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Tinder is destroying men’s self-esteem (New York Post)

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Afrocious

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^Which is why I never brag about dick size. I've had more people outright hate on longer than average penis lengths whereas it's glorified in media.
 

.shin

Banned
i'm a 5'4 man and nine times out of ten I'm discriminated against only when it comes to the dating scene.

at times it can be very draining but myself and other short men should remember that there's really nothing wrong with us. especially since this is the product of years and years of social conditioning. hopefully in the future these sort of "preferences" start to die out.

BUT... we must also keep in mind this sort of discrimination has parallels to how we assess overweight people in the dating scene. most of the time these standards/preferences are rooted in ignorance. /: (Women have it far worse though so why don't we also focus on that?)
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Aside: long penises scare me.

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BTW, I posted this in the online dating thread a few months ago. They didn't use tinder. I think they used some other dating site for the experiment. They had one good looking guy and a "regular" looking guy to compete against each other just trying to get into a conversation with these women. The results are way uglier than you could ever imagine. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY uglier.

http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/race_aff... fascinating collection of data from okcupid.

In addition to notable genetic factors such as height and facial bone structure or other such barely tangible traits that lead to general attractiveness, there's this elephant in the room:

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I don't think anyone expects superficial digital speed dating to be an egalitarian utopian expression of a progerssive society, but this is an ugly reflection of the reality of an open dating pool.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
When we get longer than 6.5 inches I'm going to be nervous.

I'd rather a guy have a short, stubby one than a long one. Long ones are scary.

Thick ones can be just as bad depending on perspective and how trained you are. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

For real though, anything above 7.5" is getting into crazy territory. Too many men worry about their dick size when the vast majority are within the "average" range.
 

hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Bitch.

I'm trained.

First time taking a thick dick in your backdoor? No, ma'am, you gotta work that way up.

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Don't lie, you want to see the majority of these folks photos.
As do I
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Leeness

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Sounds like you've had some terrible luck with your dates. Nobody should put up with that kind of shit. It's important to understand that in the situations you're describing they were the ones with the problems not you. Never underestimate your value and qualities, which I'm absolutely sure you have plenty. Seems like those fuckers managed to bring you down. You need a confidence boost... Confidence is important and healthy and also a very big plus in relationships. Find your strengths and use them to boost your confidence.

I've been to therapy...it doesn't work on this particular issue. I just live with it now. 😔

lol, can I meet these guys? I feel like we've rehashed this a few times. I feel like any guy putting you down based on looks must be blind or took a shovel to the head or something.

I've deleted the messages haha. But Vancouver guys. I think it's that most of the women in Vancouver are so gorgeous, I'm a troll in comparison. I dunno. I've given up wondering why.
 
For real though, anything above 7.5" is getting into crazy territory. Too many men worry about their dick size when the vast majority are within the "average" range.

Mm hmm.

Lots of guys brag about how long their dicks are and I'm like,"Okay, I'm scratching him off." I think most guys who think about that only do so for dick measuring. In terms of application, large penis size isn't the most...comfortable.

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I definitely prefer a thick, fat one or an average one over a long one.
 

hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
If you leave a NeoGAF thread open long enough, the topic becomes dick size. It's like a ripening avocado.

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First time taking a thick dick in your backdoor? No, ma'am, you gotta work that way up.

Don't lie, you want to see the majority of these folks photos.
As do I
.
I don't know what you're getting at. I'm just trying to make a living by providing amazing Photoshops.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Mm hmm.

Lots of guys brag about how long their dicks are and I'm like,"Okay, I'm scratching him off." I think most guys who think about that only do so for dick measuring. In terms of application, large penis size isn't the most...comfortable.

I definitely prefer a thick, fat one or an average one over a long one.

I mean big dicks can be nice. But you're sitting there like "where do I put all of it" you know?

I don't know what you're getting at. I'm just trying to make a living by providing amazing Photoshops.

( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
 

KingV

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Huh? We comparing being short with racism now? What oppression do you face as a short man? You need to use your tippy toes? You need to stand on a chair? Is that chair oppressing you? Does it dehumanize you? Does it justify murdering you?

This is like if I downplayed racism and then immediately started saying "it must be hard to be good at basketball" or "Why you mad that you have to type your pin to unlock your phone?"

Just because racism is WORSE, doesn't mean that height discrimination is not also negative.

What we're talking about here is just a preference. But while race is a preference is dating, it's also a social thing. Someone saying "no black plz" is just another piece on the already big piece of shit mountain minorities get every day. Being short comes with no such connotation and you will have short jokes thrown at you at best.

It's well-documented that short people make less money. Yes, it's not as bad as racism, on the whole (as far as I know cops don't shoot short people out of proportion, for instance).

Even in this thread there are a lot of short jokes. Popular media clowns short people all the time, and short people are usually portrayed as comedic sidekicks in movies. It's just more accepted to make fun of people based on height than body weight, race, or sexual orientation.

Just because it's in no way as bad as racism, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Again, it's not nearly AS big of a deal, but it is an actual thing.

It's such a disengenous comparison. Saying it's discrimination is silly. Would you go for a woman that's considerably taller than you?

I'm married to someone about 3" taller than me, who's regular wears 6" heels when we go out.

While true it's nothing you can change its rarely a real impediment on your life unless you're like, really, really short. Otherwise it should be something you should rightfully fight through and show who really are or pursue your best self.

You could make a similarly inconsiderate argument dismissing the inconveniences of just about any other kind of discrimination and people would find it crazily patronizing:

"At worst, you just have to hear some fat jokes occasionally... but like, it doesn't REALLY affect you. Just be the best possible you! Who cares if your fat, you're so funny... and jolly!"

Dating in general should make someone want to be their best to get the best catch the can get. A lot of women are shallow but I know for a fact I would go for a guy who is 5'6 if he worked out, and interesting enough for me to want to get to know him more. In fact, I have.

You're very open-minded to consider lowering your standards to date some awful midget if he was perfect in other ways /s.

In my past experience, this "preference" is amplified in online dating, and not nearly as important when meeting people in person.

Maybe women are more picky online because online isn't a safe bet. In real life, I can kind of read a man's intentions. Online, I have no such safe bet. I must be absolutely picky when online dating. Why wouldn't I be? Online dating is scary and men can fuck you up. Never forget, men are still men and dating is still dating. My momma told me to never show a man where you live on a first date for a reason - you don't know him. Online brings all sorts of new and different obstacles in the way of this type of safety protocol and we are going to have to see if you're legit and safe. Also, when I was on okcupid, I had dozens of messages to sift through. [bold]Why wouldn't I be picky? I have the choice of the litter.[/bold]

That's the whole point of the thread. Online dating kind of sucks if you are not the choice of the litter. A lot of people on GAF say it's the best way to meet people, but it's really dependent on your physical characteristics. If you are short or kind of ugly, but super funny with a great personality, you'd be much much better off just meeting people in person.
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
I agree with those saying height isn't his problem.

I have gotten likes, chatted up a few women on OKC. And my pics aren't studio quality. Taken with a phone with no flash.

Some women do have specific height requirements in their profiles. I just keep it moving, don't even bother.

But height can't be the only reason for the pass overs.

Is this a thing? :(

I mean shit...

Yea it is. Not going into specifics but my ex thinks the exact same way..... I think the thing is what you might consider short is actually long or long enough for her. Then there is the thickness....

But yea thats a real thing.
 
I've smashed a lot off tinder so my self esteem is intact but women are choosey in general get over it. Buy her some pasta and a bottle of wine and play the game until you find one to play games with you that doesn't suck. At least thats my poor excuse of a plan.
 

Afrocious

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Afrocious, come back and feel bad.

dont worry im low key lurking

dunno if it matters but i'll spoiler tag stuff in case it's nsfw

for real though i never thought anything about it until i started undressing in locker rooms and dudes started actively talking about how i have a monster dick/pipe, so i kinda grew self conscious about it. at the time, i had low self esteem so this was kinda harsh

first time a girl sees my penis (girl i lost my virginity with) gave me that spiel about me having a big dick (shit like 'you're definitely the biggest'/'i dont know if it can fit'/'i want to taste it'). she was white and it made me feel some kind of way with me being black and her literally holding my dick saying this stuff to me. this was also the first time i ever tried out casual sex and all in all, i dont regret it even though i didn't care for the experience. i wasn't attracted to her and figured i'd try at least feel good. i did but eh.

sometime after that i met my (ex) girlfriend. she said similar things about my dick when we had sex, but she eventually got used to it and seemed to only want sex from behind - which worked for me.

the last girl i had sex with i ended up having a conversation about her voicing my concerns about my dick, my thoughts on what people have said to me. i felt more comfortable telling her these things because she was black and we were pretty cool with each other (this was when i realized it's okay to not prefer casual sex).

she told me that a girl will just get used to it if she wants it. she, too, preferred sex from behind. so i kinda just did what folks ITT said and just went with it.

none of this is a humblebrag but i feel folks will look at it as such. i feel like i'm going to have this talk again pretty soon with someone i'm kinda seeing as well....
 
how long is too long

I definitely prefer a thick, fat one or an average one over a long one.

I mean big dicks can be nice. But you're sitting there like "where do I put all of it" you know?



( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)

They can be really hot. You know that food art where it looks amazing and you don't want to eat it because of that? Some big dicks are like that.
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So this is late nite gaf, huh...
 
When they've caught up to the rest of the media destroying women's, let me know

Oh please. We are in Instagram 6 pack/gains/men's fashion/fuck cargo shorts peak right now. Men are sexualized more than ever before and thusly have societal expectations as well.
 
dont worry im low key lurking

dunno if it matters but i'll spoiler tag stuff in case it's nsfw

for real though i never thought anything about it until i started undressing in locker rooms and dudes started actively talking about how i have a monster dick/pipe, so i kinda grew self conscious about it. at the time, i had low self esteem so this was kinda harsh

first time a girl sees my penis (girl i lost my virginity with) gave me that spiel about me having a big dick (shit like 'you're definitely the biggest'/'i dont know if it can fit'/'i want to taste it'). she was white and it made me feel some kind of way with me being black and her literally holding my dick saying this stuff to me. this was also the first time i ever tried out casual sex and all in all, i dont regret it even though i didn't care for the experience. i wasn't attracted to her and figured i'd try at least feel good. i did but eh.

sometime after that i met my (ex) girlfriend. she said similar things about my dick when we had sex, but she eventually got used to it and seemed to only want sex from behind - which worked for me.

the last girl i had sex with i ended up having a conversation about her voicing my concerns about my dick, my thoughts on what people have said to me. i felt more comfortable telling her these things because she was black and we were pretty cool with each other (this was when i realized it's okay to not prefer casual sex).

she told me that a girl will just get used to it if she wants it. she, too, preferred sex from behind. so i kinda just did what folks ITT said and just went with it.

none of this is a humblebrag but i feel folks will look at it as such. i feel like i'm going to have this talk again pretty soon with someone i'm kinda seeing as well....

Damn. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. FWIW I'm black too, and I think it's fucked up a lot of black men are fetishized for that.

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So this is late nite gaf, huh...

( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
 

Trojita

Rapid Response Threadmaker
dont worry im low key lurking

dunno if it matters but i'll spoiler tag stuff in case it's nsfw

for real though i never thought anything about it until i started undressing in locker rooms and dudes started actively talking about how i have a monster dick/pipe, so i kinda grew self conscious about it. at the time, i had low self esteem so this was kinda harsh

first time a girl sees my penis (girl i lost my virginity with) gave me that spiel about me having a big dick (shit like 'you're definitely the biggest'/'i dont know if it can fit'/'i want to taste it'). she was white and it made me feel some kind of way with me being black and her literally holding my dick saying this stuff to me. this was also the first time i ever tried out casual sex and all in all, i dont regret it even though i didn't care for the experience. i wasn't attracted to her and figured i'd try at least feel good. i did but eh.

sometime after that i met my (ex) girlfriend. she said similar things about my dick when we had sex, but she eventually got used to it and seemed to only want sex from behind - which worked for me.

the last girl i had sex with i ended up having a conversation about her voicing my concerns about my dick, my thoughts on what people have said to me. i felt more comfortable telling her these things because she was black and we were pretty cool with each other (this was when i realized it's okay to not prefer casual sex).

she told me that a girl will just get used to it if she wants it. she, too, preferred sex from behind. so i kinda just did what folks ITT said and just went with it.

none of this is a humblebrag but i feel folks will look at it as such. i feel like i'm going to have this talk again pretty soon with someone i'm kinda seeing as well....

The doggy style preference was probably because the other position were not as comfortable / hurting them.

There's a certain level of stretching that's possible, but generally a girl doesn't want to be hurt and may be wary of something too big. I've also heard getting hit on the uteran wall is the equivalent of a guy getting hit in the balls. But it's not like we can compare the two sensations.
 

KingV

Member
dont worry im low key lurking

dunno if it matters but i'll spoiler tag stuff in case it's nsfw

for real though i never thought anything about it until i started undressing in locker rooms and dudes started actively talking about how i have a monster dick/pipe, so i kinda grew self conscious about it. at the time, i had low self esteem so this was kinda harsh

first time a girl sees my penis (girl i lost my virginity with) gave me that spiel about me having a big dick (shit like 'you're definitely the biggest'/'i dont know if it can fit'/'i want to taste it'). she was white and it made me feel some kind of way with me being black and her literally holding my dick saying this stuff to me. this was also the first time i ever tried out casual sex and all in all, i dont regret it even though i didn't care for the experience. i wasn't attracted to her and figured i'd try at least feel good. i did but eh.

sometime after that i met my (ex) girlfriend. she said similar things about my dick when we had sex, but she eventually got used to it and seemed to only want sex from behind - which worked for me.

the last girl i had sex with i ended up having a conversation about her voicing my concerns about my dick, my thoughts on what people have said to me. i felt more comfortable telling her these things because she was black and we were pretty cool with each other (this was when i realized it's okay to not prefer casual sex).

she told me that a girl will just get used to it if she wants it. she, too, preferred sex from behind. so i kinda just did what folks ITT said and just went with it.

none of this is a humblebrag but i feel folks will look at it as such. i feel like i'm going to have this talk again pretty soon with someone i'm kinda seeing as well....

Honestly, that shit must be kind of weird. There's a lot of porn glorifying black dudes for having huge dicks, but that also is obviously racist. Like being a living stereotype but completely out of your control.

Girls love Mario too. Wii U will surprisingly get you some company. High end gaming pc.... not so much.

Good advice is to just get out the Wii U so you can show girls how far games have come.
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
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So this is late nite gaf, huh...

Off Topic....gotta luv it.....Sometimes I forget I'm on GAF..
This thread is clearly not for me any more lol

Carry on.

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What? Dont go...its just getting started...

The doggy style preference was probably because the other position were not as comfortable / hurting them.

There's a certain level of stretching that's possible, but generally a girl doesn't want to be hurt and may be wary of something too big. I've also heard getting hit on the uteran wall is the equivalent of a guy getting hit in the balls. But it's not like we can compare the two sensations.

And yes this is definitely a real thing too. All of it is really.

Yall some experienced folks up in here...
 
Also I just had a great idea while I was texting this girl that has been wasting my time lately replying to everything she said using only drake lyrics.... drake soundboard. Ok I'm sure this must already exist but I must try it when actually talking on the phone.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
dont worry im low key lurking

dunno if it matters but i'll spoiler tag stuff in case it's nsfw

none of this is a humblebrag but i feel folks will look at it as such. i feel like i'm going to have this talk again pretty soon with someone i'm kinda seeing as well....

PM me. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

But for real: Having a big dick doesn't mean the end of the world. It's just "logistics" issues and safety for BOTH parties.

I've been with some 8inch or near 8inch men that were completely fine
because they were bottoms, pyohohohoho~
, it really depends on peoples comfort levels. But really: A lot of men think they have "small dicks" when the reality is, they really don't. They are well within the norm of the majority and it's all in their heads. You having a large one is just the converse: You think it's a problem but it's really only a problem if you let it be.

Edit: Anyway, it's the same with height: A lot of women may say they don't want "small" men, but the reality is 5-6" isn't a huge difference if you're within like 5'6"-11" territory. It's just a matter of perspective like men and their dicks.
 
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