Thinking on it, the Yu-Gi-Oh anime is on some straight up bullshit.

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still made no sense how they didn't bother following anything remotely similar to the actual card game rules until battle city.

The card game was based on the manga, not the other way around. So, the arcs originally made before the card game was an actual product don't really match up with the real card game rules. It was just an in universe game at the time, not really balanced to be played by real people outside of the story itself. Later stories though used the actual card game as a base for the rules.
 
Did you ever watch the final season of Yu-Gi-Oh?

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Want to know which anime a bit worse than this?
Beyblade

I wish Beyblade recreated the feeling of those tops flying up and hitting you in the face. That shit hurt.

Long ago I got some bootleg-ass Yugioh dvd and watched it. Fucking crazy, Bandit Keith pulling a gun on Pegasus (called "Pecassi") Mokuba was subtitled as "WoodenHorse" and Yugi's grandfather got crucified...wild shit.

I need to track this down.

I wish the manga hadn't become all about the card game. The first few chapters of the manga especially were pretty fucked up, Yami was literally a Saw villain

Back when "King of Games" actually made sense. Those first seven volumes were basically the only Yu-Gi-Oh related media I genuinely enjoyed for a while.

Oh yeah, did anyone else get ripped off by dungeon dice monsters too? That game looked so fucking amazing on the show but then they put out basically 1 set that recreated that one match (with broken rules of course) and that was it. What a fucking waste.

Dungeon Dice Monsters was some BULLSHIT. Never mind the fact that there weren't any cool unfolding cubes for the monsters to pop out of, but the actual panels were stuff cardboard on a paper mat that didn't even lay flat on the ground. Good luck trying to play when everything keeps sliding off. Even in my days of liking merchandise unquestionably, I still managed to feel ripped off.
 
still made no sense how they didn't bother following anything remotely similar to the actual card game rules until battle city.
I think what happened was that the manga/show came first, but before it was the show you know of on WB kids and whatnot, it was about pretty much all types of gaming, not just duel monsters. There was even a Tamagotchi episode.

In this very early form of the show Kaiba represented the TCG villain among the different games, and it featured a version of Duel Monsters that is completely different from the official card game (the terrain played a massive factor in monster power, as did their elements. You might recognize both of these rules as popping up during the Duelist Kingdom at times but were for the most part quickly forgotten). Spoiler alert, Kaiba isn't written out of the show like most of the villains were due to his success at the game.

Now you have a major villain and the card game revolves around him. Somehow the YGO show reboot integrated Duel Monsters as the definitive game everybody plays because it's what Kaiba is about, and key events that happened in the original show are referenced as flash backs. However; at this point the show is still running off of the original idea they had which had very arbitrary rules and I don't think they ever actually came up with decent rules for the game until Konami made the official game, which then Battle City would have adopted while still taking liberties for the cool factor.
 
If anything, the anime duels have to rely on contrived bullshit just to maintain any sort of drama or tension.

Most actual TCG duels end in like two or three turns at most won by whoever draws their overpowered combo starter first.
This is why I secretly want a Magic The Gathering show in the same vein as this show. Themed decks, silly combos, calling out every card description, overreacting to every move.

The non-optimized decks would also drive every power player nuts, which is a nice side bonus.

Somehow the YGO show reboot integrated Duel Monsters as the definitive game everybody plays because it's what Kaiba is about, and key events that happened in the original show are referenced as flash backs. However; at this point the show is still running off of the original idea they had which had very arbitrary rules and I don't think they ever actually came up with decent rules for the game until Konami made the official game, which then Battle City would have adopted while still taking liberties for the cool factor.
Kaiba might as well have had "deuteragonist" printed on the back of his coat.
 
This is why I secretly want a Magic The Gathering show in the same vein as this show. Themed decks, silly combos, calling out every card description, overreacting to every move.

The non-optimized decks would also drive every power player nuts, which is a nice side bonus.

"Why the fuck is he playing Knowledge Pool!? Has no-one in this shitty show heard of Delver? Man my Legacy deck would destroy those guys"
 
still made no sense how they didn't bother following anything remotely similar to the actual card game rules until battle city.

Has there been a yugioh series where you can flip summon shit?


Been watching cardfight vanguard recently and at least they seem to be honest with them trying to market you cards (heck one eps's moral of the day was you will keep losing unless you buy the newest booster packs!).
The card game was one of many different games in the show, and it predated the actual card game. They don't follow the real card game's rules because the real card game rules were probably not complete when that season was written.

By the way, the first season brought to America was actually the second season of the show. That 'season 0' was were the other games were played. There are occasional flashbacks and references to it. The bit that spawned "screw the rules, I have green hair!" for example, is a flashback to that initial season.
 
huh, i forget about the order of events. there was some duel monsters action in season 0 I remember.


speaking of bullshit animes.... inazuma eleven. Sure its based off a game... but yeah.
 
Dungeon Dice Monsters was some BULLSHIT. Never mind the fact that there weren't any cool unfolding cubes for the monsters to pop out of, but the actual panels were stuff cardboard on a paper mat that didn't even lay flat on the ground. Good luck trying to play when everything keeps sliding off. Even in my days of liking merchandise unquestionably, I still managed to feel ripped off.
Oh, this might be why I have a different opinion over Dungeon Dice Monsters. I played the GBA game. It was solid as a portable video game.
 
Yami literally goes around getting revenge on bullies in ironic and dangerous games. He drives one guy insane, causes another to constantly see through a mosaic "censored" filter, another guy ends up with deafening pounding sounds blasting in his ears for the rest of his life or something, he literally plays a game with vodka and a lighter where the loser catches on fire and dies, and plays air hockey with a hot pancake grill ending in the victim suffering massive chemical burns.

I really feel like re-reading the manga, lol. Shit was wicked. I think the last volume I bought back in the day had the introduction of the white haired kid, with whom they played some kind of Dungeons and Dragons type game. The kid was already possesed by the spirit like Yugi and when his one arm still had the consciousness of the kid, the spirit impaled his hand with one of the game's plastic towers :lol
Afterwards I think it followed the anime though.
 
People shitting on 5Ds because of "card games on motorcycles" deserve to have their nostalgia demolished. I didn't bother watching a lot of 5Ds, but what I saw was generally a lot better than the first two Duel Monsters series.
 
Yeah, that's why I stopped reading the manga pretty early. The author was pulling some crap out of nowhere that just turned the table around without any hint of foreshadowing. When he introduced card fusion, BS meter went up to eleven and there's no turning back, he just fused the living bullshit out of every hole he dug the protagonist into.
 
Whole thread about the bullshit in yugioh and aint no one talking about how fucked up yugi's hair was.
Well, some shit goes without saying.

what the fuck
Three words: Griddle Ice Hockey. To go in depth a bit more, basically they play air hockey on a grill using a puck of ice containing a vial of explosive chemicals. The loser was decided when the puck broke open, dropping the chemicals right in front of them.

Classic Yugi was a little psychopath.
 
My favorite bullshit Yugi moment besides catapult turtle was when he used polymerization to fuse a monster and a magic card. Kaiba was so distraught. Like, "I know that shit shouldn't be possible...but I just saw it happen. The fuck?"
 
Over the past week I've seen nostalgia for Yu-Gi-Oh! Forbidden Memories. Did people actually enjoy that game? It gave no fucks to the TCG's rules, and got pretty hard. The only thing I really enjoyed was the ancient Egyptian setting, and seeing their counterparts of the show's cast.
 
Oh, this might be why I have a different opinion over Dungeon Dice Monsters. I played the GBA game. It was solid as a portable video game.

Don't get me wrong; the idea was cool, but the execution left a lot to be desired. Plus, it wasn't exactly portable, unlike the cards, and I doubt many people wanted to be that kid who brought the entire setup to the playground. I might need to look into the GBA game, though.
 
I always felt the Anime was kinda bullshit. Any of the main characters would have their backs against the wall, then they would draw a card no one has ever heard of before that ends up being an instant win.

"You weren't planning on me drawing the 'I win instantly dragoneyes' card. That means I win instantly. HA."
 
Any of the main characters would have their backs against the wall, then they would draw a card no one has ever heard of before that ends up being an instant win.

Reflects how card games actually work.

Just look at the hearthstone thread.
 
man I loved this show as a kid. I stopped watching after yugioh gx or what ever. That shit was terrible. The show started off slow but as soon am merick was introduced I was hooked
 
The Manga is much less ridiculous, somehow. Like, heart of the cards is essentially just them focusing and not giving up. They don't really pray to the heart of the cards and get actually rewarded for it, it's more similar to just straight up fighting spirit than magic.

The whole series is still bullshit, though, I mean, it's about cardgames being the biggest shit in the world, what do you expect? The most realistic series like this would be Hikaru no Go, and even then people are way too heavily invested in Go, and even then it's still not nearly as fun to watch as two super over the top anime guys with crazy hair have ridiculous cardgame battles on top of buildings/blimps/motorcycles/alternate dimensions.
 
it doesn't help that koonami licensing bullshit resulted in no text on the cards of the english dub, which really emphasizes how people pretty much were just making shit up.


Anyone remember when kaiba programmed a virus into his blue eyes which was played by the fake?
 
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