Too Human review thread of scoring lower than Haze (BOOSH)

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Keyser Soze said:
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:D :D :D
 
Dirtbag 504 said:
really dude?

I hope this is sarcasm, because that's just plain, well.... silly.


EDIT:Nah, most be sarcasm.
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dude if i couldn't make that look sarcastic then i REALLY have to get back to school and learn some more English :/
 
PSGames said:
Ok then, why is this review so freakin short with no details? I mean when an XBLA game has a more in-depth review something's wrong.
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I have no problem with people giving criticism for his review being short but don't give me that "he's a PS fanboy, teh conspiracy continues" shit.
 
Jinfash said:
dude if i couldn't make that seem sarcastic then i REALLY have to get back to school and learn some more English :/
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I'm off today... it's me, not you :lol

sp0rsk said:
What other details do you need?
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I tend to agree with this, but it's not very typical of a higher profile launch... And a game that's what, 10 years in the making and exclusive, pretty much qualifies as high-profile.
 
Relaxed Muscle said:
C- is average, as far as I know 4.5 is NOT average.

If 4.5 was average that means I failed in a lot of test when I should not....
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C- is not average.

5 was the "average."
 
Father_Brain said:
Uh, hell no. Look at Gazunta and bishoptl, for example; their games got beat up by critics, and they haven't done any "for or against" stunts or spouted ridiculous pseudo-intellectual bullshit to justify dismissing the opinions of people who didn't like the games in question.

Which doesn't mean that crap like the MSPaint of Denis committing suicide is remotely defensible, but you're delusional if you don't think his handling of PR is largely responsible for the GAF backlash.
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This is spot on. Denis brought on all the hate and hyped the hate up with his for or against stunt and then the subsequent 1up interview/experiment nonsense. The reason people have a personal interest in this game failing is because Dyack himself dared us to wish for its failure. For or against and the belligerent nonsense about the so called experiment, is why people are in here laughing and dancing on Too Human's grave.

I don't wish failure on anyone, and I certainly wish Too Human was a good game. That said, I find the whole affair entertaining, and the fact that Denis talked the game up so much is why these bad reviews are both entertaining and funny. I feel sorry for everyone that works at SK, because Denis royally screwed the PR up on this one. He needs to hand ALL PR to someone else and put his nose to the grindstone and focus purely on the business/game end next time around.

That dude who hyped up Haze is probably looking for a job, and hiring him is probably not the way to go. I think the art of hyping games has changed significantly in the past few years, and macho chest beating about how awesome your game is doesn't work anymore.
 
Relaxed Muscle said:
C- is average, as far as I know 4.5 is NOT average.

If 4.5 was average that means I failed in a lot of test when I should not....
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That might be average if your school had a 10% graduation rate and more crack dealers than teachers.
 
Odrion said:
also by 1up's standard this game is as good as Ultimate Ghouls N' Ghosts.
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*sigh*

When will GAF learn, different games different reviewers. "1up" is not a comittee.
 
Relaxed Muscle said:
C- is average, as far as I know 4.5 is NOT average.

If 4.5 was average that means I failed in a lot of test when I should not....
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I'm just going by 1UP's own review scale.
 
Darkman M said:
Most people already counted too human as fail a long time ago, lair was hyped as the next big thing.
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People always say this, but there was a LOT of negativity surrounding Lair before it was released. It wasn't at Too Human levels, though I'd say it was at Too Human levels prior to the for or against stunt.
 
Agreed.

People need to stop comparing Too Human to other titles because it got a similar score. You can't compare TH to Lair purely on the review from 1up. Both are entirely different types of games.
 
Darkman M said:
Most people already counted too human as fail a long time ago, lair was hyped as the next big thing.
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And also Too Human seems to function as a game. Lair is just a huge mess of code and polygons.
 
Gbeav said:
Nah they screw up too. Nick likes giving out high scores and Garnett doesn't know baseball.

It really doesn't matter.
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damn... people cant read today.... I stated I may not agree with all their reviews.
 
I'm just going by 1UP's own review scale.
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1up's review is not scalable Zenith. The letter system does not scale into any number which is why 1up decided to switch grading systems. Only the games reviewed before the new system were converted as to provide consistency for the network.
 
God damn the point of the switch to the letter score is to remove the need to minute discussion about pointless numbers and averages. Compare it to school. Is C- a good grade? No it's not, so Too Human is not a good game. Is it average or a bit below average? Who cares, if it were school and you got that mark your Mom would be pissed when she saw it.

Any game that gets that low of a score is solidly in the "ignore" category for me, regardless of whether it's technically average if you do some magic fake conversion to numbers.
 
DemonSwordsman said:
yeah they just end up working for them. But really, i just think their reviews are crap and they just try so hard to appear unbiased or something but really they are worse than most other sites.
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since when do they try being unbiased... example, its pretty Clear Shane isn't a fan of WRPG's or shooters.
 
Its a shit review though as it doesnt go into any detail of plot or even graphics quality sound etc... Just seemed to me to be you all know already what its like Im telling you its shit end of. Reading the first page I thought Id missed a page and where is the details about multiplayer other than he thinks its better because its not got cutscenes. What modes does it have etc..? Its not a good RPG and? Is it a good hack and slash then yea or nay?

If the games shit then fine I will just cancel it but Im not basing it on a shit review with a few bits of crap text and some massive screen grabs inbetween.
 
Union Carbine said:
This review clearly spells teh doom. Nobody on the GAF has ever enjoyed a game that's scored below 90. When talking about games, we should not speak of gameplay, only of scoreplay. Let's only deal with the important issues.
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ElyrionX said:
I mean, for fuck's sake, it's not even a B or a 7 or 7.5. We're seeing a C and a 6.75.

If it was an 8, it's not great but it's not bad either. At the very least, it's something that Dyack could go on about. He could have started bitching about publications not recognizing the greatness of Too Human or something.

But this is just pathetic.
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I laughed a bit. Good old gaf.
 
Tiktaalik said:
God damn the point of the switch to the letter score is to remove the need to minute discussion about pointless numbers and averages. Compare it to school. Is C- a good grade? No it's not, so Too Human is not a good game. Is it average or a bit below average? Who cares, if it were school and you got that mark your Mom would be pissed when she saw it.

Any game that gets that low of a score is solidly in the "ignore" category for me, regardless of whether it's technically average if you do some magic fake conversion to numbers.
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Poor analogy; a child gets a poor mark because they're stupid, a game gets a poor mark because either they or the reviewer are shit, and by the quality of the writing...
 
Does the looting still sound fun to a person who loves looting and upgrading? Yes, I think so.

Does the combat still sound fun to someone who was satisfied by Dark Alliance-style combat? Yes.

Does the game sound like an improvement over Champions of Norath? Not in all ways. But in some ways, yes.

Does the multiplayer still sound fun? Yes.

So, I'm still happy. I play games to have fun. And I still think that my brother and I are going to have a fucking fun time playing this game over XBL. Why care about anything else?
 
Dazzyman said:
Its a shit review though as it doesnt go into any detail of plot or even graphics quality sound etc... Just seemed to me to be you all know already what its like Im telling you its shit end of. Reading the first page I thought Id missed a page and where is the details about multiplayer other than he thinks its better because its not got cutscenes. What modes does it have etc..? Its not a good RPG and? Is it a good hack and slash then yea or nay?

If the games shit then fine I will just cancel it but Im not basing it on a shit review with a few bits of crap text and some massive screen grabs inbetween.
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That is my problem with the review, not the score. I want details. There was not details in that review. Sounded like the guy does not know what a dungeon-hack is.
 
sp0rsk said:
What other details do you need?
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The enemies, the story, how the controls work, level design, graphics, etc... I mean give me enough info so I can make an informed purchase decision...
 
From Jeff Green:

And, for what it's worth, though it's certainly not my place to say, and so I'll shut up until others with more authority (since I am merely a PC guy) show up to talk about it: The other 2 reviews that go with this for EGM magazine---written by guys you apparently know better--don't veer much away from this score at all.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12436788&postcount=722
Yikes. Was Shane on the review? Color me surprised if he was..
 
Tiktaalik said:
Any game that gets that low of a score is solidly in the "ignore" category for me, regardless of whether it's technically average if you do some magic fake conversion to numbers.
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Forgive me, but that's unbelievable dumb and ignorant. I wonder how many great games you missed with this narrow attitude...
 
TruthJunky said:
Does the looting still sound fun to a person who loves looting and upgrading? Yes, I think so.

Does the combat still sound fun to someone who was satisfied by Dark Alliance-style combat? Yes.

Does the game sound like an improvement over Champions of Norath? Not in all ways. But in some ways, yes.

Does the multiplayer still sound fun? Yes.

So, I'm still happy. I play games to have fun. And I still think that my brother and I are going to have a fucking fun time playing this game over XBL. Why care about anything else?
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HI-5
 
PSGames said:
The enemies, the story, how the controls work, level design, graphics, etc... I mean give me enough info so I can make an informed purchase decision...
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There is a demo.......
 
TruthJunky said:
Does the looting still sound fun to a person who loves looting and upgrading? Yes, I think so.

Does the combat still sound fun to someone who was satisfied by Dark Alliance-style combat? Yes.

Does the game sound like an improvement over Champions of Norath? Not in all ways. But in some ways, yes.

Does the multiplayer still sound fun? Yes.

So, I'm still happy. I play games to have fun. And I still think that my brother and I are going to have a fucking fun time playing this game over XBL. Why care about anything else?
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the demo was fun for me after I initially hated it, based on what aI played id give it an 8... the thing is that DD was constantly glorifying his game as a leap in gaming and has been on multiple whining sprees, so the backlash is understandable.
 
EGM stopped doing 3-person reviews for all games. Does anyone know if Too Human will get 3 reviews, or will 1Up's be the only one.

drohne said:
and no, the volubility of too human's creator does not make it more worthy of scrutiny than any other inept game
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Whether the game is great and misunderstood or legitimately bad, they have kinda treated it like some no-name title from a 3rd tier publisher. Just a 1-page review from a new employee that their reader base doesn't know very well. Regardless of the score, I thought they would at least have someone write a little more about it than that.
 
They might as well wrote the review like this.

Too Human.

Run, jump, combo, loot, and lolz with a bald headed space guy.

Want more, grab a friend.

Story is cyberpunk barf.

Finish hamsandwhich and remove disc from tray.
 
As much as I'd like to think I'm open minded and didn't wish this game (which I was interested in awhile back) would crash and burn, I smile every time I see it slammed in a review. I guess that's what acting like an asshole (non-anonymously, too!) on a public forum will do.

Soooooooo much more fun to be had with it now, too!
 
border said:
EGM stopped doing 3-person reviews for all games. Does anyone know if Too Human will get 3 reviews, or will 1Up's be the only one.


Whether the game is great and misunderstood or legitimately bad, they have kinda treated it like some no-name title from a 3rd tier publisher. Just a 1-page review from a new employee that their reader base doesn't know very well. Regardless of the score, I thought they would at least have someone write a little more about it than that.
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Black Dragon AKA Jeff Green says there is a 3 man review in EGM and that the scores in there are not much different

EDIT: Fuck...Beaten
 
Jirotrom said:
the demo was fun for me after I initially hated it, based on what aI played id give it an 8... the thing is that DD was constantly glorifying his game as a leap in gaming and has been on multiple whining sprees, so the backlash is understandable.
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It is understandble in the same way that it is understandable when an arrogant kid gets punched in the mouth on his elementary school playground. "Understandable" in a certain sense, but hardly reasonable or worthwhile.

It is just too bad that people get caught up in this stuff. We should want all games to be good and fun. That's the whole point of video games. They're supposed to be fucking fun. I don't understand why someone would have more fun mocking a bad game than playing a good one; but that's the only thing that can make sense of some of this stuff that is going on with Too Human.

As far as I can tell, Too Human will do a solid job of feeding my craving for multiplayer loot whoring. Sounds fun. Sounds far from perfect, but sounds fun.
 
Won said:
There is a demo.......
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Of course, I've played it and liked it... but that doesn't give me a feel for the entire game and how it plays at higher levels. Also what about the people that have no access to the demo?
 
Mamesj said:
hahaha, u need a $2000 PC to play...oh wait. Everyone can play the best hack and slash of all time at about half the price of Too Hooman.
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Dude, don't you know how hard it is to put a new video card in? I don't have six million dollars to build a PC man. I'm not made of money.
 
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