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It would not be a accurate to say that everyone voting leave is a bigot but it would be entirely accurate to say that everyone voting leave has emboldened bigots. You are all disgusting cunts. Absolute cunts.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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Spirit of Jazz
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So what happens when a victorious campaign led by xenophobia doesn't decrease the amount of "immigrants" on the street? Do people who supported it for xenophobic reasons actually educate themselves on what's actually been causing their problems and how they can resolve them or do they continue to take the simple rout and get even angrier at the scapegoated minorities they're targeting?
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This is the reality for Britain. I hope we all understand this.
Phantast2k
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Ok, say no more.
And suddenly:
So all you Brexiteers saw @DanHannanMEP on #newsnight right? Free movement etc? You're not getting the deal you thought you were. Oops.
Remarkable! Daniel Hannan MEP just said on @BBCNewsnight that he is not against free movement of labour, just EU citizenship. @EvanHD aghast
Where you at, Brexiters? :O
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No, it clearly shows the financial difference the market has set between remain and leave. Being caught off-guard actually gives us a better figure because the market was as you said almost certain we'd remain.
-Plasma Reus-
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That's nice, and I hope it is true. But the EU is rumoured to be working hard to trigger article 50 by itself. It wants the UK to go, it has made that clear.
LoveCake
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I think this is the likely outcome, the 'Leave' didn't think they would win so didn't plan this/that far ahead.
Most of the morons have yet to grasp this. The U.K. has relatively little comparative advantage.
Relaxed Muscle
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That was clearly a motivated political misguided and shotsighted effort. True. Left-wing parties couldn't gain more traction in Europe, so they chooked Greece to avoid that. They could have easily took the economic hit, but the political german move was given priority.
This is a more rational political and economic deal. EU needs to protect the union or otherwise the continent will be thrown into an socialeconomic chaos. If that means giving the UK a very bad deal, so be it.
They were the ones that voted against reason and common sense.
What a cluster fuck. No wonder markets are "uncertain".
I think I might speculate on bangers and mash - I think they've bottomed out.
Joke post?
TheExecutive
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Driving into work this morning listening to NPR I literally yelled "WHAT?!" twice. What a time we live in. Will be interesting to see what happens over the next year. Ultimately, I don't think it will be a good thing but also won't be nearly as bad as some folks think.
Gemüsepizza
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This will not happen. The EU will not accept this in any way.
Audioboxer
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Hopefully that last two sentences of yours are aimed at the bigots. While I am empathising with you and agreeing I can't get behind totally smearing someone who isn't a bigot or racist for voting leave. I might be able to argue they are careless or voting without good merit but I can't justify just calling them all cunts.
Just saying I'm not trying to rile you up. Really just don't want everyone hating everyone, blindly. That's how the bigots behave
So we didn't have any choice basically. Do you want more Europe or more Europe?
69% participation is quite good actually.
Moreover, Europe isn't the main and only topic for Presidential elections. You know how it is.
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
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QFT.
This has been about a lot more than just immigration.
There has been a complete fracture between our politicians and vast swathes of the populace.
Monty Mole
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and everyone born in the UK during the EEC/EU membership period.. we were born in the EU, we should be entitled to keep an EU passport. Leave voters should be exempt though
I don't see how they can possibly get away with not triggering Article 50, though. The UK government is now facing pressure from both the majority of their country and the EU to do so. Is the hope that everyone just forgets Leave won?
And_Gignac
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Capitalism is so fragile. Poor it.
We in northern Ireland already have that. Well, so long as ROI stays in.
geordiemp
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Yup. threaten with the stick always works better than encourage with the peace offering...
Oh wait.....!
Coriolanus
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You assume the people in charge of the EU want what's best for the EU.
The debacle with Greece made it clear that that couldn't be further from the truth.
You mistook threats for analysis and cold rationality.
That's on you.
Do elaborate. What's the people in charge of the EU's objective function, and how does it impact the incentives to punish the UK?
This isn't "Who's Line Is It Anyway". This isn't a game.
SmoothOperator
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The EU lovers here have apparently no problem with how Greece is treated and how it's basically the EU that is condemning an entire generation to misery but hey they're in the EU after all.
Portugal is next but hey they have the membership card after all...
An organization threatening you with the harshest sanctions and retaliations if you want to leave it : Some would rightfully call it a sect.
2016 People : If you want your soveireignity and the control of your borders you're the reincarnation of the nazis, talk about some hyperbole...
Portugal is next but hey they have the membership card after all...
An organization threatening you with the harshest sanctions and retaliations if you want to leave it : Some would rightfully call it a sect.
2016 People : If you want your soveireignity and the control of your borders you're the reincarnation of the nazis, talk about some hyperbole...
what if we never leave and just turn up drunk to all the meetings
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More Fun To Compute
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Deciding not to have good relations with the UK in order to apply a sticking plaster to a short term political problem is not short sighted?
Once you have paid him the Danegeld you never get rid of the Dane.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Funny how shooting yourself in both feet can make any system fragile.
The EU treatment of Greece was a warning to the European Left. The EU treatment of the UK will be a warning to the European Right.
Can you be a bit more specific? What is the better alternative you think the EU can pursue in the interest of preserving the EU.
jakonovski
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It'll be cordial business. Just one where the UK pays more than before, to offset the extra hassle of having to deal with a non-EU nation.
I hope you do realize you are basing your reactions on emotions instead of logic, right?
Do you really think the EU is ruled by emotions instead of logic?
Boy Wander
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Honestly, it's this sentiment that people who voted Leave are all morons that paints people like you as arrogant twats. The UK is the fifth biggest economy in the world, is one of only 2 countries in Europe with a strong military and is a member of NATO. Get out of here with your ill informed condescending shit.
It is known that French people are for more Europe (the issue in 2004 was not for more or less but what kind).
If the French people wanted less Europe they could have gone Villier, Lepen, Laguiller or one of the other jokers.
In 2012 they could have gone with Lepen, Melenchon, Poutou, Dupont Aignan, Arthaud.
they had the choice they just preferred staying.
The no movement from 2004 died and lost in the end, deal with it and move on Melenchon.
and why Melenchon? Because that fucker is STILL raising the corpse of that referendum like it means something today.
-Plasma Reus-
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No one can force the UK to do business with the EU.
Maybe Scotland will finally get it's independence after centuries.
But otherwise this is going to cause issues globally. Any global company heavy in USD is going to lose quite a bit of earnings in the currency exchange.
But otherwise this is going to cause issues globally. Any global company heavy in USD is going to lose quite a bit of earnings in the currency exchange.
Relaxed Muscle
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Sorry, but I don't get it.
You want to be out of the EU while having the same benefits as being in the UE. Obviously UE won't allow that, and they will send that message to other countries.
Is not a threat, is a reality that EU will protect the market and interest of it's members (and those of the union) rather than of countries that aren't members.
In the same way you voted with the intention of protecting your own interests rather that those of the EU.
Double standards much?.
France overtook the UK today apparently.
PodcastFips
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This is a great day for Europe. Finally, we will return to the roots of what a European Union was always supposed to be - not a centralized political dictatorship.
He seems to be of the opinion that the UK has more negotiating leverage than the United States. No point entertaining such a person.
lol, it's not everything about the UK, you know.
I, for one, as a citizen of another EU member state, do sincerely hope that the EU takes sufficient measures and actions in what regards this issue. I'm not saying "we should isolate the UK blah blah", because it's unrealistic and undesirable for all, but there certainly needs to be some consequences. If in the end it happens that Germany also wants its "special" trade treaties with the UK and eventually nothing changes and the UK finds itself in the exact same position or even better (in detriment of the 27 other members), then the EU is a complete farce and I would start supporting my country to leave as well.
I know plenty of people who feel this way too, so what the EU decides to do in the following months/years is very important and will likely determine the future of the Union as a whole.
RedSparrows
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Not that I wish to condone the condescension, but the point of this is that Leaving changes the context in which Britain is at work. It could no longer be the 5th largest, for instance.
We do not have some innate power and right to be successful.
As did California, but I think that was only for a short time (for both)
Yep!
He honestly believes he can have his cake and eat it, too.
It reminds me of those people that really, really wish they could buy car insurance only precisely when they crash.
You called the EU's bluff. Pray that they are weak and acquiesce.
'Shitty health system'? Have you been to England? Clearly not if you regard it as 'shitty'. It's one of the best in the world and we're proud of it, we just want to make it better and not see it dismantled.
Inline with Maastricht but nothing spectacular either.
Europe IS absolutely the main topic of the Presidential elections, if the media and the politicians don't want to talk about it, it's on them.
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