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there are no new Hollywood Stars

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Artoris

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Or in the very least there are fewer than there used to be, although I can't think of anyone I would call a star who has appeared in the last twenty years
 

Billbofet

Member
This gen is all supes and cape shit. I enjoy it mostly, but very rare these stars can carry a movie on their own.
Closest thing to star I have seen lately is Austin Butler. If Elvis wasn't some kind of fluke, dude will be epic.
I'll also watch anything with Michael B. Jordan, even though he is pretty much the same character in most movies.
 

Fbh

Member
There definitely aren't as many as before. Probably because teens and young adults now look up to Youtubers, Social Media Influencers and Streamers more than movie starts.

But they still exists. You can't tell me Tom Holland got cast as Nathan Drake because they really thought he was the perfect fit for the character.
 

Bragr

Banned
Hm, you might be right, when I think of the 80's and 90's, I think Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Tom Cruise, Van Damme, Bruce Willis. Can't think of anyone who will be remembered like that of this new generation.

And even the famous ones now, Tom Holland, Christ Pratt, The Rock, whatever, they barely got one good movie if that. They don't have those classic all-time sorts of movies.
 

Fbh

Member
Same with music I feel like movies/shows are better off in term of new talent though

Yeah I think with streaming "TV stars" are now bigger than ever.
But they do seem to struggle to stay around once their shows are over.

Can't think of anyone from, say, Game of Throne making it big after the show ended.
 

bitbydeath

Gold Member
Samara Weaving has been and still is in a lot of stuff.

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Jenna Ortega too, who was just cast as Wednesday Addams.
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Maiden Voyage

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Honestly, I think it's probably a good thing there are fewer child actors rising to prominence given that most wind up absolutely batshit insane later in life.
 

*Nightwing

Banned
Hollywood is dead

Streamers on the internet are the new American royalty, and Hollywood stars are an endangered species

YouTube and twitch combined seem to have been both making more celebrities as well as money than Hollywood post pandemic.
 
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Hollywood is all nepotism anyway, that's all it is.

Also more importantly that the market has simply changed as people mentioned with what social media has done, and also that movie brands have become more important in comparison to actors themselves.
 
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Kraz

Banned
What is meant by Hollywood star here? There's probably several reasons varying with the context.

There has been a push in the last 10 years or more for talented actors to be more relatable and get away from the glamour. That's kind of opened up the glamour scene for exploitation by the talentless and that's another problem.

Leaving that aside.

For talent,
Saoirse Ronan has shown some range and depth.
 

Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
Can't think of anyone from, say, Game of Throne making it big after the show ended.

Same with music I feel like movies/shows are better off in term of new talent though

I think these are the two big things, and that they're basically all about franchises. Old stars are keeping their audiences and not retiring, all these old bands that are 60+ years old still heading out on tour. People know their brand and stick with it. For the record labels, etc, it's easier to keep promoting than try and build something new and there's more profit in that. For them, getting 70,000 people in a stadium at $£100 a go is much more desirable than building up someone new who may or may not get there. Once a band are big enough to sell out a stadium, it seems like a lot of them can keep doing it even with a 20 year break and no new songs (Guns N Roses have been on tour for a couple of YEARS just playing songs from the 80s/90s, same cities and stadiums, over and over and people keep coming out for it). They're probably expecting Ed Sheeran and Taylor swift to be doing stadium shows for the next 20+ years. Sounds like a good deal to keep that going as long as possible.

As for younger actors, as in Game Of Thrones*, the show is the star - not the actor. And that's the way the studios like it - they've put all the money into building a brand that people like, so all the promotion goes into keeping that going, not promoting actors who take all that value with them.

Even Tom Cruise, who is arguably the most famous actor working today doesn't make much that isn't a franchise. He makes Mission Impossible. If you take a look at his film list on Wikipedia over a ten year period, it's pretty stark how things have changed over his career. The most recent decade: it's Mission Impossible (Franchise), Jack Reacher (a sequel and a less successful attempt to build a franchise) Top Gun (Sequel) and The Mummy, an attempt to create a giant franchise universe of movies for Universal ...and that's it from 2015-2024. Aside from American Made, a genuine standalone movie.

If you think I'm cherry picking and "he's been making Mission impossible for 20 years! Take a look at how many movies 2005-2014 are franchises/sequels and standalone:

2 Mission impossibles, one Jack Reacher. 8 stand-alone movies. (didn't count the producer only credits).

If Tom Cruise can't get movies made (and remember he's the producer on Mission Impossible, so he could get things done), presumably few people can.

There's apparently no appetite for original ideas that can't be spun into giant franchises with hundreds of sequels. Not versus the Cinematic Universes.


*I hear that Jason Momoa has done alright post Game Of Thrones. ...As Aquaman. And some other films where he doesn't play Aquaman, perhaps. But mainly Aquaman
 
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Blade2.0

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I believe one reason you don't have huge stars like your Arnold's and what not is because they are trying to get you to focus more on the film than the actor. when before it was a Harrison Ford vessel made just for him. Jurassic Park Dominion, for example, wasn't made with Chris Pratt in mind, he just fit what's best for the role. Also more diversity in roles (which i believe is a good thing) plus, taking into account that streaming services are everywhere, it really dilutes the mega stars and now you're just left with only adequate stars. (it's also probably a way for giant corporations to try and pay actors less because of course they dont have enough fucking money already...)
 
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