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The Times: PSP launch a big success

Izzy

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I was flicking through the business section of the Times today, to see was there any news on broadband updates and to my surprise one of articles was on the successful launch of the PSP. Well, what’s going on?

Dominic Rushe said:
Manhattan's Union Square had sold out of the $250 devices. It was a story that repeated itself across the country and one that must have Sony executives rubbing their hands with glee.
 
My theory is the newspapers all budgeted this story based on the PS2 experience. My newspaper had a big headline on this too. Their source for the huge sellout: A Target store that received 60 units and had 15 people in line when the store opened. They called back at 3:00 P.M. and the were told they had 40 units remaining, but expected all to be gone by close of business :lol Their second source was a CompUSA that had gotten 10 units, sold 7 to preorders and the remaining three by noon. This was their sampling (And believe me, they struggled to get those). Because had they called anyone else (Specialty stores, the many Walmarts, Kmarts, Targets, (even though they did) Toys R Us, Best Buy, Circuit City) their story would have sounded like shit when they all had dozens remaining the next day. Contrast this to the PS2 launch where their was a huge photo of Best Buy where there were litterally hundreds in line to get in the store. So I put zero stock in anything I read. Although I'm sure NYC probably did have a lot of stores sell out.
 
Littleberu said:
BUT THERE ARE STILL PSP IN ST-LITTLE-MOUTAIN-GOERGES III TOWN'S ELECTRONIC SHOP!!!

I don't understand!

If that means the 3 or 4 cities that don't have a bumlike existence of mandatory public trasportation, okay.
 
Enigma said:
My theory is the newspapers all budgeted this story based on the PS2 experience. My newspaper had a big headline on this too. Their source for the huge sellout: A Target store that received 60 units and had 15 people in line when the store opened. They called back at 3:00 P.M. and the were told they had 40 units remaining, but expected all to be gone by close of business :lol Their second source was a CompUSA that had gotten 10 units, sold 7 to preorders and the remaining three by noon. This was their sampling (And believe me, they struggled to get those). Because had they called anyone else (Specialty stores, the many Walmarts, Kmarts, Targets, (even though they did) Toys R Us, Best Buy, Circuit City) their story would have sounded like shit when they all had dozens remaining the next day. Contrast this to the PS2 launch where their was a huge photo of Best Buy where there were litterally hundreds in line to get in the store. So I put zero stock in anything I read. Although I'm sure NYC probably did have a lot of stores sell out.

Ok. Thank god you're here!
 
Enigma said:
My theory is the newspapers all budgeted this story based on the PS2 experience. My newspaper had a big headline on this too. Their source for the huge sellout: A Target store that received 60 units and had 15 people in line when the store opened. They called back at 3:00 P.M. and the were told they had 40 units remaining, but expected all to be gone by close of business :lol Their second source was a CompUSA that had gotten 10 units, sold 7 to preorders and the remaining three by noon. This was their sampling (And believe me, they struggled to get those). Because had they called anyone else (Specialty stores, the many Walmarts, Kmarts, Targets, (even though they did) Toys R Us, Best Buy, Circuit City) their story would have sounded like shit when they all had dozens remaining the next day. Contrast this to the PS2 launch where their was a huge photo of Best Buy where there were litterally hundreds in line to get in the store. So I put zero stock in anything I read. Although I'm sure NYC probably did have a lot of stores sell out.

I put zero stock in anything you write. C- for damage control, with the only redeeming feature being that it's all based on anecdotal evidence. You could have at least made refernce to deal pixels or how well the DS sold in your area.
 
JackFrost2012 said:
"bumlike"?

If this arguement is gonna be throw in our faces, sure, I'll throw something equally inflammatory. I'm sick of people saying only the bumpkin parts aren't soldout. I'm sure there's more demand for NYC where cars are a luxury and people use mass transit, but what's with the insults? If the big city richfolk have so much demand, how come ebay prices completely suck? That's purely demand driven. Where are these rich cityfolk at? How come PS2 was 700 starting, but speculators on PSP are likely to lose a decent chunk after costs. The richens should have these prices going through the roof since there's so much demand there.
 
Enigma said:
If this arguement is gonna be throw in our faces, sure, I'll throw something equally inflammatory. I'm sick of people saying only the bumpkin parts aren't soldout. I'm sure there's more demand for NYC where cars are a luxury and people use mass transit, but what's with the insults? If the big city richfolk have so much demand, how come ebay prices completely suck? That's purely demand driven. Where are these rich cityfolk at? How come PS2 was 700 starting, but speculators on PSP are likely to lose a decent chunk after costs. The richens should have these prices going through the roof since there's so much demand there.

If there were only 300k PSPs at launch, you'd get your shortages and insane eBay prices, just like what happened in Japan. I don't see how selling 300k is better than selling 500k+ plus, though.
 
By the end of this weekend Sony reckons it will have sold out the 1m devices it has available in America. Inevitably, PSPs are already turning up on eBay and on Friday the online auction site was full of them. Surprisingly for a product that has had people lining up around the block, the devices were not attracting that much of a premium, selling for about $25 above the retail price. But it’s early days.

Source: Time Article

:lol

Are these people serious?! Last night at the Target store I work at, we still had 40 PSP units left out of the 60 units we got on Thursday! For the record, I live in Dallas. Not exactly a "bumlike" city.

More interesting, one of my co-workers purchased a PSP on day one. Since then, she has returned at least 4 of them, due to the pixel problems. So technically, my Target has not sold 20 Units, but more like 16 units.

As I understand it, this is the exact same situation everywhere else here in the Dallas area.
 
JackFrost2012 said:
I still don't understand how that makes city transportation "bumlike."
From my understanding, it means it puts more people on the streets walking around or, if it's like my city, there are a lot of bums who use the busses/trolleys.
 
This is the weirdest system launch ever. The insane screen nitpickers would drive me to violence if I worked in retail. Don't get me wrong, if I had shelled out the cash for a PSP, I'd damn well want the screen to be perfect. I just don't think I could handle someone coming back 4-5 times because of a single dead pixel or a little bit of dust behind the screen.
 
puck1337 said:
This is the weirdest system launch ever. The insane screen nitpickers would drive me to violence if I worked in retail. Don't get me wrong, if I had shelled out the cash for a PSP, I'd damn well want the screen to be perfect. I just don't think I could handle someone coming back 4-5 times because of a single dead pixel or a little bit of dust behind the screen.

Damn those pesky customers wanting to buy a product as advertised!
 
Huge success... And that's why there's dozens upon dozens sitting on the shelves at all the local stores here in NH.

Ya know, fiction can be fun, but when the DS launched, those were sold out all over the place around here.
 
Littleberu said:
You mean a LCD screen with normal defect?

The problem is that for the most part we're not talking about the technologically savvy people who would understand that sometimes LCD screens have defects. These are the mass market consumers who wrongly or rightly assume that a screen should be perfect.
 
i don't think it's the "mass market consumer" returning five psps. it sounds so like the message-board-reading loony.
 
drohne said:
i don't think it's the "mass market consumer" returning five psps. it sounds so like the message-board-reading loony.
If the PSP is the average consumer's first introduction to LCD technology.. I would think they'd be pretty pissed/shocked if they had never heard of a dead pixel before.
 
Littleberu said:
You mean a LCD screen with normal defect?

You realize you used the word 'defect'? As mentioned, the mass market consumer isn't aware of such normal defects in LCD, they likely own very few LCD products.
 
Littleberu said:
You mean a LCD screen with normal defect?

Interesting logic here. I have a Thomson drive Xbox I need to unload off somebody are you interested?

Sony manufacturing 2nd rate quality gaming products is absolutely nothing new. There ARE better LCD manufacturers and there ARE ways of implementing a better quality control for those screens. Sony just chooses not to. Nothing new for SCEA.
 
For God's sake, do none of you neanderthals understand the connection between SUPPLY and DEMAND. It's not Supply OR Demand, it is AND, they are CONNECTED.

... ... ...

I give up.
 
Ahh... the DS launch... I remember that well, half huddled behind the electronics counter of Target pulling box after box out until at last none were left to give.

"But I just have to have something for christmas!" they would explain.

Oh.. wait.. could it be? Did Nintendo just make an excellent decision? Launching a new system in time for the holidays?

Yes the DS sold better at launch, it was also made available at a time when people are much more likely to shell out what they'd consider a lot of money for something so trivial. (Not that the DS is trivial but most moms and dads view it as such)

The best I could offer for the PSP is it'd make a great Easter present. That assumes several things. That you celebrate Easter and the idea of dropping $250 plus games and accessories for an Easter present is acceptable.

I'm here in Columbus and the Target I work at has plenty of PSPs left. I won't argue if the PSP is better than the DS or anything like that, but I will say that it seems like Nintendo picked a better time to launch the DS, and as a result Sony's hurt a little bit, because parents who just bought a DS at christmas are unlikely to buy a PSP for Easter.
 
eBay is the ultimate measure of supply and demand, since it is a 100% free economy there. Since the PSP prices on eBay are hardly more than the retail stores, it just shows that supply > demand at this point. This is not necessarily bad at all, but some sony fanboys expecting a total sell out launch and everyone talking of nothing but the greatness of psp have been disappointed nevertheless. Fact is most people don't care about handheld gaming.
 
Littleberu said:
You mean a LCD screen with normal defect?


Seriously dude calm down. I know everyone nitpicking about the screen is a serious dig against you... I guess I don't understand, your attitude is like you spent months in your basement handcrafting each individual screen. Normal Defect? My laptop one dead pixel, my lcd monitor none, psp... 13 stuck and dead pixels, this isn't a normal defect, this a serious manufacturing flaw. Thank god I exchanged mine and got a perfect screen on the new unit, cause you can bet your ass I would have gone back and exchanged it again.
 
The main seller of the PSP is that screen, those graphics, and movies. Yet Sony sticks a menu screen on the retail box, barely show the system in commercials, and didn't even give out playable kiosks to retailers. Nintendo at least had dual head-to-head DS kiosk play a month or so before launch. When I went out on my day off on Friday to check out the PSP, I was kinda pissed that no one had any playable units on display, at least I managed to get myself a few games for my xbox :D


And yeah, the PSP will likely be the first time people are introduced to the dead-pixel problem and yes there will be many (attempted) returns.
 
Drinky Crow said:
Lookit that Nintendo handheld marketshare just crumble away...

Man, playing Zelda on the PS3 is gonna OWN.
Do you ever find that you are the actual cause of your own boredom? I mean, it must get pretty tiring posting the way you do. Nothing you post ever seems to have any substance at all.... I certainly get bored reading them and I've got to imagine the person writing them does too.
 
Gaia Theory said:
Do you ever find that you are the actually cause of your own boredom? I mean, it must get pretty tiring posting the way you do. Nothing you post ever seems to have any substance at all.... I certainly get bored reading them and I've got to imagine the person writing them does too.

Personally, I like how Drinky only writes a few words and it makes nerds write many.
 
Gaia Theory said:
Do you ever find that you are the actually cause of your own boredom? I mean, it must get pretty tiring posting the way you do. Nothing you post ever seems to have any substance at all.... I certainly get bored reading them and I've got to imagine the person writing them does too.

Drawing attention to him only strengthens his resolve. Inevitably the people like DC end up becoming what they hate yet try to justify it using a circle logic. The people who root him on probably do more to deflate him than the ones who stand against what he says. There is an ignore function you can utilize. Its called don't give a damn.
 
DS launch threads = "how come that shit can sell so much??"
PSP launch threads = "how come this things is not selling more?"

Gamers = funny
 
You CAN'T ignore me. Oh, how you try -- your little fanboy will steeled against the slings and arrows of my pervasive agenda -- but in the end, there's always tears, and puffy little mitts hammering keys in impotent rage.

Just wait until the next big Nintendogs thread. I'll be there, waiting, in the future.
 
Sho Nuff said:
Personally, I like how Drinky only writes a few words and it makes nerds write many.
As if anyone on these boards isn't a nerd - reality check - you are on and active in an internet forum! :lol

Drinky - perpetually said:
Nintendo sucks.
Usually you are much more witty and humorous then what I've quoted, and I personally appreciate it, but in all seriousness - you must get bored with the schtick once in a while.
 
Gaia Theory said:
As if anyone on these boards isn't a nerd - reality check - you are on and active in an internet forum! :lol

Maybe you, Poindexter. Me, I gots bitches on my jock like white on rice.
 
Wyzdom said:
DS launch threads = "how come that shit can sell so much??"
PSP launch threads = "how come this things is not selling more?"

no matter how the ds and psp sell, those are always going to be good questions.
 
Gaia Theory said:
As if anyone on these boards isn't a nerd - reality check - you are on and active in an internet forum! :lol

Wrong, A VIDEOGAME MESSAGE BOARD ON THE INTERNET.
 
While I still believe that having enough units to go around is good, it's worth noting that the European launch was pushed back to make more units available for North America. So Sony clearly thought the demand here was significant enough to sell one million units quickly.

Tight supply in Japan months after the launch, unavailable in Europe, and retail stores in America cluttered with the things? If the first shipment doesn't sell through in a couple of weeks, Sony screwed up.
 
Does it matter how many units Sony sells in the first 48 hours? A year from now, when the DS is on life support and we're all playing our PSPs, won't these early arguments seem rather insignificant?

History will vindicate the PSP supporters - why not join the winning side today?
 
It truly is sad that after all these years, people still choose to argue over which system is better - as if there are sides to be on.

If you game, competition is a good thing. Better prices (hopefully), more choices, more games.

Why we are all still stuck in the 'genesis does what nintendon't' era is beyond me. Most of us on here should be old enough to know that games themselves, not hardware, is why we spend so much of our money on the hobby.

That said, message boards across the internet just wouldn't be as 'exciting' if people didn't constantly bitch, moan and deride console x versus console y.
 
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