The PS5 officially crosses the 2 Million unit mark in Japan
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MasterCornholio
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looks like you might be getting your wish granted soon. 
Can't wait to see what he's doing with them.
S0ULZB0URNE
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I can see it slightly surpassing PS4 if not for covid.
So my guesses would be 2.8-3 million after 2 years.
remember_spinal
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It will def surpass ps4 next year, its only 200k behind and they haven't released any big japanese games yet.
solidus12
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What was the wish?
Can't wait to see what he's doing with them.
Woopah
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Right now PS5 software sales are quite low, but there's a chance for that to change next year with Resident Evil, Final Fantasy and the chance of one of the new IPs breaking out.
MasterCornholio
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He kept wanting a trailer of Kojimas game. Hopefully we get one soon.
S0ULZB0URNE
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I was talking about 2 year comparison.
Skifi28
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If they don't buy games what do they do with their consoles? In the western world we know about those that just play COD or Fifa. What's the equivalent in Japan?
solidus12
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Oh, that's a wish I can get behind. I thought he wished for Xbox to acquire Kojima Productions
SmokedMeat
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How long did it take Switch to hit 2 million?
MasterCornholio
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Oh, that's a wish I can get behind. I thought he wished for Xbox to acquire Kojima Productions
Yes definitely what ever it is I hope we see it soon.
Woopah
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A lot of PS5s bought in Japan are likely shipped oversees. So far we haven't seen any Japanese evergreens for that particular platform, though it could be something free to play like Genshin Impact or Apex Legends.
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AncientOrigin
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I don't know when you visit the famitsu sales chart here on Gaf there are always A-AA Typ of unknown small Titels which sell like 1 week 17.456 and the second week 6.390 or so I always wondered about that
Woopah
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For the total Japanese market, the equivalent to COD and FIFA are Nintendo first party games. That is the challenge Sony faces.
Mibu no ookami
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Almost certainly.
You have to recognize that Japan took a backseat because Sony wanted to produce as many units for North America so they didn't fall behind Xbox in the most competitive market. Even Europe by comparison hasn't received nearly as many PS5s as you'd imagine. Simply because Sony knows they aren't as competitive markets. That's why every other region except the US got price hikes (that and the strength of the dollar).
I think they obviously want it to sell better in Japan and FF will be a big part of that, but they need way more than just FF. We'll see how far we are from a Persona 6 announcement and Dragon Quest.
Mediocre hardware sales, absolutely atrocious software sales. Latest famitsu numbers have Persona 5 Royal selling nearly 10x as many copies on switch than the ps5 version. Same for Dragon Quest 10 offline. I guess publishers will just have to put up with poor sales in the japanese market.
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Woopah
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For P5 Royal it totally makes sense, as most Persona fans on PlayStation will have already played the game.
TheTony316
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I mean, what did you expect from the PS5 version? The game has been on Playstation since 2017.
remember_spinal
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No, everyone should run out and buy a 60fps update for a game they've given out for free already for a full 60 dollars
Its bad enough we all bought royal again for full price after the vanilla persona 5 3 years earlier
Its bad enough we all bought royal again for full price after the vanilla persona 5 3 years earlier
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Skifi28
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If there's at least 10x switches out there, that would make total sense.
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Mr Moose
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Sold 201k on PS4 at launch and is backwards compatible, not much reason to re-buy a game like that just for some DLC.
nordique
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Pokémon, animal crossing, splatoon
Evil Calvin
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That doesn't really seem like much.
I thought the Japanese didn't like monstrous consoles since most abodes are small.
I thought the Japanese didn't like monstrous consoles since most abodes are small.
drganon
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Still made the top 10 though.
Alright, nevermind about that game. It doesn't change the point, PS5 still has awful software sales in japan, even relative to install base.
remember_spinal
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More western folk tales about what japanese people prefer, like they are hobbits or something
Ps5's are still selling out almost instantly in Japan with the price increase, people want them.
Mr Moose
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24.5 million more Switches than PS5s and only managed 40k more sales?
nocsi
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What makes sense is persona 5 already sold 300k on PlayStation. The people that played it already played it. On the other hand, 50k on switch is atrocious
Physiognomonics
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Hey Playstation boss is looking old here. Isn't there a law saying you should retire at 60 years old in Japan? Shouldn't Jim Ryan be subject to this law?
Can't wait to see what he's doing with them.
Totally random and genuine question guys.
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Covid spiked demand, if there was no covid there would have been less demand not more
Gambit2483
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Maybe....but unlike PS5 and Xbox, Switch has dozens upon dozens of other good-great games new (and current) Switch owners have options to purchase. Let's see how it continues to perform before calling it "atrocious"
Pretty decent launch numbers for a 5 year old game isn't it?24.5 million more Switches than PS5s and only managed 40k more sales?
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
So you are telling me you can easily find a PS5 few years ago? Have you ever heard of something called "supply"?
No offense but this is the dumbest reply I had even seen so far.
You cant buy one if there is no supply, demand or not.
Japanese gamers hunger for PS5 as Sony feeds US market
North America key to new console's duel with Microsoft Xbox
asia.nikkei.com
Somehow, PS5 Shortages Are About To Get Even Worse
Trying to buy a next-generation console this holiday season is borderline impossible, as instant sellouts of the PS5, Xbox Series X and S have continued for a full year after the release of the consoles. And it's only getting worse.
www.forbes.com
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It was sold out because covid spiked demand. If there was no covid there would have been less demand, why do you think everything was sold out in 2020?
So you are telling me you can easily find a PS5 few years ago? Have you ever heard of something called "supply"?
No offense but this is the dumbest reply I had even seen so far.
You cant buy one if there is no supply, demand or not.
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Covid increaded demand for electronics games 30%
https://www2.deloitte.com/xe/en/ins...nsumer-electronics-sales-growth-covid-19.html
Switch went 24 million predicted to 28 million sold in 2020 because of covid. Hell if nintendo hadn't had shortages switch probably would have hit 30+ million.
If you can't understand that covid increased demand you're probably not as smart as you think you are.
Captain Toad
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Woopah
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Individual software sales don't scale with hardware like that, especially not on launch week.24.5 million more Switches than PS5s and only managed 40k more sales?
50k launch week for a years old game is not "atrocious".
Skifi28
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Perhaps, but if there is no demand then the lack of supply doesn't matter...!
A few more comparisons between PS5 and other slow selling consoles of the past (chart by Hiska-kun on InstallBaseForum)
Paperclip Killa
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Software sales in Japan are abysmal. It will do better than the Wii U but likely not by much as once sales get to the point they need to have people buying games to continue, that's when sales will crater weekly. Sony is also the last home console in the region with any validity to the minds of players there, so as it shrinks so does the console market.
But what's the current shape of the (I think you mean TV) console market?
The japanese market has always relied a lot on the mid/small productions and currently most of the small/mid budget games are shared between the Nintendo ecosystem and PlayStation ecosystem.
What's left out are for the most part some big productions which are limited in quantity and are nowhere near the popularity of Nintendo first-party mega hits.
Even among the third-party franchises that have proved in recent time to be capable to sell over 1M at retail (mainline Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, Momotaro Dentetsu, Minecraft) most of 'em are available on Switch.
With the Nintendo Switch the separation between the different form factors of game systems (TV console, handheld console, tabletop console) was rendered obsolete and this mutation was particularly impactful in Japan due to the peculiar dynamics of market there.
Take as an example one of the most important third-party franchise in Japan, Dragon Quest:
GB/C - PS1 (completely different games)
GBA - PS2 (completely different games)
3DS - PS4 - NSW (3DS: DQXI demake mandatory to not lose sales in Japan - PS4: DQXI main version - NSW: subsequent DQXI definitive version that later was ported "as is" to PS4)
Paperclip Killa
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Those third-party games generally aren't selling more on the Switch or generating the same profit they were in the past under PlayStation. The biggest selling third-party game not associated with Nintendo on the Switch is Monster Hunter Rise at 7M copies, followed by a Konami board game at 3M.
The bestselling Square Enix game on the Switch is Octopath with 2M copies sold. All 3 of these are global figures.
In Japan it's even worse.
There isn't a single DQ or FF game that sold 1M copies on the Switch in Japan, and almost every DQ game release on the system has sold less than 400,000 copies other than XI S.
In Japan 23 games have sold more than 1M copies on the Switch, only 4 weren't published by Nintendo or the Pokemon Company.
Both DQ and FF sold more than 1M copies on the PS4, and other games from third parties, even late releases, came close and the PS4 was a decline from the PS3. The Switch isn't the 'everyone eats' success people convince themselves it is. It's mainly a Nintendo device, and I suspect larger third parties will eventually run to the PS5 as availability increases. We may also see more Japanese companies take interest in selling on PC through digital stores.
Square Enix just announced they are moving focus away from Japan because it's not sustainable and will now shift towards being a global company, primarily western.
The bestselling Square Enix game on the Switch is Octopath with 2M copies sold. All 3 of these are global figures.
In Japan it's even worse.
There isn't a single DQ or FF game that sold 1M copies on the Switch in Japan, and almost every DQ game release on the system has sold less than 400,000 copies other than XI S.
In Japan 23 games have sold more than 1M copies on the Switch, only 4 weren't published by Nintendo or the Pokemon Company.
Both DQ and FF sold more than 1M copies on the PS4, and other games from third parties, even late releases, came close and the PS4 was a decline from the PS3. The Switch isn't the 'everyone eats' success people convince themselves it is. It's mainly a Nintendo device, and I suspect larger third parties will eventually run to the PS5 as availability increases. We may also see more Japanese companies take interest in selling on PC through digital stores.
Square Enix just announced they are moving focus away from Japan because it's not sustainable and will now shift towards being a global company, primarily western.
Woopah
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When Capcom and Konami put their major franchises on Switch they do well. Square has put 1 mainline entry on Switch (DQ XI) and it was a years late port that still did 700,000+ physical in Japan alone.
The reason that SE's mainline entries in their biggest franchises aren't selling big numbers on Switch is because they are not launching on Switch. But SE has found a lot of success with the games it has put on Switch, which is why we are seeing them committing more support to it, same as Tecmo Koei, Marvellous and Spike Chunsoft.