previews that said it wasn't very good that explained why.
And although I know that this is kind of sacrilege to say, but I do actually trust videogame journalists who have to play games at trade shows for their job more than the average GAF poster.
It still comes down to sales numbers and their game has been pretty high on the Amazon hourly charts for days. Contrast that with a bomb like Driveclub that never climbed into the top 25 and mere days after release fell to around 500. Unless by "revamping my resume" you meant deleting this game from it. =)
As a company I think they're fine. They've done a lot of great work before this.
MaulerX
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If a dev intends a game to play mediocre they get a pass? I think it's bad on both counts and on both counts people should vote with their wallet.
Kacho
Gold Member
Not everyone is so easily satisfied. I think most people just want good games.
After their last attempt, I think RAD should not address anything for awhile.
Guys, there is plenty of positive to be plucked from these reviews that Ready at Dawn can throw up on any future ads:
EGM: ".... as impressive as anything seen.."
Kotaku: "...a game that combines the magic of cinematic technique with the graphical prowess of the PS4.."
Polygon: "...no better looking game on consoles."
Escapist: "...gorgeous, next generation graphics.."
Gamespot: "consistent, stylish visuals"
IGN: "...absolutely gorgeous and wondefully atmospheric.."
EGM: ".... as impressive as anything seen.."
Kotaku: "...a game that combines the magic of cinematic technique with the graphical prowess of the PS4.."
Polygon: "...no better looking game on consoles."
Escapist: "...gorgeous, next generation graphics.."
Gamespot: "consistent, stylish visuals"
IGN: "...absolutely gorgeous and wondefully atmospheric.."
Don't get me wrong, I was aware for years that this was the purpose of embargoes since day 1...
But not shipping out review copies is even worst, because it basically makes the embargo date = release day + days to finish the game... that's where I see things going now. It's just getting worst...
Publishers know when their games are good. We've seen games with no embergo or embargo a full week or more before release, and those games had glowing scores. When an embergo is the day before release, or no review copies are sent out at all, it should ONLY be taken as a sign for the worst... just assume a game is crap at that point and wait it out. And never pre-order anything.
I hate the "by the numbers" "well oiled machine" this industry is becoming...
Zen_Arcade
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I'm sorry you can't tell the difference between something you'll like and something you won't without experiencing it first, but that's a thing a lot of people are perfectly capable of doing. I've been looking at the Order since it's released and barring the setting I could have told you the game play in this game was going to look bland since the first game play video. I've been playing video games long enough to be able to spot the way a game is going to be without having to actually play it. The same way I can see plenty of movie trailers and get a feeling if it's going to be terrible or not. I'm right far more often then I'm wrong. I don't need to actually go see Grown Ups 2 to tell that it's going to be a terrible movie. There are many factors at play that tell me that just by seeing a two minute trailer. I don't need to go play Sonic Boom to see that game was going to be a waste of my time.
If I go online and see pictures of the food from the restaurant you're talking about and it looks disgusting, I don't need to eat it to tell. If I look at game play videos of the Order online and the game play looks boring and linear, I don't need to actually go play the game to determine if that's true. There are enough impressions and videos out there for me to make that educated guess myself.
Actually, at 55 it's a standard deviation below the median score of 70. I always find Metacritic's rating system interesting. For instance, in this case there are 19 reviews that are below their listed score of 66, while 20 of the scores have it at 75 or higher.
Snapshot King
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Fair enough, but if you're going to literally throw the entire review culture under the bus, that's on you, but getting on peoples case for reading reviews as well as checking footage of the game out in order to reach an opinion is asinine. If that's out of the way, then what's the solution? You can't make a decision unless you buy every game?
What bullying comments did Rad make?
Exactly. There's no difference.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
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By far, that is on another level.
Howard Alan Treesong
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Gosh, imagine being that team.
I don't know. They should get about announcing it soon before it is resold like crazy.
It's better than 65% ¯_(ツ
_/¯The Shogun
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No one should have to apologize for anything. RAD made the game they wanted to make, it seems the media do not like it at all. They made some very questionable design decisions but they made the game they wanted to make. It runs fine / doesn't crash your system / isn't a buggy mess. Its just likely, not all that good.
There is no reason to apologize, just hopefully they will work on their design choices for their next project.
There is no reason to apologize, just hopefully they will work on their design choices for their next project.
Kssio_Aug
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Lol that overraction. Calm down dude!
He is not wrong! If the reviews confirmed what he doesnt like in a game (and almost every review were in a consesus this time) he doesnt need to spend 60 dollars (or whatever he pays in his country) to get himself frustrated.
I was fearing about this game replay value, and it got confirmed to be non-existent, also it was pretty much confirmed the game is indeed quite short (specially cutting off the cutscenes). So I wont risk paying 60 dollars (or 170 reais in Brazil, that is a lot of money) for that either. I may try it though if I find it for half of the price or less.
Crimsonclaw111
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Not for a AAA title with so much hype and marketing.
freenudemacusers
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the devs were aiming for a 66% metacritic experience
Lakerchick4life
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I was excited to get this game, was going to get it through amazon since I have 30 bucks in credit to use, but with the reviews and how short the game is, I think I will pass and get Kirby and the rainbow curse instead..what do you all think of DragonBall Xenoverse is that game worth getting and if so for what system(PS4 or XBOX ONE)
Welcome to GAF...
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Don't apologize, just make a better game next time.
Game got mediocre reviews. It's not the end of the world. Planet's still spinning.
Game got mediocre reviews. It's not the end of the world. Planet's still spinning.
Besides Driveclub and The Order? What other games have received such negative "opinions" before release?
Note: I'll reference this post, days before Bloodborne comes out. I expect nothing short of what's happened to Driveclub and The Order...for Bloodborne.
SPACECADET
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welp, i'll wait till it's bargain bin price. it's a shame, i was hoping it would be something more. next thing i got to look forward to is bloodborne.
NoirVisage
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Same here, It doesn't sound like a keeper but its definitely something to be experienced
I'm finally joining the current gen in 1 more day!
Supermanisdead
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not with that unfinished story rofl
Oh please. You're acting like it doesn't exist and there aren't people here that never wanted to buy the game talking shit and enjoying every minute of this.
Well 66% is still a fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.
Well 66% is a D. So you have to figure out whether a D is acceptable to you or not. Depends on where you're from though.
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