Seriously, haha.
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ToQGAF 2014 | Hanamichi! The Next Stop Is Imagination's Stage!
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Seriously, haha.
I'd say less so since Inoue doesn't seem to care for Sentai since the 90s.
EDIT: Episode one of Drive was pretty solid. I like what I'm seeing.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I love it when someone said RPM GET IN GEAR on the tire change attack, riled up people in /m/
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Enjoyed the first ep of Drive. He has a dumb cg rider kick but I liked the idea of it.
Didn't like the weird stutter editting they use on some of the characters for comedy, it was the worst part of Gaim and I was hoping they'd get away from that.
I hope the first episode budget wasn't blown on putting wires on people and throwing them around. The action in this episode was pretty good and I'd like it to continue.
Also that lady straight up shot people.
Didn't like the weird stutter editting they use on some of the characters for comedy, it was the worst part of Gaim and I was hoping they'd get away from that.
I hope the first episode budget wasn't blown on putting wires on people and throwing them around. The action in this episode was pretty good and I'd like it to continue.
Also that lady straight up shot people.
Nah, it was probably blown on the cold open and the CG toy cars.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That stuttering thing has been in some older Sentai too. They want to emulate anime humor I guess.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Its toku related so I see no reason not to discuss it here. Is the anime friendly for someone who wasn't watched any Garo yet?
Edag Plata
Banned
The whole show is completely separate from the live action version. You don't need to know anything really as far as I know.
Triple Da G.O.D!
Member
Kiriko's a beast. She's going to be the balance the show needs early on because she'll be the eyes we'll be seeing Drive through this season.
Speaking of Kiriko and also thinking about Minato as well is that will Kamen Rider ever get to a point where the lead rider can be a female?
I know about marketing and how it could never work in that aspect but if you rip all of that away could a strong female lead rider carry a series?
Giving her everything a great lead male rider has had with a great story, awesome powers and a great supporting cast could it work?
And I can't stop listening to Surprise-Drive! Why does this happen every time a new show premieres? If Sentai & Rider do something constantly well is a song to get you in the mood for action!
Kamen Rider Drive 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBP7xH348cI
That opening was dark. I wonder how many people died from that besides his partner.
I see this year's toy gimmick is Hot Wheels and giant ass tires. The tires really do look silly.
At least the action was decent.
I know I'm still on OOO and need to watch Fourze and Gaim, but I might as well keep up to date with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBP7xH348cI
That opening was dark. I wonder how many people died from that besides his partner.
I see this year's toy gimmick is Hot Wheels and giant ass tires. The tires really do look silly.
At least the action was decent.
I know I'm still on OOO and need to watch Fourze and Gaim, but I might as well keep up to date with this.
OOO has the best characters/actors, keep at it.
I can't be the only one who thought this is Maya Uchida making a cameo in Drive?(Hakase from Akibaranger, Aoi Z-cune)
You mean that's not her? I thought she had a cameo and I wonder why in such a small role, lol.
Edag Plata
Banned
Terrible questions but those guys are great.
MHWilliams
Member
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
hahaha oh wow, found this at /m/
any idea where this is from?
any idea where this is from?
hahaha oh wow, found this at /m/
any idea where this is from?
This is causing my brain to shut down.
Drive, fun.
Googling the text didn't find the source, but either way, this kid will have his mind blown if he ever finds out the truth.
Kamen Rider Drive (Masked Rider Drive)
From Riko Sanjo, the writer behind classics as Kamen Rider W, Fourze, and Kyoryuger; a show about a young detective who finds himself using the powers of an incredible car to stop monsters that can seemingly control time.
Visit the NeoGAF Kamen Rider Drive Official Thread
Where to watch:
Japan: 8 AM Sundays on TV Asahi.
Elsewhere: Fan subs provided by Over-Time
hahaha oh wow, found this at /m/
any idea where this is from?
Googling the text didn't find the source, but either way, this kid will have his mind blown if he ever finds out the truth.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Reminds me of tumblr tho
Date-senpai...
everyone needs more date in their lives.
Finally watched Drive 1 and ToQger 30 today.
Drive constant car noises make me really want to play The Getaway - High Speed II. That and the Formula One (prior to this season) engine sounds are enough to keep me watching the series.
The detective stuff and Faiz stance are just icing on the cake - I could swear he even did some sort of crazy hand movement at some time. It's worth nothing that during the henshin, you can see how the actor that plays the detective is much taller than the suit actor.
Regarding ToQger 30, all I have to say is that "the female members of the team have a special attack together" trope from early Sentai came back full force in this one.
I'm excited for Drive's more somber overall tone. ToQger is still something I'm watching because I already watched 30 episodes of it, so might as well.
Drive constant car noises make me really want to play The Getaway - High Speed II. That and the Formula One (prior to this season) engine sounds are enough to keep me watching the series.
The detective stuff and Faiz stance are just icing on the cake - I could swear he even did some sort of crazy hand movement at some time. It's worth nothing that during the henshin, you can see how the actor that plays the detective is much taller than the suit actor.
Regarding ToQger 30, all I have to say is that "the female members of the team have a special attack together" trope from early Sentai came back full force in this one.
I'm excited for Drive's more somber overall tone. ToQger is still something I'm watching because I already watched 30 episodes of it, so might as well.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Didnt even get past the first paragragh.
Edag Plata
Banned
dat first paragraph
"Even if I'm the devil... you will play your part in my plan"
How the hell does TV-Nihon still have fans? Much less fans that believe Over-Time is "inaccurate". I mean... wow
Mr. Pointy
Member
Jesus I hate tumblr's page formatting so much.
You mean the wrist motion Faiz used to do? Drive did it twice after transforming.
Mr. Pointy
Member
New Drive retail scans out. Big spoilers. Seriously don't click this shit, there's only been one episode.
- Secondary Rider...
Is Kamen Rider Mach. Rides a bike, has toy bikes that slot into his belt Faiz phone style. Silhouette looks like Cyclone. Colour scheme looks like IXA.
It's Machine Chaser's Rider upgrade.
- Movie toys.
Gaim Car gives Drive a new form with a tire on his head samurai straw hat style, and the Daidaimaru and Musou Saber. Drive Lockseed gives Gaim that steering wheel sword and the door gun.
Nothing that shocking.
Mr. Pointy
Member
True. I figured some people might want to wait until it appears closer to the TV date. I just remembered how far Gaim bumped the schedule back.
Anyone following the
Taxranger rumour?
Yeah, the Faiz "wrist flair". I just sucked at putting my thoughts into words on that message, including typos and all.
Faiz Stance, Faiz Wrist Flair... this might be alright
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Teenagers I guess
http://instagram.com/p/t1PSnappzf
The black guy could be one of the Spirit Rangers.
Because some people just don't care about fansub wars. I know I never did or ever will. As long as I understand what's going on, I'll watch.
Well, there are a couple of reasons that I know of:
Impressions
TV-N adds a lot of flair to their releases, from some fan artwork at the start of each video to fancy Karaoke effects any time a belt or announcer says something, including special attacks. It feels premium, especially when they see other subs which use simple text.
Distribution
People want to watch things via streaming. There's nothing wrong with that, it's the ultimate way to watch something with the most convenience and least work required. Why would anyone want to do otherwise and go through the trouble? So they go to streaming sites like Youtube, Facebook, Dailymotion, etc.
Because TV-N uses formats like MP4's and subtitles that are hardcoded into the video file itself, it makes those the easiest ones to upload to those sites, so those are the ones that get distributed the most. Unless you can find an uploader who took the time to convert the Over-Time or Aesir MKV's into a hardcoded MP4 and upload it to Youtube, the vast, vast, vast majority of people will be watching the TV-N version. It's all they know.
Perceived Video Quality
For some reason, Over-Time does not do HD hardsubs; their MP4 releases are in SD. Meanwhile, TV-N releases their videos in both SD and HD versions. It's true that TV-Ns video releases have atrocious video quality (O-T's SD videos show more detail than even the HD versions of TV-N), but the regular viewer is not going to know that. If an uploader tries to upload an O-T release, the video player for the streaming website is always going to say 480p or SD; but if the uploader puts up an HD TV-N release, the video player will say that this is an HD video. No amount of convincing will convince someone to watch an SD video over an HD one, even if the SD one is in better quality.
That's why in a lot of Facebook and Youtube channels, streamers upload the O-T version as soon as it's available, but then replace it with the TV-N version once it comes out, because it is perceived as a higher quality release, both because of the format and the fancy additions shown above.
Misconceptions about translation
Let's get this out of the way first, anyone who is bilingual and knows the translation practices of TV-N knows that what they are doing can't possibly be right. Translating not only by ear, but direct translations of sentences, means that they are completely ravishing the original line, because languages don't work like that. A direct analogue of a word or phrase in another language is for the vast majority of the time not going to have the exact same meaning as it did in it's original language, because due to syntax and cultural differences, it means something slightly (and sometimes, wildly) different. When you apply this to written dialogue, the divergence over original intent and translated word will become even more severe.
I myself don't know Japanese, but I constantly see Japanese speakers and readers constantly baffled by the crazy stuff TV-N writes (including writing a whole blog around it). I know we have a fellow TokuGaffer here that is very knowledgable about translations, I'd like his input here as well, maybe he can add to or disagree with what I am writing.
But all of this is ignoring another problem...which is that TV-N a lot of times simply doesn't translate things. I recently saw Millionfold's and O-T's Goseiger vs. Shinkenger release, and was absolutely astonished when I saw the names for the villains and attacks translated. As it turns out, Shinkenger was a season that was all about Japanese historical and theatrical culture; and you wouldn't have realized how much of it was until you learned what all the enemies were names after. TV-N didn't bother to translate any of it, so you missed out. Same thing happened for Gekiranger, Dekaranger, and countless other series where random things were left untranslated and the viewing audience understood less than the 6 year olds watching the show in Japan.
This is even more problematic due to....
Hearsay
Because Over-Time and other sub groups actually bother to make sure the English speaking audience understands the show as much as 6 year olds in Japan do, they translate words to their best English analogue (which may or may not be it's direct one for obvious reasons as described before). But to those who don't understand this, it's as if they are changing the content of the show, "making things up". This makes it seem as if O-T and others are unreliable and incorrect translations, when the opposite is true. If there is something inaccurate about a translation, they tend to fix it quickly with a V2, unlike TV-N which does not fix it all (and even tries to defend their mistakes by saying it's what the show really meant instead of what the show actually said). That actually literally is changing the show and making things up, but because they don't translate names and phrases and syntax, it appears as if they are the ones that are keeping it "pure".
Fanboyism
Also, some people are just fanboys, they have been watching their stuff since Dekaranger aired and aren't going to change their minds.
It's just a lot of little problems that add up to create a big problem.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Just want to say: Willy, that is a goddamn fantastic post, man.
Oh wow.
And since Toku isn't getting official simulcasts, they're the biggest game in town.
I just don't know how people can watch it.
I tried watching their Goseiger subs, and it was all "TRANSLATION NOTE: BLAH MEANS BLORG". Shinkenger was way worse.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I don't know if the TVN people know Japanese or not, but based on what I've seen of their sub's they definitely don't know English.
Going off a lot of their subs, they seem to know, like... high school, first year college Japanese. Their refusal to use the scripts and going by ear hurts them badly.
shaowebb
Member
Kamen Rider SummonRide for PS3/Wii U got itself a trailer. Looks pretty decent. Seems like you can get Rider figures to place on a Skylander's style summoning gate and then you play that Rider. You can additionally place a Rider Chip next to that figure to change their forms to the one on the chip. I'm not certain on the next part, but it looks like if you place a Rider chip next to the wrong Rider (ie a Hyper Kabuto next to say Kamen Rider Gaim) then they appear as an assist character beside you...may be wrong on that one. May be a seperate thing.
Looks fun
Full story and trailer here
Anyone gonna do a thread for this? Looks like it should sell a lot of stuff.
Looks fun
Full story and trailer here
Anyone gonna do a thread for this? Looks like it should sell a lot of stuff.