Tom Warren seems to throw cold water on rumours of Switch 2 being as capable as PS4 Pro

No shit

A Nintendo handheld console releasing in 2025 is going to be as worse if not worser than a mid-gen refresh released in 2016. Anyone who thinks otherwise is drunk on copuim and playing too much Zelda.
 
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If you're talking PS4Pro with a better cpu, then you're basically talking a Series S level handheld.
Can you honestly see that from Nintendo with this thing?.
 
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Just think…This will be the baseline for 90+% of Japanese AAA games going forward.

People who spent years complaining about Series S are about to have an aneurysm 😆
 
Weren't they supposedly showing off the Matrix/UE5 demo behind closed doors last year?

Seems pretty capable of punching above PS4 and PS4 Pro weight class if true, no?

We don't know what settings and resolution they used.

Matrix could run on PS4 pro with enough cuts (vs PS5 version).

So what, then? Series S?

Series S is faster than Pro. Teraflops are the same but RDNA2 had higher IPC than Polaris. Not to mention all other advancements.
 
It's a nine-year-old mid-gen refresh still using a 2013 Jaguar CPU. The Switch 2 is going to smoke it like Snoop Dogg.
Snoop is advertising smokeless lighters now didn't you hear? Maybe the Switch 2 will be his next smokeless endorsement.
 
Yep.

It will be more capable than PS4 for sure when docked but I don't think it will reach Pro level (in pure power, DLSS results might beat raw resolution).
But that's the thing. We're in a time where the end result is what matters. So, if it's better, who cares?

I say 2,7-3,2 TF docked.
 
In a stationary console, sure. But in a hybrid form factor? PS4 Pro-level plus modern architecture would be fantastic.

That would be a significant jump up from the Steam Deck, which is just about the only handheld PC in the same price range.

With that said, as much as I'd love to believe it, I'm not going to bet on a Pro-level Switch 2 let alone well-beyond.
You are right for a handheld the Switch 2 will be impressive for the price we can count on that.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves it'll be far behind other consoles, not to mention we're likely a year away from the next Xbox and 3 from the PS6.
 
I love Nintendo and hold them very near and dear to my heart but, anyone thinking this will be as powerful as a PS4 or even a Pro are fucking crazy! Nintendo know what the VAST majority of the population want, and that is a cheap(ish), affordable console that can play games the mainstream want (like the Switch does). Most don't give a fuck about graphics.
 
We don't know what settings and resolution they used.

Matrix could run on PS4 pro with enough cuts (vs PS5 version).



Series S is faster than Pro. Teraflops are the same but RDNA2 had higher IPC than Polaris. Not to mention all other advancements.

PS4 Pro flops are a tad higher than Series S but I get your point.


Well that's disappointing. DLSS and Frame Gen should still help elevate the Switch 2 far beyond it's raster capabilities.
 
Ps4 to ps4 pro hardware for 400 dollars is an abomination and embarrassment. No one wants to play 1080p at best 'it'll dip below that' at 30fps on a 4k screen man. This thing will be prehistoric tech wise on launch and will have an outdated LED screen on it too boot because they'll want to sell you an OLED version of it later lol. I know i'm being harsh but honestly it's the truth.
 
I love Nintendo and hold them very near and dear to my heart but, anyone thinking this will be as powerful as a PS4 or even a Pro are fucking crazy! Nintendo know what the VAST majority of the population want, and that is a cheap(ish), affordable console that can play games the mainstream want (like the Switch does). Most don't give a fuck about graphics.
While most don't give a fuck about graphics, the Switch 2 will need to be at least a PS4 in power to get third party games. And Nintendo wants those third party games.
 
Ps4 to ps4 pro hardware for 400 dollars is an abomination and embarrassment. No one wants to play 1080p at best 'it'll dip below that' at 30fps on a 4k screen man. This thing will be prehistoric tech wise on launch and will have an outdated LED screen on it too boot because they'll want to sell you an OLED version of it later lol. I know i'm being harsh but honestly it's the truth.

It's going to sell better than any other console this year. I know I'm being harsh but honestly it's the truth.
 
I was always of the mind that it would match the PS4 Pro graphics after DLSS is applied, not its actual hardware capabilities.
 
It's going to sell better than any other console this year. I know I'm being harsh but honestly it's the truth.

Ya it will cause alot of nintendo fans buy anything nintendo shovels out. People bought skyward sword 'remaster' that wasn't even a remaster because the textures of the original game weren't even touched lol 'alot of their remasters are lazy'. Nintendo is selling a 100 dollar alarm clock and people are gobbling it up. Just because it sells alot dosen't mean anything, it just means people will buy anything nintendo related even if the hardware inside of it is junk.
 
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Isn't he a journalist? If he knows all about it why hasn't he written an article with all the facts he has? His website seems to cover rumors about it but I didn't spot a factual article.
 
Who in the fuck cares how "powerful" its gonna be, the only thing it needs to deliver is games and backward compatible.

You are not buying Nintendo systems for high tech graphics.
 
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It's obvious that at current prices, expecting Nintendo to release a portable with the capacity of the PS4pro for $350 is very naive. Also the PS5pro was going to be a 4090 at $599...
 
So the Nintendo DS was the default console 7th generation.

Makes sense.

Just wait for COD to launch day and date on the Switch 2 next October.

game over streetfighter GIF
 
It's a nine-year-old mid-gen refresh still using a 2013 Jaguar CPU. The Switch 2 is going to smoke it like Snoop Dogg.

Running at a tenth the wattage?
I think he is implying that it is much more powerful than ps4 pro.

Thats why its "funniest" rumour.

Nah, I have no idea how you're reading that 'more powerful' stuff.
It sounds like it wouldn't be anywhere near as powerful as the PS4 Pro. Which was the logical expectation

Isn't he a journalist? If he knows all about it why hasn't he written an article with all the facts he has? His website seems to cover rumors about it but I didn't spot a factual article.

Why would any journalist do that?
 
Who in the fuck cares how "powerful" its gonna be, the only thing it needs to deliver is games and backward compatible.

You are not buying Nintendo systems for high tech graphics.
Every Nintendo hardware is preceded by wildly overinflated expectations from Nintendo fans. It's not that fans don't want high tech graphics from Nintendo, but they're still going to buy it regardless. They want to see a Zelda that is a match for Ratchet and Clank Rift in Time, but they'll have to wait 15 more years.
 
It's 2025. Nine years after the PS4 Pro.
Definitely below 500, maybe 400$.
Handheld form factor. And this means not a "handheld" PC brick.
With the current prices of semi-conductors.
With money wasted on joycons and dock.
And making a profit out of it day-one.

Expecting PS4 at best.
 
Every Nintendo hardware is preceded by wildly overinflated expectations from Nintendo fans. It's not that fans don't want high tech graphics from Nintendo, but they're still going to buy it regardless. They want to see a Zelda that is a match for Ratchet and Clank Rift in Time, but they'll have to wait 15 more years.
I personally don't fucking care the high the graphics couldn't save that game from being borefest (IMO).
 
And Nintendo is the richest company in the entire country of Japan sitting on a money bin full of cash and zero debt. They're doing something right.

Completely irrelevant to what we are discussing.

Did I hit a nerve?

They aren't either. Update your sources.
 
Raw power? No. Newest hardware that'll make run games that wouldn't works on PS4 Pro? Yes.

But these Twitter insiders doesn't know anything like everyone of us, they are just guessing and for some reason people want to believe.
 
Raw power? No. Newest hardware that'll make run games that wouldn't works on PS4 Pro? Yes.

But these Twitter insiders doesn't know anything like everyone of us, they are just guessing and for some reason people want to believe.
Steam Deck isn't close to PS4 Pro (not close to PS4 either), and Switch 2 will be a couple steps down from Steam Deck.
 
If DF is right, it should perform a bit better than PS4 and with DLSS be pretty close to PS4 Pro in image quality, but in terms of raw power it clearly won't be as good.


what the fuck is this thumbnail face trying to covey. he looks like just farted in a room full of ig models. i wouldnt click this video if my life depended on it off general principle.
 
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