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[OCD Guy]

Anyone who still wants to follow the bulk of Gaf's users, follow https://twitter.com/ReseteraForum on Twitter for more deets, coming soon.

Laters.

Why do people keep saying this? Honestly it's not the "bulk" of NeoGaf that are migrating to this forum. It's a small percentage....

One thing worth noting is that initially it's invite only, there isn't going to be open public registrations at the start, so it's going to be a very small group.

 

[WhatNXt]

This is a sugarcoating of what actually happened.

I may not be in full possession of the facts, I'll admit. I lurked and posted here (and at OA and all the other places) at times other than when this actually went down. I'm not saying it makes the behaviour acceptable, I just think context is important. If you have a better understanding of that, then please share.

There's no difference between posting a woman's pictures without her consent when its to get at someone who antagonises you, or whether its just out of the blue. What I was ultimately trying to say is that this forum is very much holier than thou, but back in the day there were a lot of people behaving questionably across all of these sites. And ultimately, I suspect if we dug in to other posters' histories - perhaps other respected members - we'd find other instances of wrong doing. Especially people who, 10-15 years ago would have been teenagers. I'm just trying to be realistic about it. It's awful, but I don't feel like I'm likely to be incorrect in saying that...

Doing something morally repugnant before society was ready to make informed and collective judgments is NOT a mitigating factor. The intent of revenge porn was always to hurt, embarrass and shame the victim. The fact that people do it less now due to legal consequences does not make the desire to do it to begin with any less disgusting.
Your mention of women being culpable for sharing pictures too freely is actual victim blaming as well, how is somebody less responsible for abusing trust in a time when people were more trusting? People are less trusting now because of people like that who trampled all over it.

I wouldn't want to be sharing a forum with people like that in 10 years time either. You seem to resent the fact of truths coming to light, I don't think it matters where they came from.

You're right, it's not a mitigating factor. My suggestion that women are better advised these days wasn't to lay any blame at the feet of women in the years before that, to the contrary, I am saying that the prevalence of revenge porn has lessened because - exactly as you state - there are consequences now. Everyone is aware of where it can lead. I have a friend who tongue firmly in cheek, often says AMAB. Meaning All Men Are Bastards. Of course, that's not true, but a large quantity of them have the potential to be. A lot of them have been in the past. A lot of them will be in the future. And that's a shame. You're right, people should be able to trust others, and events like the one we're talking about are why people don't.

Pretty much. What Evilore did was despicable. Say what you will about Oli, he would never do what Evilore did over some forum war. Most of the post is revisionist bullshit. If you weren't there, don't comment please.

Like I say, I'm happy to admit I don't know all the details or may have some of it incorrect, if anyone knows exactly how it went down I'm sure this thread is as good a place as any. I just don't like seeing the image macro accusations flying about without a deeper account of what this place and others were like back then. Oli was a nice guy at heart, I have nothing against him or any other OA posters really. Some of them were really funny. But this wasn't the only event that made OA an anarchistic cess-pit at times. IMO of course.

 

[KarneeKarnay]

You said you're leaving.

As he said, he's still waiting to be banned. More power to him and others that choose to leave.

 

[Intel_89]

Why do people keep saying this? Honestly it's not the "bulk" of NeoGaf that are migrating to this forum. It's a small percentage....

He means the "good" ones. No offense to those who've decided to move to somewhere else.

 

[BocoDragon]

Why do people keep saying this? Honestly it's not the "bulk" of NeoGaf that are migrating to this forum. It's a small percentage....

Yeah. The small percentage that is the active posters.

Dude this place is a ghost town and I don't recognize anyone posting.

 

[OCD Guy]

As he said, he's still waiting to be banned. More power to him and others that choose to leave.

Why do people need to wait to be banned? Why not just log out?

He means the "good" ones. No offense to those who've decided to move to somewhere else.

Yeah. The small percentage that is the active posters.

Dude this place is a ghost town and I don't recognize anyone posting.

I'll admit that a lot of the recognisable posters in the gaming forum haven't appeared to be active recently, but they're still a small percentage of the overall userbase on here, it's just they tend to be more active, create more threads etc.

I wish people setting up ResetEra luck but I feel that having an invite only registration is not going to promote the free speech good vibes they want, it's probably going to be a big circle jerk, and if public registrations ever happen it'll likely not feel too welcoming to new members.

But anyway it doesn't concern me. To be honest NeoGaf was one of the best gaming forums for news etc, if it dies, then it'll likely be Reddit as the next best step, they tend to have a lot of devs/industry insiders doing AMA's and they often break news there quite quickly too.

 

[KarneeKarnay]

Why do people need to wait to be banned? Why not just log out?

It's not exactly protesting if you don't turn up.

 

[Mahadev]

Why do people need to wait to be banned? Why not just log out?

Virtue signalling is the answer.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

Why do people need to wait to be banned? Why not just log out?

Just to annoy you.

 

[The ๖ۜBronx]

Why do people keep saying this? Honestly it's not the "bulk" of NeoGaf that are migrating to this forum. It's a small percentage....

Almost every single person that was active in the OT's I frequented is moving. I think it just depends on how you engaged with the forum as to how much you notice it. I don't think anyone's suggesting the majority of the forum member count is moving, but significant chunks of the active participating community that I've seen and known are leaving.

If people just used it for reading news without much interaction I don't think much will change (bar slower OT's), but the tone of the website is changing if this thread is indicative. Already seen more than enough people claiming to have been oppressed and victimised while simultaneously mocking others for safe spaces.

Virtue signalling is the answer.

No, it's just a phrase that doesn't really mean much when you use it as loosely as you seem to. People protesting with ban-me threads on forums has been a thing since the early days of the internet. "Someone doing something I don't like, must be virtue signalling!". Please.

 

[Ethelwulf]

Why do people need to wait to be banned? Why not just log out?

Maybe the site owner can give us the option to opt out any time? Like a 'delete account' button? That would certainly solve the problem. I would appreciate it.

 

[BocoDragon]

Maybe the site owner can give us the option to opt out any time? Like a 'delete account' button? That would certainly solve the problem. I would appreciate it.

That's like saying the government should make a form you can fill out to register your discontent instead of blocking traffic with a protest.

 

[OCD Guy]

Just to annoy you.

Honestly it doesn't annoy me. I was just asking a question.

My opinion on how to hurt this forum is to not post at all, let it turn into a ghost town, that'll have more of an effect than creating 100 threads a day. Even if the content is negative towards Evilore it's still creating traffic and promoting activity.

A forum with no posts is worthless, and it sends a stronger message. Otherwise if it's nastiness it ends up nothing more than Game FAQs

 

[Ethelwulf]

That's like saying the government should make a form you can fill out to register your discontent instead of blocking traffic with a protest.

Nothing like that. You can still get banned and protest. I'm not against speaking your mind up. This would simply be an option.

 

[The ๖ۜBronx]

nvm-misfire

 

[WhatNXt]

You seem to resent the fact of truths coming to light, I don't think it matters where they came from.

I'd just like to respond to this again, as well.

Absolutely not, I don't resent truth coming to light at all. In fact, the truth is the best disinfectant. I appreciate that this thread is remaining open and allowing discussion on all of this, because I think it's the best thing for the site. Hopefully, it will result in changes, and action.

I think I do view this community as distinct from its owner, and I think I possibly do resent feeling that there are some disgusting quarters of the internet celebrating our demise.

 

[peetfeet]

I mean, the Discord server that was set up in the wake of the weekend shutdown already has significantly more posting activity than this website. Shit's withered.

And the discord is a complete mess and seems populated by children, although it's calming down a bit now. Hopefully it's more sensible was a home is complete.

 

[BocoDragon]

I wish people setting up ResetEra luck but I feel that having an invite only registration is not going to promote the free speech good vibes they want, it's probably going to be a big circle jerk, and if public registrations ever happen it'll likely not feel too welcoming to new members.

I mean it's just GAF's delayed approval system with a waiting list of established Gaffers.

At some point you'll be able to apply without invite, just as you would with GAF.

Nothing like that. You can still get banned and protest. I'm not against speaking your mind up. This would simply be an option.

Fair enough. I suppose some people want the suicide button and don't care about the message.

 

[FunkyMonk]

Virtue signalling is the answer.

Are you aware what virtue signalling actually means*? There's nothing to be gained by doing it with an anonymous avatar, instead it's being used more and more as a form of trying to shut people up, something I thought you were against to be honest.

*well, meant before the alt-right twisted it well beyond its initial meaning that is.

 

[Intel_89]

Why do people need to wait to be banned? Why not just log out?





I'll admit that a lot of the recognisable posters in the gaming forum haven't appeared to be active recently, but they're still a small percentage of the overall userbase on here, it's just they tend to be more active, create more threads etc.

I wish people setting up ResetEra luck but I feel that having an invite only registration is not going to promote the free speech good vibes they want, it's probably going to be a big circle jerk, and if public registrations ever happen it'll likely not feel too welcoming to new members.

But anyway it doesn't concern me. To be honest NeoGaf was one of the best gaming forums for news etc, if it dies, then it'll likely be Reddit as the next best step, they tend to have a lot of devs/industry insiders doing AMA's and they often break news there quite quickly too.

As some familiar faces sadly leave I'm hopeful that new ones will rise, I mean yesterday was pretty depressing (still is today to some degree) but the gaming forum seems to be slowly recovering. I hope that GAF won't die because of what happened despite being sad to witness the community being torn apart.

 

[psychowave]

why do people even care if RE ends up being a "circlejerk"

you dont have to visit it. just ignore it like normal people ignore chan boards or breitbart. why are you so upset that something exists that doesn't cater to you specifically. christ.

 

[CaviarMeths]

I wish people setting up ResetEra luck but I feel that having an invite only registration is not going to promote the free speech good vibes they want, it's probably going to be a big circle jerk, and if public registrations ever happen it'll likely not feel too welcoming to new members.

Sorry you feel that way. We never really interacted, but I did enjoy reading your posts. Your "fancy some dicks" thread will always be legendary too. Will miss your contributions to discussion on the new site.

It is worth noting though that the reason invites are coming in waves is to set a base first. Community leaders are being let in first to get their threads set up so that you don't have thousands of people pouring into an empty site. Anybody who was a regular here and found a sense of community will most likely be welcome there too. Besides an overhaul of the way moderation works, I honestly don't see it being much different than the GAF that most people seemed to like just fine a week ago.

Hope you change your mind. Sad to be at opposite ends of the table with a fellow NintendoGAFfer.

 

[OCD Guy]

why do people even care if RE ends up being a "circlejerk"

you dont have to visit it. just ignore It like normal people ignore chan boards or breitbart. why are you so upset that something exists that doesn't cater to you specifically. christ.

I'm not upset, and I think I've posted clear and concisely and I've been respectful towards members.

You're the one that appears to be upset and defensive (judging by your post)

Sorry you feel that way. We never really interacted, but I did enjoy reading your posts. Your "fancy some dicks" thread will always be legendary too. Will miss your contributions to discussion on the new site.

It is worth noting though that the reason invites are coming in waves is to set a base first. Community leaders are being let in first to get their threads set up so that you don't have thousands of people pouring into an empty site. Anybody who was a regular here and found a sense of community will most likely be welcome there too. Besides an overhaul of the way moderation works, I honestly don't see it being much different than the GAF that most people seemed to like just fine a week ago.

Hope you change your mind. Sad to be at opposite ends of the table with a fellow NintendoGAFfer.

Thanks, yeah that thread was crazy.

Thanks for the the explanation, it makes perfect sense, I suppose looking at it logically if it was public registrations initially the reality is you might end up with Pro NeoGAf posters creating burner accounts to spam the forum. So as you say set the base up, and then I imagine by the time open registrations happen everything will have calmed down.

 

[Mahadev]

No, it's just a phrase that doesn't really mean much when you use it as loosely as you seem to. People protesting with ban-me threads on forums has been a thing since the early days of the internet. "Someone doing something I don't like, must be virtue signalling!". Please.

Are you seriously call this pathetic crap protesting?

 

[kyser73]

people who think GAF was "extreme left" probably haven't met a single leftist in their lives lol. GAF was just your regular liberal crowd, not actually leftist

Liberal-authoritarian is probably closer to it...

 

[Dirtyshubb]

I have learned a lot in my 9 years here about peoples posting habits, especially those with racist/sexist/bigoted views.

Because Gaf was so strict on the obvious stuff, it forced some posters to try and be smart about sharing their hateful opinions. Instead of someone just coming outright and saying it, they would 'Just come and ask questions' to excuse their thinly veiled opinions as mere ignorant curiosity. Or you would have "I dont know the backstory about this 30 page thread but here is my opinion that excuses and justifies this persons racist/sexist behaviour".

Taken at face value these posts (The questions one mainly) wouldn't be so bad but you start to notice the pattern of it happening with certain posters regularly and most importantly in specific threads.

After a while you realise that these people arent being genuine with their arguments because no matter how reasoned, evidence based, calm and collected your argument may be you will nearly always end up with them ignoring half your post and focusing one one specific thing that that think they can win.

After a while you realise that these people do nothing but slowly poison discussion and have no genuine desire to have a debate but instead get away with riling people up or getting their opinion out there. They derail threads and are often the cause of the big arguments.

Im not saying you cant have an opinion, i follow many threads where i dont agree with most people but if the conversation is reasonable then they can share their opinions then its fine. But when you have posters continually travelling from thread to thread, pretending to be an innocent party and then acting the victim when they get called out for it you start to lose patience with seeing it happen every day.

Another thing to take into consideration is that you can think/act racist/sexist/bigoted without realising you are. I have seen it a lot where someone would say something dodgy, people would say 'Hey, thats a bit dodgy. Might want to think about how you phrase that/if you should say that' and then the 'victim' would normally feel attacked and lash out, probably shouting about Gaf being a hivemind.

Discussions are good, that should be why we are all here. This idea that discussion wasnt allowed is hyperbole. Yes you would have people comment and jump on your for sharing opinions they disagreed with but most times i saw this the 'victim' wasnt as innocent or their opinion as moderate as they thought it was.

When you have a whole bunch of people trying to discuss with you why they feel your opinion is wrong it can feel overwhelming for sure. I have been there before (HilaryGaf being the worst for this) but i never felt like i was being silenced, just that a whole bunch of people agreed with each other and that my opinion was in the minority.

 

[psychowave]

I'm not upset, and I think I've posted clear and concisely and I've been respectful towards members.

You're the one that appears to be upset and defensive.

who was talking to you

 

[TumblingHippo]

Honestly it doesn't annoy me. I was just asking a question.

My opinion on how to hurt this forum is to not post at all, let it turn into a ghost town, that'll have more of an effect than creating 100 threads a day. Even if the content is negative towards Evilore it's still creating traffic and promoting activity.

A forum with no posts is worthless, and it sends a stronger message. Otherwise if it's nastiness it ends up nothing more than Game FAQs

Turning NeoGAF into GameFAQs would be a great way to ruin it so that could be fun.

 

[Mahadev]

Liberal-authoritarian is probably closer to it...

Neoliberal authoritrian was even closer imo. We'll see what happens now if people are allowed to voice their opinions and if politics are eventually allowed.

 

[OCD Guy]

who was talking to you

I assumed you were as I was the most recent person to mention ResetEra, and said it might turn into a "circlejerk", then you post shortly after saying "Why do people even care if RE turns into a circlejerk".

 

[fart]

well, i'm back, and the only user i don't predate is liu kang baking a pie (STILL the only poster worth reading on the forum). i've been through the gaming-age transition, countless splinter forums, and pretty much everything except for gamergate (i was otherwise occupied through that thing). in my experience, the sky falls every few years on every very large forum, and yet it never quite hits the ground.

in short, don't worry, just keep talking, and your world, no matter how off-kilter you think it seems now, will right itself. alternatively, stop talking for a couple months, and when you think to come back and say something, things will be pretty much back in steady state.

-fart

 

[Pixieking]

Most of GAF considers anyone with dissenting politics to be alt-right, so I wouldn't put any stock in that.

We're really not a hive-mind. I don't mind right-wing views, and nor do a lot of others, if backed up with actual intelligent reasoning. Unfortunately, a lot of right-wing people can't fully articulate why they believe something, or end-up contradicting themselves, which makes a lot of people just think "Ah, racist/sexist/whatever". Like, the cognitive dissonance in people who are okay with Trump, but think Weinstein is bad. The cognitive dissonance in the Religious Right being anti-abortion, but not wanting free condoms and sex-ed in school. The cognitive dissonance in saying that America shouldn't get invested in wars abroad, but are fine with spending hikes for the military. Also, trickle-down economics has been fully disproven at this point, so give us another reason why you want tax cuts for the rich.

There was a comment made by a politician just prior to the Brexit Referendum, which was that "People are fed up of so-called experts". If you take a look at the political viewpoints of climate change, then you can see that the Right are fed up of experts, but the Left aren't. Maybe because the Left have a more solid analytical/critical groundwork in which to examine scientific claims? Don't know. Anyways. This isn't necessarily the Right's fault (education and lack of awareness of the branches of government play a part), but it does explain why a forum that relishes "deep-dives" into subjects skews Left, and likes to catch the Right out in their double-standards.

Edit: Also, if you're pro-Trump, you've got to admit to alt-Right leanings, at the very least. The guy outright refused to condemn Neo-Nazis, and fears the free ("fake") press so much he repeatedly Tweets against it.

 

[The ๖ۜBronx]

Are you seriously call this pathetic crap protesting?

You seem to have an issue understanding the basic definition of words.

 

[psychowave]

I assumed you were as I was the most recent person to mention ResetEra, and said it might turn into a "circlejerk", then you post shortly after saying "Who cares if Resetera turns into a circlejerk".

you assumed wrong

 

[ULTROS!]

Yeah. The small percentage that is the active posters.

Dude this place is a ghost town and I don't recognize anyone posting.

I'm sure you recognize me!

 

[Euphoria14]

Been following this thread and it's posts more than I should have lol, but oh my has it been entertaining. Also shocked some people have literally been going non-stop for what seems like 24 hours.

Thinking about playing the lotto. Just need to ask certain people in here the numbers since they clearly know everything at every point, every thought in every mind and can break it all down to specific actions with a timeline and even apply motive. People who seem to know every single person better than they know themselves. It's incredible.

I need this power.

 

[Lucumo]

I assumed you were as I was the most recent person to mention ResetEra, and said it might turn into a "circlejerk", then you post shortly after saying "Why do people even care if RE turns into a circlejerk".

No worries, you weren't the only one to assume so, considering you were the only person to write that word and he responded by using the same word, that only you used and really had any connection with, in quotation marks while beginning with the sentence: "Why do people...".

Dude this place is a ghost town and I don't recognize anyone posting.

You do realize GAF is huge and considering the current state of affairs, a lot of people who usually don't post much or elsewhere, are posting here at the moment?

btw: I do recognize your avatar.

 

[Subpar Scrub]

You said you're leaving.

I'm posting joke threads, but the mods don't give a fuck about the dregs that want to remain here, so they haven't banned me in a timely manner. Their fault, not mine.

Why do people keep saying this? Honestly it's not the "bulk" of NeoGaf that are migrating to this forum. It's a small percentage....

One thing worth noting is that initially it's invite only, there isn't going to be open public registrations at the start, so it's going to be a very small group.

It was the bulk of the people who actually posted. Most who remain are sub 0.5 posts per day. It'll be a small community for like a few days while the site gets stabilised, then it'll be fine.

 

[Lakuza]

Why do people need to wait to be banned? Why not just log out?





I'll admit that a lot of the recognisable posters in the gaming forum haven't appeared to be active recently, but they're still a small percentage of the overall userbase on here, it's just they tend to be more active, create more threads etc.

I wish people setting up ResetEra luck but I feel that having an invite only registration is not going to promote the free speech good vibes they want, it's probably going to be a big circle jerk, and if public registrations ever happen it'll likely not feel too welcoming to new members.

But anyway it doesn't concern me. To be honest NeoGaf was one of the best gaming forums for news etc, if it dies, then it'll likely be Reddit as the next best step, they tend to have a lot of devs/industry insiders doing AMA's and they often break news there quite quickly too.

its only invite only for the first wave of registrations, which should last an hour or 2. Anyone will be able to signup within the same day it goes live. They just dont want a large amount of members signing up within the first hour(edit: to avoid servers crashing etc), so with all the community / official topic creators getting an invite, they'll have their official topics posted as normal sign ups are enabled.

 

[Mahadev]

You seem to have an issue understanding the basic definition of words.

And you seem to like to dilute words to the point they're meaningless. These idiots aren't protesting, they're trying to look cool and virtuous to their buddies which is exactly what has been happening in the forum for years.

 

[FinalAres]

And you seem to like to dilute words to the point they're meaningless. These idiots aren't protesting, they're trying to look cool and virtuous to their buddies which is exactly what has been happening in the forum for years.

Ehh that's not fair. There's probably some of that, but many are actually protesting. As is often the case, it's neither one or the other, but both.

 

[The ๖ۜBronx]

And you seem to like to dilute words to the point they're meaningless. These idiots aren't protesting, they're trying to look cool and virtuous to their buddies which is exactly what has been happening in the forum for years.

Except, you know, the foremost definition of protest is:
"A statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something."

The bold part is incredibly rich, coming from someone that cries "virtue signalling" for things they don't like.

 

[Lovely Salsa]

Why do people keep saying this? Honestly it's not the "bulk" of NeoGaf that are migrating to this forum. It's a small percentage....

One thing worth noting is that initially it's invite only, there isn't going to be open public registrations at the start, so it's going to be a very small group.

So this is how they create hype huh

 

[The Albatross]

Maybe the site owner can give us the option to opt out any time? Like a 'delete account' button? That would certainly solve the problem. I would appreciate it.

I actually don't think that'd solve this for most people making shock/whatever posts hoping to get banned. I think anybody still making a big deal about wanting to be banned is doing so that they can take a screenshot and then parade around with it like a badge of honor. Especially this person we're talking about who is so desperate for attention that they're going to multiple threads bragging about ... Not being banned for their pretty lame post.

I'm not going to be logging into this site often, I disagree strongly with how Evilore handled this situation. I think he's killed his community by making the wrong decisions. But, I'm an adult. If I don't want to use NeoGaf, I'll click the 'logout' button and remove it from my favorites.

I get the argument that 'i don't want to support Evilore with ad revenue,' and I agree with that. But I have a sneaking suspicion that the people trying to loudly 'earn a ban' and then brag about it are still people coming back to the site, logged out, and hoping that their thread has left some legacy that they can marvel at. You give ad revenue banned or not, only way to truly stop contributing money to Evilore is to simply log out and not come back. It'd be a much more affective protest, but some people want an 'I protested' sticker.

 

[HStallion]

Again, genius logic. Because the subject of post I specifically responded to was this.



In direct response to this.



So your rebuttal to someone's personal anectdotal experience was to tell them that you never had any problems, except that I specifically brought up the salient point, that you enjoyed progressive protections and influence, which makes your rebuttal point pretty much a BS apples to oranges comparison. Your protected progressive experience is in no way comparable to the experience of a non-progressive arguing against progressive beliefs. Your attempt to deflect and portray it otherwise while also then making a "of course this is a progressive forum" is just ridiculous nonsense. Go peddle your broken ass weak comparisons elsewhere.

Mostly because I don't find rebuttals worth it to all the butt hurt people who got mad because they got banned. I've been banned for stupid shit and guess what? I got over it and stopped posting the shit that got me banned. Most of you are telling sob stories about how meant he mods are yet here you are all still coming to the forum. Its just a circle jerk of butt hurt posters somehow equating EviLore's poor handling of the whole situation and the nuking half the forum before going around locking threads left and right, even ones totally unrelated to the situation at hand while also causing a huge hemorrhage of posters because we all know that PoliGAF is the reason all this happened to the forum, right? Not the owner fucking up and dropping the ball big time.

Seem's like its just a bunch of people hopping on the wagon now that the moderation is slack and you can all dream about GAF of the future even as members and communities leave in droves. As I said I'm sure there were unfair bans but the good majority, we're talking well over 90% of them were well earned when I saw them. Mistakes happen but to say this board is poorly moderated makes me laugh as one of the reasons this site attracted such a large and ardent minority population was because of the tough moderation and no nonsense policies. This site was so hated by so many because of the kind of discourse you could have here which was often free of the toxicity that so many claim ran rampant.

 

[Com Truise]

Resetera (name makes me think of Recettear) has the stillbirth stank all over it. A congregation of all the "good ones" (lol) from GAF is going to eat itself so fucking fast. Good luck with trying to turn an over-moderated clique into a thriving community.

 

[HStallion]

Resetera (name makes me think of Recettear) has the stillbirth stank all over it. A congregation of all the "good ones" (lol) from GAF is going to eat itself so fucking fast. Good luck with trying to turn an over-moderated clique into a thriving community.

Sounds just like NeoGAF...

 

[Gromph]

Maybe the site owner can give us the option to opt out any time? Like a 'delete account' button? That would certainly solve the problem. I would appreciate it.

Logout and never come back is your solution

 

[Hitlersaurus Christ]

We're really not a hive-mind. I don't mind right-wing views, and nor do a lot of others, if backed up with actual intelligent reasoning. Unfortunately, a lot of right-wing people can't fully articulate why they believe something, or end-up contradicting themselves, which makes a lot of people just think "Ah, racist/sexist/whatever". Like, the cognitive dissonance in people who are okay with Trump, but think Weinstein is bad. The cognitive dissonance in the Religious Right being anti-abortion, but not wanting free condoms and sex-ed in school. The cognitive dissonance in saying that America shouldn't get invested in wars abroad, but are fine with spending hikes for the military. Also, trickle-down economics has been fully disproven at this point, so give us another reason why you want tax hikes for the rich.

There was a comment made by a politician just prior to the Brexit Referendum, which was that "People are fed up of so-called experts". If you take a look at the political viewpoints of climate change, then you can see that the Right are fed up of experts, but the Left aren't. Maybe because the Left have a more solid analytical/critical groundwork in which to examine scientific claims? Don't know. Anyways. This isn't necessarily the Right's fault (education and lack of awareness of the branches of government play a part), but it does explain why a forum that relishes "deep-dives" into subjects skews Left, and likes to catch the Right out in their double-standards.

Edit: Also, if you're pro-Trump, you've got to admit to alt-Right leanings, at the very least. The guy outright refused to condemn Neo-Nazis, and fears the free ("fake") press so much he repeatedly Tweets against it.

Well, I said most not all. I'm a "leftist." I agree with you on all of those points. But there was a definite mob mentality that took over sometimes and not every person written off as a gamergater was a Trump supporter or racist. There was a llot of hyperbole. A lot of smarmy self righteous people who almost made me not want to agree with them. And of course if you doubted anything about Russia's involvement in the wrong thread there were plenty of people who'd be glad to label you a Russian bot.

 

[Acheteedo]

I've been watching this mess unfold and feel that I've reflected enough to chime in now. I think a significant factor in the scale of the backlash is the flagrant hypocrisy displayed by the remaining NeoGAF management. It is, without question, the case that Evilore's behaviour (related to past instances, as shown throughout this thread, and related to the latest controversy) would have received a rapid permanent ban from the NeoGAF mods were he not the website's owner and instead just a regular user. The NeoGAF community have come to expect a certain kind of treatment of someone acting as Evilore has, which, when you are the site owner, can only mean one thing - resigning. It is staggering that it hasn't happened.

People are nuking accounts that they've used for many years, a powerful statement of protest showing just how badly this has played out. Those choosing to be complicit in the new order are of course screaming fake news and claiming that these names are unfamiliar, but in this day and age we're used to this kind of tactic, it's just deflection from the hard truth.

It's not even Evilore's actions during the harassment instances that I can comfortably criticise, I wasn't there and don't fully understand the circumstances. And while it doesn't look at all good for him, outside of legal contexts I do feel that "innocent until proven guilty" and "believe women" both have strong cases when forming personal judgement. I'm actually conflicted about where I stand in cases where the two are contradictory. That's why I'm not going to talk about those events. What I can comfortably criticise, is Evilore's ridiculous responses to these situations. Time after time his response to criticism has been pathetic, and I don't use the word lightly, they are clearly the actions and words of a man whose ego is fragile, who lashes out when his ego is threatened, and whose responses are designed to silence his critics rather than face them or, god forbid, reflect on his behaviour.

Unless this is all Evilore conducting these bans of dissenting opinions, then those mods who have chosen to stay clearly share his values. And even if it is all Evilore, then the remaining mods are complicit in his behaviour. The head of the fish is rotten, this forum is in chaos now but when the dust settles it will be heading to a dark place.