Too Human review thread of scoring lower than Haze (BOOSH)

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The game is simply schizophrenic; it attempts to be all things to all people and never succeeds in executing any of them well. The end result is in dire need of polish and focus

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Raging Spaniard said:
Dennis just does what any game creator does, he fights for his game

Uh, hell no. Look at Gazunta and bishoptl, for example; their games got beat up by critics, and they haven't done any "for or against" stunts or spouted ridiculous pseudo-intellectual bullshit to justify dismissing the opinions of people who didn't like the games in question.

Which doesn't mean that crap like the MSPaint of Denis committing suicide is remotely defensible, but you're delusional if you don't think his handling of PR is largely responsible for the GAF backlash.
 
ElyrionX said:
I mean, for fuck's sake, it's not even a B or a 7 or 7.5. We're seeing a C and a 6.75.

If it was an 8, it's not great but it's not bad either. At the very least, it's something that Dyack could go on about. He could have started bitching about publications not recognizing the greatness of Too Human or something.

But this is just pathetic.
So what? He should slit his wrists because somebody at 1Up gave it a 7 instead of an 8?
 
Raging Spaniard said:
Dennis just does what any game creator does, he fights for his game, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Wrong, he insults people over his game, he blames eveyone else for his failures, goes on huge rants filled with pretentious waffle and assigns his game ludicrous qualities such as "changing the entire industry".

Maybe after this he'll learn this little thing called humility.
 
The 1up reviewer did not mention whether the game is a good dungeon-crawler.

Too Human is not an action game. Too Human is not an RPG. It's a dungeon-crawler. That is why SK I always threw around comparisons to PSO and Diablo.

Reviewers, compare the game to console dungeon crawlers such as Circle of Doom, Untold Legends, Champions of Norrath, Phantasy Star Online, Phantasy Star Universe, Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance.

How does it stack up to them?

Any review that does not do that is worthless. Like reviews that said KUF was not a good RTS like it's prequels. No shit. The dev said it was a dungeon-hack like Diablo...not an RTS, not an action-game, and not a turn-based RPG.

Guess what PS3 fanboys. This game is better than any dungeon-hack that has been released for PS3 so far. Even KUF:Circle of Doom is better than your precious Untold Legends. That is how pathetic the state of this genre of games is on your system. You have nothing to gloat about.
 
Spirit of Jazz said:
Terrible review needless to say, neither informative nor intelligent it seems (can't see how there's no difference in the classes, maybe if he mentioned they seemed more suited to 4 player co-op his view would seem more valid) Also it means nothing given there's no other reviews of his to compare it with, though there are only a few people at one up that given decent reviews anyway.

Hole-E-Fuck

And JohnTinker, you should go back and edit post 121. That stuff is bannable.

I think the 1up review was good, and it did help clairify some of the issues I had with the demo and hoped wouldn't be present in the full game (although on the loot front there seems to be some leeway as shown in the official thread). I will probably rent this when I get gamefly.
 
NEO Frog said:
Guess what PS3 fanboys. This game is better than any dungeon-hack that has been released for PS3 so far. Even KUF:Circle of Doom is better than your precious Untold Legends. That is how pathetic the state of this genre of games is on your system. You have nothing to gloat about.

Don't be such a knobhead
 
bigmakstudios said:
Why are people acting like this is some sort of victory for them? It's honestly a little disturbing.

VERY good question. And I don't really know why I or anyone should care about these stupid scores. The so called videogame journalism (lol) failed so many times, why bother?
 
Father_Brain said:
Uh, hell no. Look at Gazunta and bishoptl, for example; their games got beat up by critics, and they haven't done any "for or against" stunts or spouted ridiculous pseudo-intellectual bullshit to justify dismissing the opinions of people who didn't like the games in question.

I absolutely agree with your point, but to be fair Denis and Too Human were getting extensively trolled way before the demo even hit.

Also :lol at people who think the game is going be bomb, especially because of these reviews. There will be a few hundred people online who will point to these scores and not buy it, but the vast majority of people won't know or care about the scores. The game will be out before the mass market has a print review in their hands, it's been getting decent advertising, and they've got a pretty decent xbox.com splash page. The casual and mass market will see a 'cool-looking' game with co-op and guns and swords and shit, and eat it up. Dynasty Warriors gets donged on way more in reviews, and most, if not all of the entries in the main series clear a million sold in the US. I agree with the poster who said that this will sell well regardless, and a sequel is assured; however the sequel's success will depend on if people like this after picking it up or not. I've got a few friends at work who are in-between casual and hardcore (they own all systems, but don't browse extensively online or anything), and they all thought the demo was great and looked cool, and are going to buy it.

I'm still very curious what the other 2 EGMs score were though. We've seen lead reviews be much lower than the other 2 scores, so I'm curious if this was an across the board feeling or not.
 
dermannmitdemcolt said:
VERY good question. And I don't really know why I or anyone should care about these stupid scores. The so called videogame journalism (lol) failed so many times, why bother?

well, with this review there is pretty much no information besides the score, so...
 
Mamesj said:
yes, killzone 1 sucked, and no, we have no idea how Killzone 2 will play. but it sure has pretty graphics.
his point was that it'll sell, cuz it managed to generate hype regardless of how crappy the first was.
 
ElyrionX said:
No, he should learn to shut the fuck up when his game is as pathetic as Too Human.


Or maybe he knew and generating negative hype on the neogaf was a desperate attempt to gain extra sales?


I still think the saddest thing about the game is that the player character in the demo is clearly modeled after Dyack's face...something just so corny about that in a game like this :lol
 
RyuHayate said:
He was at Ziff when OPM went under and he and a few others went to Gametap's editorial team. That went under, too and now he's back at Ziff.

Edit: Oh, whoops. Seems like others ITT have answered your question. My apologies!


So he was a writer for the Official Playstion Magazine, that went under and his first gig coming back to Ziff was to review Too Human? They might as well have gotten Shane to review it :lol
 
FabCam said:
and the joke passed right over your head...

Bad comparisson is bad, is not that Killzone 2 has assured millions of sales, is not that it received the major campaign of hype and marketing in a long time, it's not that it have one of the major budgets in history of gaming, is not that Killzone had that bad reviews, is not that it received a spin off that put the killzone name in the quality camp...

Any comparisson with the possible Too Human 2 is just pure fantasy...

Fable 2 and Fable is a much appropiate comparison...
 
NEO Frog said:
The 1up reviewer did not mention whether the game is a good dungeon-crawler.

Too Human is not an action game. Too Human is not an RPG. It's a dungeon-crawler. That is why SK I always threw around comparisons to PSO and Diablo.

Reviewers, compare the game to console dungeon crawlers such as Circle of Doom, Untold Legends, Champions of Norrath, Phantasy Star Online, Phantasy Star Universe, Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance.

How does it stack up to them?

Any review that does not do that is worthless. Like reviews that said KUF was not a good RTS like it's prequels. No shit. The dev said it was a dungeon-hack like Diablo...not an RTS, not an action-game, and not a turn-based RPG.

Guess what PS3 fanboys. This game is better than any dungeon-hack that has been released for PS3 so far. Even KUF:Circle of Doom is better than your precious Untold Legends. That is how pathetic the state of this genre of games is on your system. You have nothing to gloat about.

You're going to go far here :lol

(at you, not with you)
 
PSGames said:
So he was a writer for the Official Playstion Magazine, that went under and his first gig coming back to Ziff was to review Too Human? They might as well have gotten Shane to review it :lol

Giancarlo is far from being a PS fanboy. If anything I seem to recall him being a big Dreamcast fan.
 
PSGames said:
So he was a writer for the Official Playstion Magazine, that went under and his first gig coming back to Ziff was to review Too Human? They might as well have gotten Shane to review it :lol

Shane has been a huge Too Human advocate. At least his review would have been well written and, you know, longer than the fucking Geometry Wars 2 review.
 
PSGames said:
So he was a writer for the Official Playstion Magazine, that went under and his first gig coming back to Ziff was to review Too Human? They might as well have gotten Shane to review it :lol

Umm.. Shane loved Too Human.
 
Dirtbag 504 said:
You're going to go far here :lol
It's true. And without BC...you can't even play Champions of Norrath on PS3 anymore.

KUF:Circle of Doom and Too Human are definitely better than Untold Legends. Untold Legends is one of the crappiest dungeon-hacks I have ever played.
 
NEO Frog said:
It's true. And without BC...you can't even play Champions of Norrath on PS3 anymore.

KUF:Circle of Doom and Too Human are definitely better than Untold Legends. Untold Legends is one of the crappiest dungeon-hacks I have ever played.

Let it go dude, no need for that system wars crap. This thread has nothing to do with anything related to the PS3.
 
you poor lambs, 1UP has set a trap and everyone fell for it :P all this controversy and conspiracy theories is only giving them more clicks and traffic than ever :P won't be surprised i every gaming site tries to capitalize on Too Human's reviews from some traffic.


...now ^ THAT'S how a conspiracy theory should read like :lol
 
NEO Frog said:
It's true. And without BC...you can't even play Champions of Norrath on PS3 anymore.

KUF:Circle of Doom and Too Human are definitely better than Untold Legends. Untold Legends is one of the crappiest dungeon-hacks I have ever played.

And your point is....?

What has to do systemwars with this thread?

Do you think that a lot of the hate from this game come from PS3 braindead fanboys?
 
PSGames said:
So he was a writer for the Official Playstion Magazine, that went under and his first gig coming back to Ziff was to review Too Human? They might as well have gotten Shane to review it :lol

You selective stalkers are creepy as hell. Do it right if you want to stalk properly.

He was also at Gamespot, and Gametap, and Nintendo Power.
 
NEO Frog said:
Guess what PS3 fanboys. This game is better than any dungeon-hack that has been released for PS3 so far. Even KUF:Circle of Doom is better than your precious Untold Legends. That is how pathetic the state of this genre of games is on your system. You have nothing to gloat about.

NEO Frog said:
It's true. And without BC...you can't even play Champions of Norrath on PS3 anymore.

KUF:Circle of Doom and Too Human are definitely better than Untold Legends. Untold Legends is one of the crappiest dungeon-hacks I have ever played.

*facepalm*
 
NEO Frog said:
Guess what PS3 fanboys. This game is better than any dungeon-hack that has been released for PS3 so far. Even KUF:Circle of Doom is better than your precious Untold Legends. That is how pathetic the state of this genre of games is on your system. You have nothing to gloat about.

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You wear that tag well.
 
Relaxed Muscle said:
Do you think that a lot of the hate from this game come from PS3 braindead fanboys?
Yes. And from people who never gave a shit about the game in the first place. And especially people who don't like dungeon-hacks.
 
NEO Frog said:
It's true. And without BC...you can't even play Champions of Norrath on PS3 anymore.

KUF:Circle of Doom and Too Human are definitely better than Untold Legends. Untold Legends is one of the crappiest dungeon-hacks I have ever played.


You're comparing shit to shit to shit here, dude.
 
NEO Frog said:
It's true. And without BC...you can't even play Champions of Norrath on PS3 anymore.

KUF:Circle of Doom and Too Human are definitely better than Untold Legends. Untold Legends is one of the crappiest dungeon-hacks I have ever played.
If you think the only people waiting to tear Too Human apart are PS3 fanboys, well then you're wrong.
 
Jinfash said:
you poor lambs, 1UP has set a trap and everyone fell for it :P all this controversy and conspiracy theories is only giving them more clicks and traffic than ever :P won't be surprised i every gaming site tries to capitalize on Too Human's reviews from some traffic.


...now ^ THAT'S how a conspiracy theory should read like :lol

really dude?

I hope this is sarcasm, because that's just plain, well.... silly.


EDIT:Nah, must be sarcasm. This thread is just getting a little crazy. I think the sharks smell blood in the water.
 
Cardon said:
Giancarlo is far from being a PS fanboy. If anything I seem to recall him being a big Dreamcast fan.

My point is why is this review so freakin short with no details? I mean when an XBLA game has a more in-depth review something's wrong.
 
NEO Frog said:
It's true. And without BC...you can't even play Champions of Norrath on PS3 anymore.

KUF:Circle of Doom and Too Human are definitely better than Untold Legends. Untold Legends is one of the crappiest dungeon-hacks I have ever played.
Young Padawan... you should shut the fuck up :lol
 
Zenith said:
4.5, guys, 4.5
There's no way to know if the reviewer would've given this a 4.5 if they were using a number scale. The whole staff frowns upon converting the grades to numbers (which defeats the switch to the letter scale).

Are you saying the reviewer came up with the number, then translated it to a letter grade? It just seems to go against what 1up reviewers have said in the past about the switch.
 
sp0rsk said:
You're comparing shit to shit to shit here, dude.
Dude, that is how bad it is in this genre. It's all we have to play whether you are on PS3 or 360. And Too Human is far better than Untold Legends.

We can always hope that Sacred2 will be much better though. It at least has 4-player co-op.
 
PSGames said:
Ok then, why is this review so freakin short with no details? I mean when an XBLA game has a more in-depth review something's wrong.


What other details do you need?
 
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