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Tinder is destroying mens self-esteem (New York Post)
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Your Entertainer
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Water is wet.
I'd confidently wager that average to below average looking females get an order of magnitude more matches than most men, even the very attractive ones.
I remember years ago, speaking to a girl on Tinder. She was not very good looking, and not in good shape. Back when they had Tinder stories. She posted one that said she just cleared out 2000 matches.
I'd confidently wager that average to below average looking females get an order of magnitude more matches than most men, even the very attractive ones.
I remember years ago, speaking to a girl on Tinder. She was not very good looking, and not in good shape. Back when they had Tinder stories. She posted one that said she just cleared out 2000 matches.
liliththepale
Banned
Being superficial is something everyone's entitled to.
Google does that when it doesn't know where or who specifically something is, but still knows what kind of thing it is.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Huh, your right. Yours returns
female
It goes both ways? I get my fair share of messages I send off that go unanswered, and unmatches as well.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Some folks should be banned from procreating.
LookAtMeGo
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True. I was kidding around.
I get matched up all the time and dont get a response.
liliththepale
Banned
To be clear, I think superficiality is generally self destructive and that most people have unrealistic and inaccurate standards for other people. But it's also difficult to change what you like. If you want to live your life on hard mode and set preposterous expectations for your relationships, then you should be able to do so!
Yeah. Most of my avatars are either that or beauty like Leeness's gets.
UnemployedVillain
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A pretty face is already a given. It's not even in the discuss of boobs vs ass
I'll take boobs. Ass is last place. Sorry GAF.
I'm sure one of you will bring up that "boobs are fake asses" manga pic. Don't care.
Warm Machine
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I agree completely.
But that would require the type of friends who go out...
Of course, that is not being questioned here. This is merely acknowledging (and lamenting) what most people already know at this point. The world is generally more brutal to those who aren't above average attractive regardless of gender, and at this point in time where online dating is a major thing and the way these things go (more men than women using these apps, thus giving women more choice) it's a tad more brutal to men at the moment (in dating space. In many other ways men have it easier still).
PIMPBYBLUD
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Stop using fucking Tinder...problem solved.
hydrophilic attack
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Um. How would you know?
Reverse image googling pictures of yourself, repeatedly, to see which word google comes up with, seems to be quite a few steps ahead of vanity googling your name
Indeed
Hellwarden
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Threads like these make me think dating in the modern context is like playing russian roulette with your emotional well-being.
Then I wonder if it's always been that way.
Then I wonder if it's always been that way.
liliththepale
Banned
I think it's only more brutal to men in the sense that women have already been dealing with it our whole lives. Obviously I'm biased there though.
I've been told frequently and often double check when reminded.
bananafactory
Banned
Don't admit to watching bad movies
Some women dig short guys. I'm super short, and I've dated women that were taller than me, and women that were shorter than me (mostly taller, since most of the <5'0 women only want guys that are 6' and above. It broke my heart the day my 4'3" crush was like, "I only want a guy who's 6'5"!").
Anyway, to all my fellow short dudes, go out and find a tall lady who likes short guys. Or a short lady who likes short guys. They're out there! My wife is about an inch taller than me, but she wears flats, so we're usually about the same height, or I'm a little taller than her when I'm wearing my tennis shoes, which give me a little over an extra inch of height. I used to be super insecure about how tall I was, but I got over it sometime in my early twenties.
Anyway, to all my fellow short dudes, go out and find a tall lady who likes short guys. Or a short lady who likes short guys. They're out there! My wife is about an inch taller than me, but she wears flats, so we're usually about the same height, or I'm a little taller than her when I'm wearing my tennis shoes, which give me a little over an extra inch of height. I used to be super insecure about how tall I was, but I got over it sometime in my early twenties.
How About No
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I was at the docs today and they had me on record at 5'9.5 instead of 5'10.5. This was after I read the thread so I made sure we corrected it, cuz apparently this shit ruins lives
But I'll still delude myself and round up to 5'11
But I'll still delude myself and round up to 5'11
hydrophilic attack
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People actually say that a lot? Nothing like implying stalker-like behaviour when trying to hit on a girl. No wonder gaffers are struggling with Internet dating
That too, but in today's online dating landscape women have more criterias for men which are practically impossible to work on for men. This is where the hopelesness many men talk of come from. It seems "hopeless" because these criterias are often things they can't change. About here people usually mention how too men largely prefer thin women but even those people are slowly starting to see the fallacy in that comparison and not as many use that anymore. I mean the reasons for all the above is super logical and I for one am not looking for answers to any of this. It is what it is and like you said everyone is allowed to like what they like and I don't even want to change that since I want to be allowed to like what I like as well.
You know, she didn't actually mention that it was specifically gaffers who mention things about her avatars
I mean it could be that she doesn't frequent other forums but...Men definitely have nothing to complain about when it comes to anything online related. My friends have shown me some of the stuff they put up with on Tinder, and I guarantee it's significantly worst than anything a typical dude has to deal with. Straight up sexual/vulgar stuff, dick pics, proposed sugar daddies, mood swings once sexual advances are turned down, etc. And that's before they even get to the point of meeting up with someone, and that's a whole can of worms in itself.
Sunster
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It really doesn't, this quickly became a venting frustrations thread. Don't take it too seriously.
Don't you think that both women and men have valid things to complain about it? Their problems are of different natures but they both have their problems nevertheless.
This. I mean obviously I'm guilty of venting and I apologize. Tends to happen sometime when you bottle up all your frustrations in real life because you don't want to be perceived as a "whining bitch" and then someone starts a dialogue about stuff online xD
Talking about this more observantly, OP is right that it will be interesting to see how these things change and evolve as time goes on.
Angelus Errare
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Is this the thing MRA guys whine about?
Most men seem to whine about a woman not responding to them when they write "hi". Not a valid complaint really.
Most men seem to whine about a woman not responding to them when they write "hi". Not a valid complaint really.
Teriyaki Blues
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This shit is exactly what I was talking about before. If you have a good woman friend who uses these sites, ask them to see their inbox. An eye opener for me.
Sunster
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One of the things, yea.
Yes, but then again that's not what I was talking about anyway.
I never said to pine in the dark waiting. I said to be relaxed and live your life but that things may change in the future. They often do. Idk if my thinking is unhealthy or yours is. So many rigid standards when nothing is rigid in life.
Enjoy your boring rules to approaching women.
Abstrusity
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It's really not Tinder that's destroying men's self-esteem, it's the patriarchy.
Or rather, the need to be accepted being twisted into "the need to conform to gender roles and stereotypes."
Does the same for women, too, for that matter.
Someone should probably get around to fixing that...
Or rather, the need to be accepted being twisted into "the need to conform to gender roles and stereotypes."
Does the same for women, too, for that matter.
Someone should probably get around to fixing that...
OrangeGrayBlue
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We'll it's not like you dive into your emotional trauma five minutes after meeting them, it should be a gradual buildup to those more intimate thoughts. That said, I'm not even talking about deeply held vulnerabilities necessarily. I'm saying there's a world of difference between telling someone you've been a Lakers fan your whole life and telling someone you've liked the Lakers ever since your dad took you to a game when you were 5 years old and to this day it's one of the best memories you have with him.
The first option is a meaningless piece of data that does nothing to build a bond between you and the other person outside of "hey, we like the same sports team", the second option says something about who you are and how you felt at a given time. It is a bigger, more personal offering to the other person and those are the kinds of things that build real connections.
Nah really that was intended to be more self-deprecating humor more than anything haha. I know I'm going bald and embracing it as much as I can, rocking a low buzz for now and more than happy to shave it all off sooner or later.
And yeah, definitely aware of taking care of myself and working on me. Thats the other thing I'm working on this year besides paying off debt is taking care of myself and making sure I'm in a better place. So far socially thats at least true. Maybe went out with friends a dozen times last year at max? Meanwhile every friday (and most saturdays) for the past few months has been spent hanging out with friends/hitting up bars/etc.
Angelus Errare
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Good luck getting men to change that.
freenudemacusers
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Only ugly people hate freedom
Killer Queen
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I've been in a few internet LDRs and I gotta say this person is entirely correct. That's really what got me my closest bonds to people and even applying that method of conversation now to people I've known for years has made them go from maybe passing acquaintances to close friends and its usually how I decide whether I can get close to someone or not and once you're in its a lot easier to create something real.
liliththepale
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But it's so much more than just weight. You can't change your height or whether you have an hourglass figure or not. You can't change your face, breasts or ass without invasive and often imperfect cosmetic surgery. Plus many women are already on an intense daily regimen to change their appearance and look their best, yet the plain and ugly of us get passed over in droves and told we're not good enough, that we don't match the movie posters and magazine covers.That too, but in today's online dating landscape women have more criterias for men which are practically impossible to work on for men. This is where the hopelesness many men talk of come from. It seems "hopeless" because these criterias are often things they can't change. About here people usually mention how too men largely prefer thin women but even those people are slowly starting to see the fallacy in that comparison and not as many use that anymore. I mean the reasons for all the above is super logical and I for one am not looking for answers to any of this. It is what it is and like you said everyone is allowed to like what they like and I don't even want to change that since I want to be allowed to like what I like as well.
You know, she didn't actually mention that it was specifically gaffers who mention things about her avatars
I personally am extremely lucky in that regard. I've lived my whole life with people telling me they like how I look. But that's not a luxury most people have, and it's disingenuous to complain about others being superficial if you belong to the majority of us who contribute to the problem of giving most of our attention to hot/tall people.
JadedWriter
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Any woman can have a set of titty's. It takes a special woman to have a well toned and defined ass with a matching pair of legs. I don't care if the woman is flat chested if her ass and legs are on fucking point then I'm all in dat shit.
ViewtifulJC
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Chaos2Frozen
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That's the plan. Supposedly this engineering gig pays well enough, at least that's what people have been telling me.
Rejection on dating apps is definitely harsh and an eye opener when you first start, but it's hard to ask for sympathy when everyone is playing the same game. After some time playing the field, you get used to the flow of being rejected and rejecting others. Most of the time no harm is meant – excluding the racist bowel movements who list racial traits as a "preference."
And no, men don't have it worse than women — an argument that's MRA as fuck for anyone saying it.
And no, men don't have it worse than women — an argument that's MRA as fuck for anyone saying it.
jack_package_200
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I am 6'3.
I guess I have a lot to be thankful for.
I guess I have a lot to be thankful for.
crimzonflame
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Dont most men feel this way? I got over boobs in high school .
Those are all true but they all apply to men as well. I do maintain that in my opinion compared to men, women who do online dating have more"hard criterias" than men do regarding looks because they get so much more attention than men do so they need to filter out date candidates more. And I must emphasize that I'm talking about online dating. Most of my female friends are pretty good looking, but there are few who are even by their own admission below average looking. They don't have a particularly cute or beautiful faces and they are about 80lbs overweight. These girls pull so much men with Tinder that it's not even funny. Most of my male friends who are on the same "level" as those girls have never gotten a date out of Tinder xD
Like many others, I've lived my whole life being berated and put down because of how I look. Mostly by men, not women. I've never dated anyone so no hot or ugly person have "enjoyed" my attention
Well, it's hardly MRA as fuck to say that in a select few things like online dating women have a little easier time to get attention than men do because of some very simple logistical reasons.
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