SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
You gotta show some skin to get play on Tinder. It's a meat market.
I bet you aren't even that attractive. This is why men have shitty self esteem.
As a grower, I know not to wear speedos Not that I would otherwise. Hairy man thighs are fucking gross.
i don't believe this grower vs shower bullshit. it's a myth. everyone is a grower.
Why do I need wider options? We're not talking about dating. We were talking how you rate people, instinctly, on a physical scale. I don't need any options. My bf (6'5 black ex-army officer btw) is moving in with me next week. When I was on OKC, I had over 20 messages before the end of the first day. Ryan Gosling may not ask me out, but I don't give a fuck. I know I'm all that.
What the heck?
You know, women have vast tastes. Cindi don't like some of the guys I think are hot, I don't like some of the guys she thinks are hot.
How the hell does her taste in men have anything to do at all with how attractive she is?
great. we have a very detailed picture about you and your tastes. what about the article? men on tinder? it sounds like your advice is basically to deal with it - attractive people only. since this is all about "dating/fucking".
I mean, thats basically it. Step your shit up, ugly boyz.
and short boys.
Basically. Be short and ugly on a app where people judge you on your pictures then wonder what the deal is brehs.
And Coffee Meets Bagle stomps all. Like, 8 dates in three weeks, off of almost no effort other than basic texting skills.
CMB > OKC > Bumble > POF > smoldering bag of human shit > Tinder > Match
it's kind of weird to think back to the early days of online dating, when the idea was that you could potentially avoid the superficial club/bar scene and get a better idea of how people actually are, beyond what they look like. I guess that lasted only a little while.
Tinder is an app for hook ups and dating. What the fuck are you expecting? Do you work out? Most "ugly" guys have a few extra pounds on their face. Work out, lift weights to lose that face fat and I bet you won't think you're ugly. Honestly, I've seen very few ugly people. There's probably less ugly people in the world than attractive people in the world. Even then it begs the question: you think you're ugly but somehow think you're going to attract a woman with that attitude? Why in the hell would any woman want to give you the time of day if you describe yourself as ugly? And your point being? You don't think someone who has low self esteem isn't going to show that lack of confidence in their pics? Better know that it's the opposite. Sounds like a buster to me. You honestly sound like you're making excuses for your inadequacies. Definitely a buster. Hell yeah you better step the fuck up if you wanna get laid from Tinder, an app that's about first impressions and looks first and foremost.
There are other dating apps and websites for that. Tinder is the all-you-can-eat buffet of dating apps. Faster, quicker, snap judgement. This girl's a yes, this girl's a no. This one's kinda cute. Funny bio, yes. Ew, no. No. Fat, thats a no. "Just making an account cuz my friends said to, lol" yea thats a no. Whooooa this chick bad SUPER LIKE. Yes. Yes. Damn you ugly, no. Yes. ehhhhhhhhh....yes, probably wont match anyway. Yes. HELL NO. Yea. "No Blacks" yea you gone end up alone bitch, no. Yes. Y E S.
this doesn't help a guy who's short though. or the massive ratio of men to women.
pretty harsh attitude, probably realistic, but I wonder if you'd say the same thing to women who have self esteem issues from various societal inputs. gonna guess no.
this doesn't help a guy who's short though. or the massive ratio of men to women.
pretty harsh attitude, probably realistic, but I wonder if you'd say the same thing to women who have self esteem issues from various societal inputs. gonna guess no.
Tinder is an app for hook ups and dating. What the fuck are you expecting? Do you work out? Most "ugly" guys have a few extra pounds on their face. Work out, lift weights to lose that face fat and I bet you won't think you're ugly. Honestly, I've seen very few ugly people. There's probably less ugly people in the world than attractive people in the world. Even then it begs the question: you think you're ugly but somehow think you're going to attract a woman with that attitude? Why in the hell would any woman want to give you the time of day if you describe yourself as ugly? And your point being? You don't think someone who has low self esteem isn't going to show that lack of confidence in their pics? Better know that it's the opposite. Sounds like a buster to me. You honestly sound like you're making excuses for your inadequacies. Definitely a buster. Hell yeah you better step the fuck up if you wanna get laid from Tinder, an app that's about first impressions and looks first and foremost.
i've only read some girl's bios after we matched or after i clicked on her picture to see if she had anymore or because i was scrolling down to see her instagram. tinder is designed around physical attraction first and foremost.
If you have self-esteem issues, dont go on Tinder. Straight up. Sorry, the world isn't obliged to date you cuz you exist. Aint here to massage your fragile ego or bruised self-esteem cuz you short and ugly and have no interesting hobbies. That goes for anybody, man or woman, black or white, straight or gay, cat or dog. Its a meat market, everybody's hunting for the best piece, and if you're aint a prime dish, fuck you doing here for?
Dude...No need to insult others.I bet you aren't even that attractive. This is why men have shitty self esteem.
Did I say she was ugly? I'm sure she's attractive. I'd probably find her attractive, in fact. But she probably isn't more than a 7 or 8, in all likelihood, yet she finds only 1 of the 25 hottest men attractive. In fact, she claims many of them are average. Sure, we can say there are plenty of other guys who should be on the list, but In what world are they average? All the women and all the men posted on the past 2 pages are very attractive. I'm just pointing out the women (not all women) often have almost impossible standards, regardless of how attractive they are. Is this innate or is it the result of intense media exposure where they can fixate on some dude they will never come across in real life?
Luckily I'm Michael Hall's doppleganger so any women who was obsessed with him finds me incredibly attractive.
it's kind of weird to think back to the early days of online dating, when the idea was that you could potentially avoid the superficial club/bar scene and get a better idea of how people actually are, beyond what they look like. I guess that lasted only a little while.
This is only partly true. It is hella easy to get laid as a gay dude as long as you stick to your "league." You're almost never gonna see some fat dude with some beefcake. Your personality does not matter. Seeing a beauty imbalance in a relationship is way more common for straight couples.
There is a pretty well documented phenomena of the "boyfriend twin" in the gay world. I was hearing "be what you want to date" when I first started dipping my toes into the gay world.
All I'm saying is there's something for you to work on. Tinder is not at fault. Being short is not at fault. How much effort do you put into being the best you?
This is the harsh reality of an app like Tinder. The sooner you can accept it, the better you can try to work it in your favor or choose a different outlet.
The only thing I disagree with is the ugly/attractive ratio Cindi stated. I think the majority of people are vastly average looking with ugly and attractive being the two extremes. I think average people either let themselves look ugly by not caring how they present themselves, and average people can make themselves attractive by caring about how they look and actually working on it that produces real results. Your outliers are the people who were born naturally very attractive or very ugly.
this doesn't help a guy who's short though. or the massive ratio of men to women.
pretty harsh attitude, probably realistic, but I wonder if you'd say the same thing to women who have self esteem issues from various societal inputs. gonna guess no.
Tanning bed will fuck up your skin.
I wear makeup daily but it's mostly because it makes me feel good and I enjoy the artistic process and self expression aspects.
I wear push up bras on dates so my boyfriend can get a good look.
I wear spf facial moisturizer. I put sunscreen on my arms every day even if it's cloudy.
I exfoliate my body every two weeks.
I shave my arms and legs at least once a month.
I drink at least 2 liters of water a day for beautiful skin.
I have a tiny bottle of lotion in my purse so they when I wash my hands I have fresh lotion on them and they're not ashy.
I lift weights three days a week. My goal is to have the best looking thighs and butt. I get enough attention already by why I got but I want more. Not too much though. Leg day is a big day for me and I always fire up beforehand my glutes by doing monster walks with a band around my feet. Gets my butt burning.
I initially started Jiu Jitsu for the cardio because I hate treadmills and ellipitcals.
People are confused when I tell them I'm 30. They think I look 18. Black don't crack but I go extra to take care of my temple. I used to be overweight so now I make up for lost time. I do all this for mostly myself because I enjoy it. No one pressures me.
Nope. I'm just obviously annoyed. Look, this is a competition. You need to compete. Tinder is highly based on looks. If you don't show up it won't work. This extends to life as well. Also i wouldn't talk to a woman like this because I don't know any women like this. You say you're short and ugly but apparently don't do anything to make you more palpable. Almost every woman I know, whether skinny or obese wants to look pretty. Nothing stops my obese friends from trying to look to still good. Women try really hard to be attractive. We shave our a pits and legs and faces. We have mani pedis, hair days, shopping days where we commonly buy the latest clothes even if knowing our flaws. You sit here knowing your flaws and mope about it instead of A. embracing it or B. Doing something about it. You can't do anything about your height, but you can def buy a copy of Starting Strength and start lifting weights.
Again. This is from OCD guys thread on what we do for beauty, this was my answer:
What are you doing to be the best you? No excuses.
Why in the world would any woman want a man who thinks he's ugly and doesn't try and most of us think we're ugly and break our backs to be seen as sexy to men? Why wouldn't we have at least a modicum of the same expectation thrust upon us?
Tanning bed will fuck up your skin.
I wear makeup daily but it's mostly because it makes me feel good and I enjoy the artistic process and self expression aspects.
I wear push up bras on dates so my boyfriend can get a good look.
I wear spf facial moisturizer. I put sunscreen on my arms every day even if it's cloudy.
I exfoliate my body every two weeks.
I shave my arms and legs at least once a month.
I drink at least 2 liters of water a day for beautiful skin.
I have a tiny bottle of lotion in my purse so they when I wash my hands I have fresh lotion on them and they're not ashy.
I lift weights three days a week. My goal is to have the best looking thighs and butt. I get enough attention already by why I got but I want more. Not too much though. Leg day is a big day for me and I always fire up beforehand my glutes by doing monster walks with a band around my feet. Gets my butt burning.
I initially started Jiu Jitsu for the cardio because I hate treadmills and ellipitcals.
People are confused when I tell them I'm 30. They think I look 18. Black don't crack but I go extra to take care of my temple. I used to be overweight so now I make up for lost time. I do all this for mostly myself because I enjoy it. No one pressures me.
What are you doing to be the best you? No excuses.
I'm about to go hookup with this girl visiting NYC that I matched today. Wish me luck!~
The bolded are just basic hygiene that most men do, tho. I don't think the thread is aboukt total dirty slobs who have no business dating anyone. Is basic hygiene what you consider the best you have to offer?
It was a quote from an unrelated thread. Also this is neogaf. Make no such assumptions.
Please note that I am not saying I expect someone to be attracted to me. But not every person can improve themselves to the extent that they can land a date, especially trough something like Tinder. I am short, balding and don't have a good facial structure. There isn't a huge amount of things that I can do, is there?
I try to keep my hair looking as good as it can, (I won't shave it off, I have done it before during the army, and people said my head looked terrible without hair) I wear the best clothing I can, of course I shower.. I also used to be in very good physical condition, now I am not as good. (but I'm not overweight, simply don't have the muscle mass anymore)
Anyway, my point is that I think I have already peaked as "the best I can be," I even tried to develop different personalities, but I have never even come close to landing a date. If you have been dealt certain attributes women don't like, then you are pretty much doomed to be alone in my experience.
Again. This is from OCD guys thread on what we do for beauty, this was my answer:
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What are you doing to be the best you? No excuses.
then tinder, an app specifically designed around first appearances, isn't for you.
whatever you think are your shortcomings can still be overcome, but on a different site or with more personal effort, etc. but it's not the site/app/women's fault that you're not getting what you want.
I'll be honest: sometimes you and lightskintwin sound too into yourselves, but then I read stuff like this and can't help but nod my head in complete agreement. You are completely right.
As a guy, I'm completely used to putting hours of time into my appearance: clothes, facial hair, hair style, eyebrows, shape of my beard, coat or jacket, fashion, etc. etc. etc. just to go outside and be around other people, let alone interact with them, to the point that it's become almost subconscious and I don't even realize I'm putting those hours in anymore. And it's still nothing compared to what women have to put in. So in that way, I understand the value of that self-confidence.
That work just feels like a normal everyday part of life to me, so I'm not sure why people are so shocked that this is a thing and that you can put in the effort to look good. I'm not going to treat life like a competition, though, or tear others down to build myself up. I'm not going to take any shit and I'm going to respect myself and demand that others respect me as well IRL, but I want everyone to succeed, regardless of looks and other physical traits, as long as they're good people.
Nope. I'm just obviously annoyed. Look, this is a competition. You need to compete. Tinder is highly based on looks. If you don't show up it won't work. This extends to life as well. Also i wouldn't talk to a woman like this because I don't know any women like this. You say you're short and ugly but apparently don't do anything to make you more palpable. Almost every woman I know, whether skinny or obese wants to look pretty. Nothing stops my obese friends from trying to look to still good. Women try really hard to be attractive. We shave our a pits and legs and faces. We have mani pedis, hair days, shopping days where we commonly buy the latest clothes even if knowing our flaws. You sit here knowing your flaws and mope about it instead of A. embracing it or B. Doing something about it. You can't do anything about your height, but you can def buy a copy of Starting Strength and start lifting weights.
Again. This is from OCD guys thread on what we do for beauty, this was my answer:
What are you doing to be the best you? No excuses.
Why in the world would any woman want a man who thinks he's ugly and doesn't try and most of us think we're ugly and break our backs to be seen as sexy to men? Why wouldn't we have at least a modicum of the same expectation for a man we date?
I'm honestly just annoyed people are shocked and disappointed they have to look good for an app like tinder and then blame it on some external factor and are shocked women aren't going for them when they blame their faults for external factors rather than fixing it. It's hard for me to respect it, let alone support it. It's a major pet peeve and I don't care if it makes me look like a bitch. I just hate it and I'm sorry if I've sounded like an asshole about it.
OKC is shit. It's full of a bunch of jackasses who pretend to be all progressive and shit but then answer yes to "is interracial marriage a bad idea?".
Yknow, normal internet two-faced bullshit where everyone says one thing but means/does another.
Hmm. This might be the truest thing in this thread.Look, this is a competition. You need to compete. Tinder is highly based on looks. If you don't show up it won't work. This extends to life as well.
I don't even use Tinder for this reason, just saw the post and felt like replying to the effort suggestion with my experience.
i recommend other sites then. there are loads of dating sites/apps that aren't built around first appearances like tinder is.