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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt |OT2| Wanted to find Ciri, but everything Gwent wrong

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ryseing

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Doing the Family Matters quest (enemy spoilers).

You have to fight an undead baby? I have this thing about those creatures where they terrify the shit out of me. Bestiary description is not assuaging my fears.

Because of this, I'm going to ask an odd question that I would rather not be derided for.

Would someone be willing to Shareplay that fight for me? Dead serious. I'm loving the game but I might have to quit due to that fight. I have severe fear issues relating to that enemy type, and I'm not going to risk nightmares just for a game. PM me if you can help.
 
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Artanisix

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playing a sign build is the most fun way to play this game

nothing like blasting basilisks with a flamethrower or blowing up everyone with your force powers

"Doing the Family Matters quest (enemy spoilers)."

you don't have to fight it
 
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Obliterator

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Regret Upon Approval said:
You know.
You did the right thing. In one of the lore books you can find. It mentions the spirit is the Crones mother, killed and sealed away for being eviler than them and a right pain in everyone's arse.
Responsible for deaths while locked away, and Downwarren is fucked entirely if you release her.
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Ghostmaster said:
If only the book was telling the truth,
but it's not
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So did I make the better or worse choice, without spoilers lol. Or is there not really a better choice of the two? I believe someone said earlier either way fucked up stuff happens its just in different ways
 
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Ghostmaster

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ryseing said:
Doing the Family Matters quest (enemy spoilers).

You have to fight an undead baby? I have this thing about those creatures where they terrify the shit out of me. Bestiary description is not assuaging my fears.

Because of this, I'm going to ask an odd question that I would rather not be derided for.

Would someone be willing to Shareplay that fight for me? Dead serious. I'm loving the game but I might have to quit due to that fight. I have severe fear issues relating to that enemy type, and I'm not going to risk nightmares just for a game. PM me if you can help.
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You don't have to fight the baby

Obliterator said:
So did I make the better or worse choice, without spoilers lol. Or is there not really a better choice of the two? I believe someone said earlier either way fucked up stuff happens its just in different ways
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It really depends on who do you value more, and it's impossible to talk about that without spoilers.

The best I can do is - Your choice is subjectively better because it saves a more prominent character, but objectively it's probably worse.
 
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Sober

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ClayKavalier said:
The whole story is
the Baron met his wife when he was injured in combat and she was his nurse. They fell in love, he proposed, they were really happy. The Baron then had to go on leave and was sent to the frontline of a war. He couldn't handle the stress and became an alcoholic, and claims that letters from his wife were the only thing that kept him going.

When he returned home it turned out his wife had been cheating on him the entire time. She and her lover ran off and the Baron confronted them. He planned on trying to convince Anna to return home with him, but he ended up killing the lover. Anna was devastated and tried to kill the Baron, so he hit her to subdue her and took her home.

After that they were basically both broken people. The baron was depressed, alcoholic, and wished things would go back to the way they were before he went on leave. His wife feels hopeless after the guy she was in love with was murdered.

When his wife got pregnant the second time the thought of having another of the baron's children was sickening enough that she went to the Crones to see if they could get rid of it. She assumes they can just make her not pregnant somehow with magic, but instead they make her miscarry (contrary to Gies' review, that's the cause of the miscarriage, not the baron's abuse). The price for that service is her acting as the Crone's slave. She tries to run away from them, but they capture her and she becomes the Gran you meet in the Bog.

So yeah, nothing novel about it and it's pretty melodramatic at times with the magic curses and whatnot, but I can't think of a more grounded portrayal of a family affected by war in a video game, and seeing all that and coming to the conclusion that the game and its creators are misogynist really sells it short, as well as makes you look like a moron.



So many games writers have trouble making that distinction, which is weird since a lot of them studied English or film in college.

I think it's funny too how Gies takes offense that there's a "sympathetic" dialogue option in that scene. You really don't have that much control over Geralt's character, and even when you hear the baron's explanation out it's pretty damn obvious Geralt is disgusted by him.
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A little late but thanks for that. I think I skimmed the Polygon review and the criticisms of it and I must've mistakenly conflated
the miscarriage due to the domestic violence even though I clearly remember and the game explicitly tells you the crones made Anna miscarry.

Other than that yeah, I think the issues/themes the Witcher games have addressed through the quests is definitely much stronger than what most games dare to even try, and it sucks if people are either misinterpreting it or conflating the content with the creator way too strongly over thinking about it critically for a minute.
 
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Thatonemoor

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For fucks sake!I got one hit killed by a leshen when I nearly had full fucking health and he only hand a tiny sliver of health left!!!! Wtf! And my save file got corrupted again so now I have to go back to my last physical save! UGGGH!
 
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orthodoxy1095

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I don't understand why the content in Skellige is so low level. It's weird that the mission to get to the islands is like 16 and then the subsequent story missions are 13 and 14 so far.
 
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borborygmus

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Just completed the game.

It has some pretty big flaws: terrible controls; every step of every quest has you following a waypoint on the minimap which distracts you from the in-game world; the map doesn't have key locations so it's nearly impossible to find certain places and characters outside of quests.

Somehow, even with all of these flaws, this is the best game I've played in a while. The content quality is just exceptional for a game of this size, and the story and writing are really engrossing.

Now I'm sad that it's over. Very few games leave me feeling this way.
 
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RadioactiveLobster

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Sober said:
A little late but thanks for that. I think I skimmed the Polygon review and the criticisms of it and I must've mistakenly conflated
the miscarriage due to the domestic violence even though I clearly remember and the game explicitly tells you the crones made Anna miscarry.

Other than that yeah, I think the issues/themes the Witcher games have addressed through the quests is definitely much stronger than what most games dare to even try, and it sucks if people are either misinterpreting it or conflating the content with the creator way too strongly over thinking about it critically for a minute.
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The moral of the story is that you should ignore everything Arthur Gies says, it's what everyone else does.
 
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Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
Those viper swords I crafted in white orchid, can I upgrade those like the sets?
 
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foxtrot3d

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Obliterator said:
So did I make the better or worse choice, without spoilers lol. Or is there not really a better choice of the two? I believe someone said earlier either way fucked up stuff happens its just in different ways
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There is no better choice, each one results in consequences. Keep the spirit locked away and all the kids die by the Crones who eat them, release the tree spirit and Anna dies and the spirit destroys Downwarren.
 
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Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Just beat it.
Ciri lived, Nilfgaard won, I didn't end up with Triss or Yen cus I had sex with both.
Now I got nothing left to do. :(((
 
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LurkerPrime

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Man, people can be jerks. I enter a room in this manor, and the maid - currently brooming the floor - literally drops what she's doing and leaves. Just, bam, the broom's on the floor and she walks out, muttering about freaks. Witchers are people too, dammit! Didn't seem scripted or anything, either, which is what surprised me the most.

Anyways, the questlines and characters continue to be fantastic, midway through the game. Callbacks to previous games and the books are particular highlights. I appreciate how it references everything so organically, as if Geralt's known it all along, fully aware that there's a codex for people to catch up.
 
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Tigress

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Just finished the Baron's Quest. Already know what happens if you
kill the tree spirit vs. save it
. Still debating on which is better
I honestly think killing it is better. Kids die either way but a whole village also dies and even though Baron's explanation of why his marriage went south makes me sympathize with him less I still like the character
. But the choice I made before I knew which did which was the option I like least and part of me feels I should stick with the choice I made without knowing the consequences. Even if it was the worse choice in the end imho. Heh, this game is going to annoy me, I always want to be able to play the ultra good guy and it's going to annoy me not to be able to save everyone, heh. I'm enjoying the story so far though (I like it a lot better than the story in Witcher 2 but I think I was more lost on all the politics in Witcher 2) :).

I really like the character design/artwork of the
crones and the
voice work on them. I think who ever they got to voice act them did an excellent job and I really like the effects on their voice. The design reminds me of the russian fables in some book I had of fables/myths around the world (baba yaga for example).
 
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CrazyDude said:
I finished the game, so can you tell me?
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When you go to Bald mountain to kill Imletirth, there is a dialogue choice where Ciri will tell you that the crones came to Velen and slaughtered the druids that guarded the land and took it for themselves. She also never mentions a fourth one(their mother) and during the Whispering hillock quest it is heavily implied that the spirit trapped in the tree is a powerful druid(druidess). Not to mention that in the book the crones are the supposed guardians of Velen.
 
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foxtrot3d

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Tigress said:
Just finished the Baron's Quest. Already know what happens if you
kill the tree spirit vs. save it
. Still debating on which is better
I honestly think killing it is better. Kids die either way but a whole village also dies and even though Baron's explanation of why his marriage went south makes me sympathize with him less I still like the character
. But the choice I made before I knew which did which was the option I like least and part of me feels I should stick with the choice I made without knowing the consequences. Even if it was the worse choice in the end imho. Heh, this game is going to annoy me, I always want to be able to play the ultra good guy and it's going to annoy me not to be able to save everyone, heh. I'm enjoying the story so far though (I like it a lot better than the story in Witcher 2 but I think I was more lost on all the politics in Witcher 2) :).

I really like the character design/artwork of the
crones and the
voice work on them. I think who ever they got to voice act them did an excellent job and I really like the effects on their voice. The design reminds me of the russian fables in some book I had of fables/myths around the world (baba yaga for example).
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The kids don't die either way, if you save the spirit it saves the children. The way I justified it was that A) Children's lives are more important and B) Downwarren worshiped the evil Crones and gave them their children so fuck em. But, there is no right choice.
 
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toastyToast

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Admiral Woofington said:
viper only has the swords i think

As to Wolf school, I assume it's because that's the beginning armor.
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I mean, I know that they're there in skeleton form. Should have been full blown sets like the others. Maybe in the expansions

Also, just finished Reason of State. Fucking hell
didn't think Djikstra would be that dumb to voice his plan to kill the others in my face. You'd have to be a hard bastard to let that go, or a Iorveth-lover. Made a much bigger move here than I expected. Thought they'd handle it themselves, or maybe that would have been the walk away option. Still I was complicit in a sense.

Shit is real.
 
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CrazyDude

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foxtrot3d said:
The kids don't die either way, if you save the spirit it saves the children. The way I justified it was that A) Children's lives are more important and B) Downwarren worshiped the evil Crones and gave them their children so fuck em. But, there is no right choice.
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Isn't it implied that the children get eaten if you don't free the spirit.
 
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Two Words

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mgs2master2 said:
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I'M still in act 1 with that playtime.....
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Suspend/resume lets the playtime keep going.
 
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Aeana

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All done. Truly one of the best games I've ever played. It really earned its place as one of the greatest western RPGs in my mind.
 
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xezuru

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So general background lore question: it seems like the other Witcher schools are way more in tuned or at least physically closer to city life than Wolf School / Kaer Moren, Witcher Gear Hunt Spoilers:
atleast this seems to be true with the Cat school where it actually seems to be a base instead of a drop spot hideout.
Seems like a weird with at least in this current/last war age it seems Witchers are just mutant scum to average populace and they need to hide their paths from outside eyes. Always took them to heavily push hermit life away from the populace, book readers or otherwise go any general state of the Witchers context?
 
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Fata1moose

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Do we know what the next free DLC will be? Seems like the announce the first four, but haven't heard what the next will be, I'd like more Gwent (cards and people to play).
 
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Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
Ending spoiler.

I just realized that one of the Crones survived, I wonder if one of the xpacks will deal with this.

Did she die in any of you guys' games?
 
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Aeana

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Einchy said:
Ending spoiler.

I just realized that one of the Crones survived, I wonder if one of the xpacks will deal with this.

Did she die in any of you guys' games?
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I'm almost certain that this is what one of the expansions will deal with. Has to.
 
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orthodoxy1095

Banned
I've lived with my decisions up to now, but I just had to reload. I didn't realize that The Last Wish auto-fails if you go to do Ugly Baby first. Kinda annoyed about that.
 
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EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Finally got superior feline armour. Now to work my way up to mastercraft.

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leng jai

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I got the point with Yen
but I was too chicken to say I didn't want to be with her anymore despite the fact I already told Triss I love her.

lol
 
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tuxfool

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orthodoxy1095 said:
I've lived with my decisions up to now, but I just had to reload. I didn't realize that The Last Wish auto-fails if you go to do Ugly Baby first. Kinda annoyed about that.
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Yennefer warns you quite clearly
that if you don't do it soon and by soon it means before the next story mission she will move on.
 
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