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ToQGAF 2014 | Hanamichi! The Next Stop Is Imagination's Stage!

javadoze

Member
Anybody remember the indie game Chroma Squad?

Apparently Saban contacted the team creating the game and gave them the option of either: shutting them down, or a royalty cut. Either way, it really sucks to see a passion project like this be put under fire by Saban acting like they own the concept of a sentai team.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Anybody remember the indie game Chroma Squad?

Apparently Saban contacted the team creating the game and gave them the option of either: shutting them down, or a royalty cut. Either way, it really sucks to see a passion project like this be put under fire by Saban acting like they own the concept of a sentai team.

*looks that up*
What the hell Saban? There's no legal standing here.
Stop being greedy dicks.
 
Anybody remember the indie game Chroma Squad?

Apparently Saban contacted the team creating the game and gave them the option of either: shutting them down, or a royalty cut. Either way, it really sucks to see a passion project like this be put under fire by Saban acting like they own the concept of a sentai team.

Are you kidding me? Is there a link detailing this?
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
Anybody remember the indie game Chroma Squad?

Apparently Saban contacted the team creating the game and gave them the option of either: shutting them down, or a royalty cut. Either way, it really sucks to see a passion project like this be put under fire by Saban acting like they own the concept of a sentai team.

Saban needs to fuck off into space. They have no legal ground to stand on here. They don't own the concept of a Sentai team, and anyway, the Chroma Squad devs are in Brazil, and I'm pretty sure Saban has no legal power there.

Plus if they had any legal ground here, they'd need to sue Capcom for the Mad Midget Five in God Hand and Atlus for the Frost Five in SMT and Nintendo for the Axem Rangers in Super Mario RPG and countless other US-released games that contain Sentai parodies and are still being actively sold.

They're just trying to scare a small indie dev team into giving them money. Go to hell, Saban.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Are you kidding me? Is there a link detailing this?

It's hidden behind a "backers only" wall.
Here's an image I found on the PR Facebook about it.

Saban needs to fuck off into space. They have no legal ground to stand on here. They don't own the concept of a Sentai team, and anyway, the Chroma Squad devs are in Brazil, and I'm pretty sure Saban has no legal power there.

Plus if they had any legal ground here, they'd need to sue Capcom for the Mad Midget Five in God Hand and Atlus for the Frost Five in SMT and Nintendo for the Axem Rangers in Super Mario RPG and countless other US-released games that contain Sentai parodies and are still being actively sold.

They're just trying to scare a small indie dev team into giving them money. Go to hell, Saban.

Don't forget Featherman in Persona 4 Golden. Or the Prism Rangers in Disgaea. Or The Wonderful 101.
 
This is an indie SRPG releasing on steam, if they take even a "small" cut this team will be making like no money at all from their endeavor.

Does Saban's company have an email? This definitely deserves a backlash.
 
Yeah, I got the update email this morning. I'm usually pretty indifferent on the "fuck Saban" front but really, in this case, fuck Saban.

They don't have a claim to anything but they know fighting it in court would destroy the developers.
 

shaowebb

Member
Anybody remember the indie game Chroma Squad?

Apparently Saban contacted the team creating the game and gave them the option of either: shutting them down, or a royalty cut. Either way, it really sucks to see a passion project like this be put under fire by Saban acting like they own the concept of a sentai team.

Came here to post this. What the fuck Saban you don't own a whole genre! If I put a cape on someone it doesn't mean DC can sue my ass and take my money so how the hell should it fly that a sentai/toku game gets bullied by them. Did they do this to Wonderful 101 or Viewtiful Joe? What a crock.
 
I've contacted Behold and Saban to ask about the situation. If I find anything out from either source, I'll write something up and keep you folks posted.
 

shaowebb

Member
I've contacted Behold and Saban to ask about the situation. If I find anything out from either source, I'll write something up and keep you folks posted.

Thanks. This sort of extortion really burns me. I didn't see them go gunning for Zetai Hero Project, or Wonderful 101, but hey these guys can't defend themselves so lets take our cut.
Saban this is a really low move.
 

snowmint

Member
Can this indie dev come to a compromise and make a good Power Rangers game with Saban instead? Quick! Someone contact the Power Force to negotiate with them!
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
I can't believe there are actually people siding with Saban. There really is a defense force for everything....
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
Can this indie dev come to a compromise and make a good Power Rangers game with Saban instead? Quick! Someone contact the Power Force to negotiate with them!

Relying on the Power Force for anything inevitably leads to disaster.

And I say this as someone who's good friends with two of them. :lol
 
Wtf's a Power Force? Is that like the lamest of Power Rangers nerds who have given drops of their blood to Saban Brands in loyalty to television mediocracy?
 
So, watching some TNMT (the new Nick one that's CG), and look at while Michaelangelo pulls out of nowhere.

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Dat V3 henshin.

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BossRush

Member
Watched Gaim 37 finally, I gotta say I really like the direction Kaito is going as a character, or rather, the direction he's been going from the start. He's just...really simple and straight forward, but in a good way, it's not obnoxious or anything, he knows what he wants and he's going to get it.
 
I talked to Behold Studios about the stuff with Saban:

I reached out to Behold Studios' Saulo Camarotti to see if the situation is as bad as fans think. Camarotti was clear that Behold considers Chroma Squad a complete parody and it's not intended to infringe on any copyrights. He admits that he was "sort of" surprised by Saban paying Chroma Squad any attention.

"Sentai is a genre, and it was not created by them," Camarotti told me. "And considering that we're a studio in Brazil with six people, why bother?"

With the fact that Chroma Squad is a parody work, I asked Camarotti why he's negotiating with Saban at all? He reiterated that Behold believes there can be a "win-win negotiation" with Saban Brands and he doesn't want to start a lengthy legal battle. Remember, six developers versus a billionaire.

According to Camarotti, the negotiations are going well and he believes that Saban and Behold can come to amicable terms. On the bright side, a full partnership with Saban means that Power Rangers/Super Sentai content could legally find its way into Chroma Squad.

"That's what we're trying to arrange," Camarotti admitted when I asked him about the possibility.

Essentially, it doesn't sound that bad and it may actually work out for Behold with official PR/sentai in Chroma Squad.
 

vareon

Member
I talked to Behold Studios about the stuff with Saban:



Essentially, it doesn't sound that bad and it may actually work out for Behold with official PR/sentai in Chroma Squad.

Seems to me that rather than fighting an unwinnable legal battle, Behold tried to find a silver lining and explore what could actually be done with Saban instead.

Sounds good, but still calling it a dick move from Saban. Hopefully Saban's branding doesn't clash with Behold's vision of the game.
 
Seems to me that rather than fighting an unwinnable legal battle, Behold tried to find a silver lining and explore what could actually be done with Saban instead.

Sounds good, but still calling it a dick move from Saban. Hopefully Saban's branding doesn't clash with Behold's vision of the game.

Yeah, it sounded basically like they had no options in the matter.
 
Yea, I don't like this situation either. I think it's a shitty move to pull on the developers...but if they can turn it around in their favor, good on them.

and by in their favor, I don't just mean Saban ordering them to stick MMPR(Green or White)/Super MegaFarce in the game and calling it a day.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
By the way, it's possible that Super Megaforce will return on August 30th. Earlier than usual.

Things to expect from the remaining (and likely very disappointing) episodes.
Silver Ranger Gold Mode, an original plot involving Not-Alpha, a retelling of the Carranger tribute episode, Emma fanservice (if the episode in question is a retelling of the Abaranger tribute), body swap episode, the Rangers traveling the Corinth and obtaining a new Zord (that's somehow alive despite the RPM Zords not being alive), the death of Vekar (maaaan...), the return of Vrak and Evil Robo Knight (basically, the Brajil arc in Goseiger), the arrival of the Emperor, an episode that will probably kill off the remaining villains, then the finale with the defeat of the Emperor and the Legend War (which will most likely be a huge letdown.
 

javadoze

Member
By the way, it's possible that Super Megaforce will return on August 30th. Earlier than usual.

Things to expect from the remaining (and likely very disappointing) episodes.
Silver Ranger Gold Mode, an original plot involving Not-Alpha, a retelling of the Carranger tribute episode, Emma fanservice (if the episode in question is a retelling of the Abaranger tribute), body swap episode, the Rangers traveling the Corinth and obtaining a new Zord (that's somehow alive despite the RPM Zords not being alive), the death of Vekar (maaaan...), the return of Vrak and Evil Robo Knight (basically, the Brajil arc in Goseiger), the arrival of the Emperor, an episode that will probably kill off the remaining villains, then the finale with the defeat of the Emperor and the Legend War (which will most likely be a huge letdown.

I'd still argue that Super Megaforce has better villains than Gokaiger.
 

WillyFive

Member
I'd still argue that Super Megaforce has better villains than Gokaiger.

Vekar is very similar to Warz, except his tone of voice; which makes him sound serious. It works sometimes to give it a funnier moment than the original Warz would have, but at the same time it makes his failures seem more incompetent incompetent, rather than funny incompetent.

As for everyone else, it's not even close, Gokaiger has the better ones. Damaras and Insarn were translated into Megaforce with no personality whatsoever; and Barizorg had a proper story in Gokai that is absolutely absent in Megaforce, making him just a pointless walking robot in Power Rangers.

Basco is Gokaiger's serious villain (and an excellent one at that, with a good backstory and relationship with the main characters and mythology of the show); but he's absent in Megaforce; and it seems that
Vrak would be his 'replacement' (which is a fine idea)
, so I'll be looking forward to how they resolve that, but like BatDan, I have absolutely no expectation of it being any good.

I honestly can't think any point in Super Megaforce I'd call better than Gokaiger.
 

BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
There's more Tommy in Super Megaforce

Which means more ego-stroking for JDF.... not really a positive.

I never saw Vekar's tone of voice as "serious". Minus the first episode, he always spoke in a very comical fashion. Hence why his lines have worked and he's probably the only redeeming thing about SMF.
 

javadoze

Member
Vekar is very similar to Warz, except his tone of voice; which makes him sound serious. It works sometimes to give it a funnier moment than the original Warz would have, but at the same time it makes his failures seem more incompetent incompetent, rather than funny incompetent.

As for everyone else, it's not even close, Gokaiger has the better ones. Damaras and Insarn were translated into Megaforce with no personality whatsoever; and Barizorg had a proper story in Gokai that is absolutely absent in Megaforce, making him just a pointless walking robot in Power Rangers.

Basco is Gokaiger's serious villain (and an excellent one at that, with a good backstory and relationship with the main characters and mythology of the show); but he's absent in Megaforce; and it seems that
Vrak would be his 'replacement' (which is a fine idea)
, so I'll be looking forward to how they resolve that, but like BatDan, I have absolutely no expectation of it being any good.

I honestly can't think any point in Super Megaforce I'd call better than Gokaiger.

In terms of writing, I'd say Gokaiger has better-developed villains (a given, being used over the course of 51 episodes rather than 20). However, I feel there's more expectation to long-running villains than Super Megaforce's (which serve mostly to heighten the stakes). While I do love Basco's outright despicable nature and the Warz crew's antics, they fail to give the impression of a galactic empire that managed to force all of the Earth's Super Sentai into submission.

My main point here is that I'm not questioning the writing of Gokaiger's villains, but rather their ability to be an imposing threat to the team (save for Basco, who honestly should've been the main villain).

While Super Megaforce does have problems with its villains as well, my point is that they're shown to be more of an active threat in a shorter amount of time. Guess I shouldn't be saying that SM had better villains, but rather more effective villains.
 

jwk94

Member
Seems to me that rather than fighting an unwinnable legal battle, Behold tried to find a silver lining and explore what could actually be done with Saban instead.

Sounds good, but still calling it a dick move from Saban. Hopefully Saban's branding doesn't clash with Behold's vision of the game.

Was the Super Mega pun intentional? lol
 
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