Topher
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I get the concept, but I need to see the implementation and the official pricing. Then maybe it will click.
Tom Henderson: New PS5 with detachable disc drive test kit in people's hands, "works flawlessly"
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I get the concept, but I need to see the implementation and the official pricing. Then maybe it will click.
TheGodfather07
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So $399 for the console and $100 for the disc drive. They aint going above the original $499 of the disc drive PS5. Makes no sense.
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NomenNescio
Dual Sense Edger and Blower
The Last Of Us Part I
Price drop in official PlayStation Store store for The Last Of Us Part I
psprices.com
You don't need one when you have these wonderful tools that let you track prices. You just have to wait for the right time. But, to each their own.
Topher
Identifies as young
That is true. They have to move physical inventory. Publishers do not want to be stuck with a bunch of stock. Digital prices compete with physical. Digital doesn't take up space in a store though so it is the last to go on sale.
kyliethicc
Member
The drive standalone will probably cost more than $100 while yeah the bundle will likely remain $500.
LordOfChaos
Member
Is the disk drive going to come with it, or a separate purchase?
In which case, would the console + disk drive total to what the current disk model does, or more, or less?
In which case, would the console + disk drive total to what the current disk model does, or more, or less?
kyliethicc
Member
I'll gladly pay more $20 per game for the ability to just download and play.
Imagine if evey time you changed apps on your phone you had to insert a different sd card lol
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MarkMe2525
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I bought The Last of Us II from Walmart yesterday for 9.99
MarkMe2525
Banned
Yes... and it's cheaper than the $20 lowest price you quoted for disc games unless used.
Edit: sorry for the double post
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Justin9mm
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Imagine if it actually looked like that, we don't need additional R&D for this!1 PS5 model to produce instead of 2.
No more PS5 Digital Edition. Just PS5.
Make the disc drive an optional accessory for those who want it.
Can redesign the PS5 to be a bit smaller/slimmer.
Will lead to more digital game sales.
Also creates a perception of a price cut because they will be able to say PS5 is now just $399*
*optional disc drive accesory sold separately
//DEVIL//
Member
They charge you 100$ for it when it's already internal. Do you want them to charge you 100$ when it's external and has its own shipping box/housing, material, etc?
Sony out of all the companies in the world? they are fighting with Nvidia in second place when it comes to how to rob customers. Right after Apple.
MarkMe2525
Banned
It's very interesting to speculate on how these new sku's will be priced. Do they consolidate their lineup to a flat rate $450 console or keep their current offerings? Do they charge a peripheral tax and price it above $100 or sell it to reach the current disk drive price when both are purchased? I wonder how long it's going to be before we get these answers.
I read something a few months back about MS working on a similiar idea. If they are indeed planning on bringing a similar product out, I would imagine they aren't as far along.
I read something a few months back about MS working on a similiar idea. If they are indeed planning on bringing a similar product out, I would imagine they aren't as far along.
clarky
Gold Member
How else would it work? I'd be pretty pissed of if it only played half my games. Exterrnal drives have been around forever in one form or another it would be pretty hard to fuck this up.
Seems fairly pointless to me. They already have 2 sku's that cover all bases. Just make more of what everyone wants.
Inside the PS5 is pretty neat, outside not so much, this makes things worse unless its a slim redesign imo.
Seems fairly pointless to me. They already have 2 sku's that cover all bases. Just make more of what everyone wants.
Inside the PS5 is pretty neat, outside not so much, this makes things worse unless its a slim redesign imo.
Kumomeme
Member
production only need to create 1 SKU instead of 2.
also it give option to those who prefer disc or not while allow slimmer design.
What do you mean downgrade? I have 2 PS5s (Digital and Disc drive model)and I want to play some physical games I have downstairs when I'm in the office where the Digital PS5 is located.
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The PS5 has 1 USB-C port in the front. Unless this new model has a new USB-C2?
kyliethicc
Member
read the article
The article does not say it won't work with digital PS5 model. All it says is the new model will have an additional USB-C port on the back. I guess we will find out soon. Hopefully I'm able to use this with my Digital PS5 and this 3rd PS5 model was created to include just an additional USB-C so the front USB-C can be used for PSVR-2.
Puscifer
Member
Yeah I did the same, luckily I sold it for more than I bought it during the early days for 600 bucks and bought a disc version that same week somehow during a target drop. The digital only consoles are definitely trap, there's no way out and I learned that the hard way
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
It's for everyone who doesn't currently have a PS5, but wants one, either a digital or one with a disc. This way they only produce one unit.
I don't know how some of you guys make it through each day honestly. This is as simple as it gets
Imtjnotu
Member
Boy you dumb. It's hard to get one now. What makes you think these will be easierIt's for everyone who doesn't currently have a PS5, but wants one, either a digital or one with a disc. This way they only produce one unit.
I don't know how some of you guys make it through each day honestly. This is as simple as it gets
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Same. If someone slams a door in my house I am afraid the PS5 is going to tip over.
I'd gladly trade in my lightly-used PS5 and pay the difference for a PS5 SKU with a more traditional design. I am jealous of how elegantly designed and how good the Xbox Series X looks, for example.
supernova8
Banned
SO in the US the pricing is still unchanged, right?
$499 for disc
$399 for digital
I could see them charging $99.99 for the disc drive so that it's essentially no different if you get disc PS5 vs diskless PS5 + disc drive.
Then, I could see them discontinuing sales of both the current digital version and the disc drive version at some point (2024?), coinciding with the release of new slimmed down digital version.
The idea is that the already-released disc drive would cleanly attach to and work with both the original digital console and the new slim digital version.
Plus, they could launch the slimmed digital version for $349.99 and lower the price of the disc drive to $49.99.
That way, existing digital owners who want a disc drive and didn't already buy one only have to pay $50, while new buyers only have to pay $399 total for a full-power PS5 with a disc drive.
My logic is that (if they launch the disc drive in mid 2023 and launch the slim console in mid 2024) they get an entire year of selling what is just a bluray drive with some white plastic on top for $100.
Plus, by having a digital-by-default console only (with the option to use discs), Sony can psychologically nudge consumers toward digital.
$499 for disc
$399 for digital
I could see them charging $99.99 for the disc drive so that it's essentially no different if you get disc PS5 vs diskless PS5 + disc drive.
Then, I could see them discontinuing sales of both the current digital version and the disc drive version at some point (2024?), coinciding with the release of new slimmed down digital version.
The idea is that the already-released disc drive would cleanly attach to and work with both the original digital console and the new slim digital version.
Plus, they could launch the slimmed digital version for $349.99 and lower the price of the disc drive to $49.99.
That way, existing digital owners who want a disc drive and didn't already buy one only have to pay $50, while new buyers only have to pay $399 total for a full-power PS5 with a disc drive.
My logic is that (if they launch the disc drive in mid 2023 and launch the slim console in mid 2024) they get an entire year of selling what is just a bluray drive with some white plastic on top for $100.
Plus, by having a digital-by-default console only (with the option to use discs), Sony can psychologically nudge consumers toward digital.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Yep. They will sell digital and disc drive will be always only separate purchase which nobody will get. Shame
Gen.Grievous
Member
You can just put in an SSD yourself. If they increased the onboard storage that would require an entire redesign of the board and cooling..
Just put a better SSD memory.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Yep. It's always cheaper to get the physical. And I am selling Callisto protocol as we speak. I am not selling games almost never but good to have the option
Moses85
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MasterCornholio
Member
Its like making people pay more for thr Disk PS5 than the Digital Edition.
That's really what this is but designed to help manufacturing.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Wait… you will gladly pay 20 more to have a game that you don't own, can't get to play offline or v1.0 if you choose too, display on the shelf, sell, borrow, wipe your ass with if you need?!
And here I am thinking people will not pay for getting screwed over.
Physical is the last remnants of our freedoms of choice. Choice how to play and what to do with the product. Some last bits of ownership.
Digital is convenient maybe but psn speeds suck and I can't do nothing about it. There is only 1 price that is usually higher than physical and you don't own a squat if there is no internet, no servers or you get hacked.
Sure, I do think about going digital from time to time because I barely have room for games but no
I Master l
Banned
Making disc drive not tied to the hardware could introduce a huge security vulnerability
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Feels like 2008 Xbox 360
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I feel this can be a game-changer.
Imagine if Xbox had an option like this. A Series X with a detachable disc-drive add-on at $399. The $299, $399, and $499 trifecta would have been complete.
Imagine if Xbox had an option like this. A Series X with a detachable disc-drive add-on at $399. The $299, $399, and $499 trifecta would have been complete.
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roosnam1980
Member
will this need TOOLS to attach/detach with the console?
Sleepwalker
Member
I got Modern Warfare 2 a few weeks ago for $59 cad when the game was nearly only a month old (regular price 89.99 + tax = $103) from Walmart. The digital version has not been on sale at all afaik. I can resell if I want and recoup at least $40 easily right now if I wanted or didn't like the game.
Physical still has a place, cleary.
There was the patent around this topic.
https://gamerant.com/microsoft-pate...s digital downloads straight onto the console.
I don't know if it will lead to anything but who knows.
Doctor Hades
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Honestly, I might even have snatched a $399 XSX by now. At $499, it seems too expensive, and the Series S at $299 offers too little value to me (especially, considering you gotta have that proprietary expensive storage).
I hope it comes to fruition and something good does come out of it.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
True. Very good point.
In addition, a drive is something that you think you need more often than you actually do. Like I get almost all my games digitally. But I still got the Disc edition just in case I wanted to use any of my disks (which I haven't even once in these 2 years, by the way).
So having that option to just buy a disc whenever you want to is pretty cool. No more FOMO.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Thanks. They're hard to get but if you really want one you could have had the opportunity over the last 2 years if you had planned.
Back on topic though, this makes total sense from a business perspective.
Physical as much as I love it, is going the way of the dodo and we should all be prepared.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Does it make sense? No. Could it happen? IMO, yes.
I go from thinking this could be anywhere from £399 to £449.
The disc drive will be £149 (or more) IMO. Sony won't release a cheaper way of playing games (pre-owned they take no cut) that they have to manufacture and ship out to you for £99/£129.
We'll see though. Can't wait to see this, revisions are nearly always more aesthetically pleasing than launch consoles.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
Fully possible this will be a PS5 Slim with the same price as the current PS5 if not even more expensive. They could also phase out the digital and fat versions as a result and move to just this model.
Alternatively, they could read the room on a global recession and put this out for the same price as the PS5 Digital and if they can keep up with demand they could really start selling 30-40 million units a year, which is probably more in line with where they thought they'd be. They have a lot of catching up to do on market share, so this makes more sense to me than increasing the price of the SKU or removing the 400-dollar access price.
I don't think this attachment will work on PS5 Digitals.
It can also be seen as a move to mollify regulators. They probably preferred an all-digital version from the start, but I'm guessing counsel advised them against it. Right now they can charge developers a 30-dollar royalty on digital by saying that they don't make much profit on the hardware and that people can still buy physical discs instead of going to their store. If they went all digital they would end up in Apple Store territory and any legislation that impacts Apple would certainly impact them. This attachment largely shields them from said legislation while allowing them to drive up revenue since people are likely to buy this SKU and not buy the disc drive though it will be available.
My best guess is the new SKU retails for 400 USD and the attachment will retail for 150 USD.
Alternatively, they could read the room on a global recession and put this out for the same price as the PS5 Digital and if they can keep up with demand they could really start selling 30-40 million units a year, which is probably more in line with where they thought they'd be. They have a lot of catching up to do on market share, so this makes more sense to me than increasing the price of the SKU or removing the 400-dollar access price.
I don't think this attachment will work on PS5 Digitals.
It can also be seen as a move to mollify regulators. They probably preferred an all-digital version from the start, but I'm guessing counsel advised them against it. Right now they can charge developers a 30-dollar royalty on digital by saying that they don't make much profit on the hardware and that people can still buy physical discs instead of going to their store. If they went all digital they would end up in Apple Store territory and any legislation that impacts Apple would certainly impact them. This attachment largely shields them from said legislation while allowing them to drive up revenue since people are likely to buy this SKU and not buy the disc drive though it will be available.
My best guess is the new SKU retails for 400 USD and the attachment will retail for 150 USD.
MaxwellParrish
Member
At least here in Europe there really aren't that much, and you can see this from the fact that, both in physical sales spaces and on online vendor, the digital Ps5 is usually the one to last a little longer after a drop, even if the regular vastly outnumber it. Anyway, I'm fine with a console + attachement, I just hope is not a way for Sony to grow the final price of a disc Playstation