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The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings |OT| Plough 'Em All

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Chinner

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okay anyway putting stupid console bullshti aside, just completed chapter 1.
choice roche because he seems pretty fucking chill. lethos has kidnapped my woman. the opening for chapter 2i s pretty great, with the confrontation with saskia, and then escorting the king out of the eclipse.
 

Totobeni

An blind dancing ho
Ok I need more Witcher in my life ( the fiction is just too good),I am getting the Last Wish and Blood of Elves,but is Hexer ( the live action movie) any good?
 

gokieks

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AEREC said:
I hope they have an expansion for this that takes you back to Khaer Moren...In Witcher 1 I had quests that mentioned going back and talking to Vesimer and I thought I would be able to by the end of the first witcher.

There's actually an officially released addon adventure for The Witcher 1, The Price of Neutrality, that is set in Kaer Moren and involves Sabrina Glevissig (the same one who appears, sort of, in The Witcher 2). It's included in The Witcher EE along with another official adventure and some fan-created ones.
 

njean777

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Just beat the game, great story.
Chose to go the path with Iorveth, didn't really like Roche as he was to HUMAN HUMAN HUMAN, so went with Iorveth and didn't feel bad at all about my choice. Did not see the sorceress's being behind most of the the stuff that did happen in the game. Ended up saving Trish, because how could I trust the other sorceress. She took over saskia's mind and that just wasn't cool with me. Ended up letting the dragon live, as I knew it was saskia and she did not deserve to die. In the end killed Letho as he was just a bastard, his intentions were good, but he went to the total wrong way of accomplishing them.
All in all can not wait for a third one, will be interested to see where the story goes from here.
 
Finally finished this earlier today. Fairly disappointed, given how much I loved the first (alot). The production values are so stunningly good, but the actual mechanics of combat are stultifyingly awful; I mean, it wasn't quite as bad as Dragon Age II (which cost me a Das Keyboard from frustrated desk smashing) but it was in the same league. Fights veer from trivial to impossible, the game demands metagaming with either constant bombing or dodge rolling to kite, the controls are horribly laggy and unresponsive, knockdowns pulling you out of control, yada yada. Even drinking a potion takes forever, when you're actually given the chance to know a priori that you'll need one before that big fight they spring on you after a non-interactive cutscene. This stuff seems so obvious, too, total kleenex testing triage material. What creative director puts out a game where one of the fundamental mechanics of combat involves you watching an animation of a guy drinking and then wiping his forehead every. single. time. you need to do it? Usually the answer is, a dude who thinks he's making a movie. "It's gotta be cinematic!" It's a game. Let me drink the potion and get on with the actual game playing part, ffs. Would be curious to sit in on their postmortem and see what went wrong with the design department and whether it was just them running out of time.
 
Does anyone know how I can obtain the song in from the game
when you and Triss are getting it on in the elven fountains?

Probably my favorite song in the game, so peaceful. I found it nowhere in the soundtrack I received from my GoG preorder.
 

Red

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sersteven said:
Does anyone know how I can obtain the song in from the game
when you and Triss are getting it on in the elven fountains?

Probably my favorite song in the game, so peaceful. I found it nowhere in the soundtrack I received from my GoG preorder.
Could be wrong, but is it this song?

That's my favorite, anyway.

I just tried getting back into The Witcher, as I'd only played 7 hours of it before starting TW2. It's so hard. It just makes me want to go back to the sequel. There's more to do, which is a strength, but there's less density to the quests. A lot of fluff. And the combat -- ugh.

I want to finish it, but I keep wanting to play it like I played TW2: sitting back with a controller, taking in the beautiful world.

Typically I'm not a shallow gamer, and while I value graphics they aren't something that's essential to an experience. But after playing TW2, it's such a clearly massive leap over the first game that it's jarring to go back. Here's Zoltan from both games:





The more I play the first game, the more I want to stop waiting for 2.0 and finish up my Roche playthrough of TW2 :s
 

Complistic

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It's not that, and it's not in the bonus soundtrack that comes with the game either. I know which one he's talking about, it reminded me of circus music. Totally awesome. Which considering how she's undressing is perfect.
 

Van Buren

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Crunched said:
Typically I'm not a shallow gamer, and while I value graphics they aren't something that's essential to an experience. But after playing TW2, it's such a clearly massive leap over the first game that it's jarring to go back. Here's Zoltan from both games:

For a game built on the ancient Aurora engine, it looks fantastic for a 2007 game. It's mostly due to the art direction, though.

I mean, it could have looked a lot worse:
kell-01-ch1-beggar.jpg


And way back when it was announced, I remember it looking underwhelming in light of the releases in 2004:
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The Witcher 1 we got has some incredibly beautiful panoramic views, in comparison.
 

Red

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That's true, but I'm not comparing it to games of the same period. It might be unfair toward the game, but it's difficult for me to go back to it after seeing the same characters and similar places rendered in the RED engine.

The environments can often look very good, still. The lighting is weak, but the scenery is nice. But it suffers when things get more personal.

A lot of the mechanics simply feel dated after the sequel. Like poor indications of where to go next for quests, cluttered inventory, and horribly boring clickfest combat. It's no less of a game than what it was back then, but TW2 is better. Much better.
 
Finally finished Act II today, and I don't really know how some of you could finish the entire chapter in under 15 hours. It took me around 25ish hours to get through it, and there were still two side quests that were open.

The very beginning of Act III is beautiful. One of the most panoramic views in the entire game with the snowy mountains. I let Roche kill the king because the crowned bastard was a prick.

How much more game do I have left? I want to get this out of the way before Deus Ex: HR
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Lasthope106 said:
How much more game do I have left? I want to get this out of the way before Deus Ex: HR

Literally less than an hour (give or take) if you skip sidequests.
 

Solo

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Lasthope106 said:
Finally finished Act II today, and I don't really know how some of you could finish the entire chapter in under 15 hours. It took me around 25ish hours to get through it, and there were still two side quests that were open.

The very beginning of Act III is beautiful. One of the most panoramic views in the entire game with the snowy mountains. I let Roche kill the king because the crowned bastard was a prick.

How much more game do I have left? I want to get this out of the way before Deus Ex: HR


You have maybe 4 hours left.
 
Do I suck at the game or is combat just really hard? Seems like every big encounter I have had so far, I am extremely weaker than my opponent. Eventually after many deaths I figure out a cheap way to win but I was hoping for a better time. I am facing
Letho
now and getting my ass kicked. When I do really well I can get him down to around half of his life it seems.

Is there any way to recover health during a fight besides regeneration? If I buy food from the inn, can I eat it and regain health?
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
Quick question about the ending:

Is there anything symbolic about the Ladybug on the waterwheel?

Mind blown at some of the stuff in this last page of the thread: I really enjoyed The Price of Neutrality add-on for Witcher 1, but totally forgot the plot details and that the sorceress was Sabrina Glevissig! Also WOW (in a bad way) at that early Witcher 1 shot! Any more of those? I love seeing prototype screens.
 
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njean777 said:
Just beat the game, great story.
Chose to go the path with Iorveth, didn't really like Roche as he was to HUMAN HUMAN HUMAN, so went with Iorveth and didn't feel bad at all about my choice. Did not see the sorceress's being behind most of the the stuff that did happen in the game. Ended up saving Trish, because how could I trust the other sorceress. She took over saskia's mind and that just wasn't cool with me. Ended up letting the dragon live, as I knew it was saskia and she did not deserve to die. In the end killed Letho as he was just a bastard, his intentions were good, but he went to the total wrong way of accomplishing them.
All in all can not wait for a third one, will be interested to see where the story goes from here.

These were the exact same choices I made. I really hope the third game takes off from here and incorporates what I did... I want to see if the choices I made were "right."

I was talking to a friend of mine, who played Roche's path and
I was very surprised to hear the choices he made (killed the dragon) because he didn't have the full information about Saskia. I guess Roche's path plays that out entirely different, so he felt it was justified to kill the dragon. This game has so much going for it. I am playing the Roche way now, but only just starting chapter 2.
 

Red

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Bumblebeetuna said:
Do I suck at the game or is combat just really hard? Seems like every big encounter I have had so far, I am extremely weaker than my opponent. Eventually after many deaths I figure out a cheap way to win but I was hoping for a better time. I am facing
Letho
now and getting my ass kicked. When I do really well I can get him down to around half of his life it seems.

Is there any way to recover health during a fight besides regeneration? If I buy food from the inn, can I eat it and regain health?
The Letho fight is the toughest in the game outside of the final boss.

Your "cheap" ways to win shouldn't be considered illegitimate. Spam bombs and traps and buff on potions for every major encounter, that's the purpose of them.

It all gets much, much easier once you level up a bit.
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
My main choices:

First playthrough, Iorveth's path:
-Chose Iorveth
-Spared Henselt
-Saved Triss instead of helping Iorveth
-Saved Sile
-Killed the dragon
-Let Letho go

Second playthrough, Roche's path:
-Chose Roche
-Had Roche kill Henselt
-Rescued the little girl instead of Triss
-Never bothered to switch the gem out to save Sile
-Let the impaled dragon live
-Defeated Letho
 
BadTaste105 said:
Pretty pissed off that I ordered TW2 yesterday for £24 and now it's down to £17 today, and my order is already dispatching. Meh.
Depending on where you ordered it and since it just dispatched, you could always immediately return/rebuy as long as free shipping were available, or hit up their customer service and ask for a refund since its so soon after the initial purchase.

I guess the track wasn't on the official OST. Do you guys think I'd have any luck if I hit up CDProjecktRed's support email and asked them if they had a copy of the MP3?

If I succeed I'd gladly share it with everyone.

Really need to finish my 3rd play-through one of these days....
 
Holy shit at the length of Act III. No real side quests other than the typical dice, arm wrestle stuff.

Everything else was awesome, but CD Projekt really missed the mark. Hopefully there will be some sort of expansion. I can't wait another 4 years for a proper sequel.
 
djtiesto said:
Is there anything symbolic about the Ladybug on the waterwheel?

The ladybug is a symbol of luck and love depending on the culture. Regarding luck, it's said that if one lands on you then your wish will come true. There's also an old wives tale which suggests that if you count the spots on the back of a ladybug which lands on you it signifies how long until you will be united with the one you love.
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
Lasthope106 said:
Holy shit at the length of Act III. No real side quests other than the typical dice, arm wrestle stuff.

Everything else was awesome, but CD Projekt really missed the mark. Hopefully there will be some sort of expansion. I can't wait another 4 years for a proper sequel.

there were at least three full-blooded sidequests. But not on Iorveth path.
 

BadTaste

Member
Graphics are amazing, although textures do seem inconsistent times. Tutorial pop-ups in the middle of fighting is annoying, but yeah enjoying it so far.
 
Finished!

35 hours of end to end quality. Far and away the best RPG I've played in recent times. No amount of praise and success is too much.

What a great job they did.
 
Finally finished the game, the 1st play-through. The game was absolutely superb, but I still maintain it wasn't as good as the 1st game.

In The Witcher 1, the consequences of the choices you make would come to haunt you in later parts of the game. There were a lot of cases where I thought that was going to happen in the sequel given the amount of dialog. And yet, there were very few cases of this happening.

Also, I feel importing your Witcher 1 file didn't have any major effects on the story, other than giving you a few items at the beginning.

The story ended on a high note, and I sure hope CD Projekt can deliver a sequel faster than what it took to create this game.

The ending sequence was confusing. Geralt touches the ladybug, and his companions and him leave the castle. After the credits roll, he appears looking back at the ruins.

Now with the criticisms out of the way, the parts that I enjoyed the most was the attention to detail in the entire game. Chapter 1 was the highlight, as it contained the most memorable quests. The characters are some of the best developed in any videogame, period.
 
cuevas said:
Now that we're talking about TW1, am I the only one who liked the first game better? I played them back to back.

I did. Geralt felt a lot more badass in the first game. The signs by end of the 1st game made you feel invincible, which I never felt in the sequel. It was a constant struggle to beat enemies.
 
Lasthope106 said:
I did. Geralt felt a lot more badass in the first game. The signs by end of the 1st game made you feel invincible, which I never felt in the sequel. It was a constant struggle to beat enemies.

I played through on both Normal and Hard and the back-end of the game becomes pretty easy. The start is the "toughest" part of the game imo.
 

Exuro

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Lasthope106 said:
I did. Geralt felt a lot more badass in the first game. The signs by end of the 1st game made you feel invincible, which I never felt in the sequel. It was a constant struggle to beat enemies.
Really? I feel that Quen is severly overpowered in TW2 and near the beginning of the game at that. I was able to get through all of the boss fights without taking damage because of it. And by the end of the game you become practically invincible compared to the beginning of it.

cuevas said:
Now that we're talking about TW1, am I the only one who liked the first game better? I played them back to back.
Yeah I overall enjoyed the first one more. It's story was better and had one of the most satisfying ending to a game. TW2 obviously does a lot of things better but I doesn't have that magic that TW1 had imo.
 
cuevas said:
Now that we're talking about TW1, am I the only one who liked the first game better? I played them back to back.

I do too, although the second game is definitely one of the most amazing games I've ever played.

There are a whole lot of small mechanical hurdles in TW1 which add a level of complexity and authenticity to the world that's missing from TW2. Stuff like having to carry flint around with you to start a campfire if you want to meditate, while occasionally annoying, adds to the immersion in my opinion. This is also the case with alchemical bases, in that they're just bottles of hooch which you can drink and get drunk off if you so choose.

On that note, alchemy in general was a lot better in the first game, and not because you could use White Raffard's Decoction, with healthy doses of White Honey, to cheese your way through a lot of fights. Every potion felt meaningful and useful. Then you had the material dominance system which made it possible to cleverly tweak your potion crafting to, for example, allow the ingestion of additional potions by making your Swallow have dominant albedo to minimise toxicity, or instead increase its effect with dominant rubedo.

And oils seemed a lot more necessary, which I liked.

Then there's all the little things which add "charm", many of which I think were a product of CDProjekt getting frustrated with the engine they had licensed. For example, the dialogue with the ferryman who takes you to and from the swamp seems like an inside joke about the clunkiness of the process; you talk to him, he asks you if you want to catch the ferry; you say you want to catch the ferry, then click OK to confirm that you want to spend orens; then he'll ask you again if you want to go, whereupon Geralt snaps at him about how many times he's asked that question.

So yeah, I love TW2 to bits but at the end of the day I still go home to TW1.
 

Chinner

Banned
Solo said:
Roche path?
Yeah I'm with Roche, he's my bro.
I beat him and all of his men up in fist-fighting, and had a chance to sex Ves after beating her in a tournament although I aint sleeping with any hoes while my waifu Triss is still missing
.
 

Tokubetsu

Member
Chinner said:
Yeah I'm with Roche, he's my bro.
I beat him and all of his men up in fist-fighting, and had a chance to sex Ves after beating her in a tournament although I aint sleeping with any hoes while my waifu Triss is still missing
.

Then you're not doing the Roche path right.
You know what they say about area codes right? Or in this case, different sides of a magical haunted cursed battlefield.
 

Dries

Member
Wow! I thought the general consensus was that TW2 was better than TW1! :eek: Does everybody here think that TW1 is better?
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
Dries said:
Wow! I thought the general consensus was that TW2 was better than TW1! :eek: Does everybody here think that TW1 is better?

it does some things better than TW2 but TW2 does many thing better than TW1. It comes down to personal preference. I prefer TW2 in general. I think some choices were done much better in TW2. The general plot and writing is also much better. But TW1 felt more personal. It was all about Geralt. Some people like this more.

TW2 is basically what Mass Effect franchise should have been. TW1 is more like a classic RPG.
 

Data West

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Dries said:
Wow! I thought the general consensus was that TW2 was better than TW1! :eek: Does everybody here think that TW1 is better?
Witcher 1 is incredibly overrated. It's just cool to like it because it's the older title. I guess people like bad cameras and awful combat. Also Geralt being a super self-insert quality level character instead of being medieval Batman like he was in 2.
 

subversus

I've done nothing with my life except eat and fap
Dries said:
Hmm what exactly do you mean by this?


-cinematic
-good writing
-choices matter and influence the plot
-area exploration
-RPG stats influence combat only
-social skills influence dialogues and are developed by choosing appropriate lines in dialogues
 

Micerider

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subversus said:
-cinematic
-good writing
-choices matter and influence the plot
-area exploration
-RPG stats influence combat only
-social skills influence dialogues and are developed by choosing appropriate lines in dialogues

You mean...sex, right?
 
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