Yup, Cornwall and Wales are having a laugh, including the Northwest of England if they're getting jack from Westminster.
All the money for the next decade will need to be pumped into London to save our economy.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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Yup, Cornwall and Wales are having a laugh, including the Northwest of England if they're getting jack from Westminster.
All the money for the next decade will need to be pumped into London to save our economy.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
I was sharing it because someone asked, don't actually believe it'll change anything.
(maybe make Cameron a bit happier, poor sod needs it)
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They were affected by cuts, cuts and more cuts, so they voted for even more cuts?
mentality as soon as it was announced for a referendum i knew most of the town would vote leave
geordiemp
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Yeah, there is albania, Crotatia, Boznia, Kosovo and macedonia, serbia and turkey to join as members.
Some in UK thought EU was out of control and trying too hard to include too divergent levels of economies.......I guess we will find out probably sooner rather than later.
Sometimes you look at the troubled waters EU is steering and makes me not so sure and makes Greece look not so much an issue....
Oh I agree, but that is a different discussion. There is the welsh assembly. Cornwall has already made a claim lol
They should call in Xzibit
-Plasma Reus-
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What's this about Obama threatening the UK? When did he do this?
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
yep dont ask why
jellies_two
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This is my feeling too, I don't know if it's a guaranteed success, it might very well be more risky than stay, but hell at least the country becomes fully responsible for its own destiny.
Countries in nafta and ASEAN don't surrender their sovereign powers to external laws and seem to manage quite well. Is the UK so sick that it needs the EU to prop it up?
said we'd go to the back of the line if we left the EU. Didn't go down very well.
said today that we're still cool though. Who knows.
Boy Wander
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Yeah if they ever get around to sorting out their frankly fucking crackpot gun laws, we should send Boris over to preach to them about how if they don't change, more people will die. That should go down well with middle America. Obama should have kept his fucking beak out.
GamerMax73
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Any of our ex-EU partners accepting political refugees? I want out, fast.
Bobnob
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No i don't and i'm not about to go looking but i have seen it, my wife works in the care industry and as told me on many occasion about people turning up not knowing what to do. I myself was on a SIA Security course were the none english speakers were given answers (cant remember if a fee was involved).If you think i'm pulling that out of my arse then thats up to you pal.
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Yoooo! :O
What does this mean? Is it bad?
RedSparrows
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At a time of austerity, which apparently the electorate bought, I guess it was presumed we'd pump billions into regional infrastructure projects to replace the EU?
Lolz.
This is so simplistic. It's already responsible for its own destiny, as evidenced by the fact, not the result of the referendum. Sovereign powers are always negotiated and traded, and will be no less in whatever world we find for Britain now. The pretence that we were dominated by an EU superstate to the point of having no self-government is simply not the reality. Yeah, the EU has some really shit elements, but straight up lying about it is shit too.
He said we'd be at the back of the line for trade negotiations or something along those lines.
More a statement of fact based on our relative importance than a threat
Relaxed Muscle
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Is not a threat, is a reality.
The whole EU project relies in the fact that countries united in economic terms are stronger and have a bigger bargain in trading negotations. When you are alone, that bargain is lost.
Is about money, EU is a much bigger and important market that requires full attention unlike UK alone. No one told you what you had to do, just to be aware of the consequences of your vote.
-Plasma Reus-
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I'll be frank with you, nothing indicates you should. There is a sizeable portion of the population that should make you feel uncomfortable.
GHG
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If it comes to roost, then yes it is bad.
I'm half German, but lived in UK my entire life. Have never felt less British and less welcome than today, it's depressing as hell. Don't want to leave because this is my home, but at the moment am not seeing much of a future here for my family or my gf (shes Spanish)
It's petty but am now really hoping Northern Ireland/Iceland tear Wales/England a new one in the football next week (as well as all the other bad stuff thats now going to happen). Closed minded twats.
It's petty but am now really hoping Northern Ireland/Iceland tear Wales/England a new one in the football next week (as well as all the other bad stuff thats now going to happen). Closed minded twats.
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
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That still isn't a racist sentiment.
That said, by and large, pretty much all the Polish immigrants I've met have made efforts to integrate into the broader community and learn to speak English well.
Maybe he is concerned his child's development or education will be harmed in some way? That's the sort of concern parents have, even if they sometimes prove to be unfounded.
Boy Wander
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No it's the interfering twat trying to tell us what to do. Or at least, that's how a lot of people interpreted his ill timed intervention.
Relaxed Muscle
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Nothing he said today really contradicts what he said months ago.
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Yes. Turkey's economic association with the EU is a customs union, excepting essential economic areas such as agriculture, services and public procurement. The UK is mostly a service economy, and it mostly sells to Europe; hence excepting those is tantamount to just treating the UK like an unrelated country. This isn't even the Norway model, this is the hard ball.
he's good at this politics stuff
England is under the assumption that you can vote for the (anti-immigrant) right and still get leftwing economic policies. They are mistaken.
Silent Chief
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The vote was 52/48, but the real economists were pretty much unanimous that leaving would devastate the UK economy. Now, after the fact, the ones in the UK have to tone it done because the majority will just change the channel anyway.
gutter_trash
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LoL at the voters having 'buyer's remorse' today now demanding for a redo
CheDominik
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Of course it's incredibly anecdotal but I know a lot of Polish families and they are hardworking, humble and incredibly willing to integrate(my parents even completely assimilated and didn't speak one word of Polish at home). This kind of anti-Polish sentiment truly hits close to home.
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For those who don't know what this means:
Up until now, people were hoping the worst thing the EU would do to the UK was to offer them a Norwegian deal (which is very likely to happen), where the UK will have to adhere to EU regulations, and have no say in it, if they want access to the single market. But this is looking worse.
EU might not have mercy or give the UK some kind of bonus because they were once friends for a long time
Means they simply don't get it. They think the problem is connected with the UK, not the EU. It won't reform itself in the nearest future. They don't have balls.
I wonder what will happen with all those European PM. Will they get some extra money if they lose their jobs?
Dash_Riprock
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If the UK thinks their "Special Relationship" with the US will help get good trade compared to the EU they are in for a rude awakening.
geordiemp
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There is a danger of tit for tat revenge here, can you imagine countries start boycotting others products because of all this spite and anger. I cannot see this ending well.
What is it with all the chest pounding going on.
Sorry, I don't really understand. Could you explain it in the way you would for someone voting Leave for immigration?
Seriously, can you explain in laymen terms?
EDIT: above helped a bit more
He said before that the special relationship of the U.S. and UK would remain. But said that the U.K. would naturally be at the back of the line for trade deals due to its much smaller size relative to the EU.
Said again that the special relationship is still cool.
No contradiction.
Damn. Although this could also be partly rhetoric to silence other anti-EU voices for now.
It depends on your definition of "British Identity". If it's a fixed quantity then you are basically telling people to eat fish and chips or gtfo. I personally feel that muticulturalism has shaped our identity, for the better.
Not sure how other students can affect your own's studies-it's individual merit. But I didn't ask that question
That's not common, nor do we even know for a fact this is the case.
I have a feeling a lot of these "stories" are from people voting to remain that basically wanna do and say anything at all to get a revote. Not going to happen sugar.
Audioboxer
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well little did he know we love waiting in a queue.
Is it bad that I hope they do this?
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
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Unless people have already started chasing you up the street threatening to throw you out I think you are being a bit knee-jerky and silly.
I'm sure both of you will find your friends will still be your friends and I'm sure your colleagues will still work with you.
Can you see the irony of calling a whole nation closed minded twats?
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The EU should take the harshest stance for the good of the union, but at the same time I feel bad for this country and the 49% who didn't want this.
Relaxed Muscle
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You are clearly mistaken if you think that whatever deal EU makes with UK in terms of tradings comes from revenge. Is all politics and money.
Unlike how people in the UK voted yesterday, EU will act in a rational way. If that ends being bad for UK, well, is what you decided. But it won't be out of revenge.
2017 is an election year and the CDU has a problem with being seen as "soft". I expect unusual harshness to appease the Protestwähler.
This is international diplomacy. Rhetoric and action are the same thing. If they want to stem the tide, it's not enough to talk about how bad the deal is going to be. They need to actually offer you a really bad deal.
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