No, you have a number of fully customisable free loadouts that you can change to your liking. Only certain "power weapons" (not really) are locked out from these open load outs unless you unlock them by buying them as an option.
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TLOU: Remastered MP Microtransaction |OT| "We're shitty people"
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No, you have a number of fully customisable free loadouts that you can change to your liking. Only certain "power weapons" (not really) are locked out from these open load outs unless you unlock them by buying them as an option.
I am ragging on them a little, yes.
It's not and no one said it was, but it's a pretty terrible practice imo. I rather they left it the way it was, then you are paying for new content. Now you are paying for something that is already on the disc and paying just to get the right to use it in your own customized class. This is the second release of this game in a very short timeframe, surely they can put everything in there, without asking for even more money?
Handy Fake
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Ban Puncher
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So now I gotta wait for GOTY editions of HD Remakes/Remasterings to get everything in a single package?
Rad.
Rad.
You have to wait for the Definitive Limited GOTY Super-Awesome-Full-HD-Remastered-Edition. But it still may be missing some retailer exclusive DLC.
You know they are making new maps for the game right? This was never going to have all the dlc content on it.
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IISANDERII
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So why is it a sold item in the PSN store at all?
In something like Call of Duty you match your weapons, equipment and perks to compliment each other and gain an advantage that you cannot with the default loadouts. but that's not what's happening here?
aspiegamer
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Woosh...
RedAssedApe
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Welcome to the new age.
I was going to explain, but I'll just appreciate the irony.
Woosh indeed. Do you have anything to contribute?
quickwhips
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maps better be free or they will release a season pass later lol and everyone who bought the guns and perks now will have them included then. Either way they are going to piss more people off i bet.
so cosmetic
Notice how Ghosts is lauded as one of the worst CoD games in comparison to B. Ops 2 which only has 1 DLC weapon and is universally accepted as one of the best CoDs since MW1.
That doesn't change my argument; stat changing perks or weapons that are blocked by a pay barrier makes the balancing of a MP game incredibly shitty.
FairXchange
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That's a strange argument, I was using the weapons/perks locked behind this pay barrier just last night by selecting a premade loadout. I was doing quite well with these 'pay-barrier' weapons without paying a cent.
TimeEffect
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so cosmetic
Here are a few differences:
1) COD has so many weapons that the DLC weapons don't become a significant advantage over the other. With the LoU DLC, there is at least one weapon that is a silenced power weapon, which there is no equivalent to in the base game. There is another power weapon that acts as a grenade launcher. There is no equivalent to a grenade launcher in the base game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFLrEgD0QyU (this power weapon isn't used as commonly nor is it as consistently effective as you see in this video from my experience, but nonetheless, it's a grenade launcher).
Were the COD weapons grenade launchers? Exclusive killstreaks? Or were they simply derivatives of the many, many existing guns that game already has?
2) I think most people can agree that what COD does isn't a good thing either, and comparing LoU to COD to say it's okay doesn't make LoU look any better.
So? I know the rule. The other rule is also: don't bitch about threads. Moderators will take care of the offenders (you might give them a hand by reporting the thread instead of posting in it) and heck, if you stop replying to a thread you deem useless maybe it will naturally go to the bottom of the page instead of constantly keeping it upfront with complaints about how it shouldn't be there.
MaximusPayne
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Not disagreeing with you but your initial argument or sarcasm was that it was purely cosmetic which it is not. We should get used to DLC because people buy it and that is what the problem is.
I get that but the post was just giving COD as an example of paid for DLC. No one is comparing TLOU and CODs multiplayer to each other.
Why does this thread even need to exist?
Not only was there another topic for this, but also this seems to exist only to trash Naughty Dog.
Considering games like Battlefield 4, Call of Duty, Tom Clancy, and even Dark Souls 2 does shit like this already I don't see any reason for us to suddenly raise our pitchforks and go "Hey Naughty Dog! You suck!"
Now, yes, this is a shifty business practice, but it's not a huge advantage you can get with the DLC weapons or perks. I've put countless hours into the multi player on ps3 without the DLC and never had any issues against people with the dlc. When I bought it, I still barely used any of the weapons outside of experimentation. And really, outside the Enforcer the dlc weapons are really hit or miss.
As I said before, Naughty Dog dun fucked up for this but they shouldn't have their reputation soured by people who probably haven't played the game (and if you haven't played this game or the MP, you should).
Not only was there another topic for this, but also this seems to exist only to trash Naughty Dog.
Considering games like Battlefield 4, Call of Duty, Tom Clancy, and even Dark Souls 2 does shit like this already I don't see any reason for us to suddenly raise our pitchforks and go "Hey Naughty Dog! You suck!"
Now, yes, this is a shifty business practice, but it's not a huge advantage you can get with the DLC weapons or perks. I've put countless hours into the multi player on ps3 without the DLC and never had any issues against people with the dlc. When I bought it, I still barely used any of the weapons outside of experimentation. And really, outside the Enforcer the dlc weapons are really hit or miss.
As I said before, Naughty Dog dun fucked up for this but they shouldn't have their reputation soured by people who probably haven't played the game (and if you haven't played this game or the MP, you should).
I don't see what everyone is arguing about when this is pretty clear cut. Perks and weapons should be unlockable from playing the game without paying a dime. We should be able to customize the classes however we want without having to pay for anything. DLC should be cosmetic stuff. Why are there people defending what Naughty Dog did when the point that most of us are trying to make is so simple to understand?
Sword Of Doom
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I thought I got all these items on the ps3 with the season pass but I'm not sure
People can do what the fuck they please, I'm not supporting it. I can go other places for multiplayer.
Anecdotal evidence doesn't make your statement a fact. You can't customize the way you see fit, unless you pay a fee. That's awful for a multiplayer game.
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And another thing--people who claim the DLC weapons overpowered, well in a game like TLoU MP where making sound can screw you over if you're carless, something like a silenced rifle is a godsend. I stand by The Enforcer being one of the best all around pistols in the game. The only 'shitty' DLC weapon I see in that bunch is the Launcher.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Pretty much.
Because this is a Naughty Dog thread on GAF.
When Capcom locked content that was on the disc behind a DLC paywall people flipped their fucking lids.
PedroLumpy
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Decent summary of the last thread. However minor people may think it is, this hurts players. There's no upside so why defend it?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Did Capcom get two threads dedicated to DLC with thread title saying "We are shitty people"?
Impeccable
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I don't know, I saw this thread and assumed it was a mod-redo of the last thread ... but nope.
I don't recall. Probably not. But their games also typically don't get a single player thread, a multiplayer thread, a review thread, and a screenshot thread. So I'd say it evens out.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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tokyostomp
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Waiting for mod abuse title change!
Dhruv_hanom
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Did you have the season pass for the Last of us?
Exploratory
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You can't be serious.
lukeskymac
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Spine_Ripper
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You misspelled Sony. That's why everyone is trying to defend their Naughty Gods.
Both this thread and the other thread is just going around in circles. But nothing is going to happen unless somebody starts that media outlet controversy train, so right now bitching about this isn't going to do a thing. This all sounds like people that are annoyed by something pretending to be pissed off about a first world problem.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Alright. Going to try off the weapons. Right off the bat I can see that the guns are purchasable during the game so you can't use it right away.
Spectre costs 350 parts and comes with 14 bullets. It takes the cartridge to kill an enemy, and after that you don't get any ammo resupply unless you buy it, which costs 420 parts for additional 14 bullets. It also costs 3 load out points.
Edit: Every additional 14 bullets costs 490 and 560 parts as you progress.
Spectre costs 350 parts and comes with 14 bullets. It takes the cartridge to kill an enemy, and after that you don't get any ammo resupply unless you buy it, which costs 420 parts for additional 14 bullets. It also costs 3 load out points.
Edit: Every additional 14 bullets costs 490 and 560 parts as you progress.
Spine_Ripper
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Everyone's complaining about another thread about the same topic being made literally a day after the previous one. And like I said above, everyone is going in circles. ND hasn't even responded. If anyone legitimately gives a shit, then start that twitter backlash.
If only the OP contained that information ... ?
I don't see why it's such a big deal that people are upset. If you're not, great for you, enjoy the game. Some of us aren't big fans of this form of monetization, and I don't think that's such an outrageous thing.
RedAssedApe
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lol first two threads just now
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Oh for sure. I'm trying it out for the first time. This is an OT isn't it?
So from my impressions, if you have disposable parts and you want to use it then Spectre is quite OP. Good hit rate and low recoil.
I think the other participants have made me antagonistic. Sorry.
It's the only silenced fully-automatic weapon in the game, right? I could see it being OP.
Then again, most of the part bought weapons are.
Why would ND respond? Most of their fans who bought the game knew about the content and did nothing that I'm aware of. There's no point trying to change anything this late. The sequel will surely have this type of content.