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Torchlight II |OT| Good things come to those who wait
- Thread starter jim-jam bongs
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It is better but if you are unsure you should wait until there is a sale.
Currently I think I prefer Diablo 3, it just is better designed both in gameplay and interface. But then it was 3x more expensive as well. But the focus on the auction house in D3 does drag it down.
Well, the game is way more open than Torchlight. If you disliked the feel or Torchlight, TL2 makes some interesting changes. Its a pretty good loot collecting game and you have a pet which you can use in combat, as well as sending to sell items or even shop for items if you need some.
Co-op alone makes it much better than the first game. It still suffers from some of the annoying issues the first game had but the positives outweigh the negatives so far.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
THe level of the items that you transmute is what you get back. So you aren't going to get anything great out of it. Just the usual health, mana, damage bonus.
I liked it. But that's probably because he was my favorite character in Torchlight 1 and I'm familiar with the skills he used.
Man, I hope somebody mods the classes from TL 1 into this game. That'd be ace.
jim-jam bongs
Member
you could always get the demo and find out for yourself, if you decide that you like it you can buy it and then literally enter a code and keep playing with the same character and everything.
I have this on Steam, and have no issues with launching a character when there's no internet connection.
I really do not like the stash inventory, way to cramped and it does not even have autosort.
Needs more space, like in diablo where you can buy more space.
Also why do I have to have a map in my inventory to access it in mapworks?
That is just stupid. There are more maps to buy than there is room in the inventory (including stash.
I cant even start the game, just the launcher.
Needs more space, like in diablo where you can buy more space.
Also why do I have to have a map in my inventory to access it in mapworks?
That is just stupid. There are more maps to buy than there is room in the inventory (including stash.
I cant even start the game, just the launcher.
Just finished the the game in normal.
Spoiler, shot of the final boss: http://imgur.com/IKXP3
And this is how I look:
Spoiler, shot of the final boss: http://imgur.com/IKXP3
And this is how I look:
SnakeswithLasers
Member
After playing off and on for the past week, I think I'm enjoying it like 70%. I keep wanting to play, but once I turn it on, I end up stopping after less than an hour.
I think what I am not super into is the left click/auto-attack style. I think the loot and the trees are actually quite interesting (except for the lack of a respec).
But no game has matched the moment to moment of D2 for me yet. I enjoyed the variability in NEVER having to use auto-attack later on. Be it through a WW barb, or an orb/blizz sorc, or a MS or Strafe zon, I really enjoyed thinking back to the way I was killing stuff at level 12 (lol, auto-attack) and laughing at how impotent and inelegant that was.
I haven't gotten that far in TL2 though--maybe that is to come? If so, which classes offer it?
I think what I am not super into is the left click/auto-attack style. I think the loot and the trees are actually quite interesting (except for the lack of a respec).
But no game has matched the moment to moment of D2 for me yet. I enjoyed the variability in NEVER having to use auto-attack later on. Be it through a WW barb, or an orb/blizz sorc, or a MS or Strafe zon, I really enjoyed thinking back to the way I was killing stuff at level 12 (lol, auto-attack) and laughing at how impotent and inelegant that was.
I haven't gotten that far in TL2 though--maybe that is to come? If so, which classes offer it?
Level 33, finally got a rare greathammer.
Where do I find some Dwarves?
Skip RE6, nosedive into TL2.
Lol, I just got that too. Basically I've been gambling for all my weapons and every few levels I'd buy out all of the 2 handed things in hope of getting a unqiue. So far it's been working!
jim-jam bongs
Member
snakes, ember mage is probably the best for that style of play. auto-attack can be replaced with a lowish mana spell pretty early-on if you spec right.
Jugendstil
Member
I've got it too! I'm level 31 and it's been quite handy.
UncleSporky
Member
Meh, I think it's fine. The maps are actually randomly generated every few minutes, and have different bonuses/penalties on them. Bonuses make maps cost more and penalties make them cost less. Just a way of making you invest, or another form of gambling. You paid 10,000 gold for this map, but it has 25% more gold find, so will it be worth it or not? etc.
I guess they could've made a system where you straight up pick the tileset and the modifiers and pay a certain amount, but whatever. It's fine as it is I think.
AdawgDaFAB
Member
TL1 was my first PC ARPG, outside of the playing the D3 SE. I finished playing TL1 slightly after TL2 came out. I tried 2 out just to make a character and from a few minutes of playing I didn't want to go back to 1. I finished 1 and then dove right into 2. The difference was night and day to me. TL2 does almost everything better than TL1. The only thing I'd say I liked more in 1 was how you could build up the strength of your gems via transmuting 2 of the same type.
Anyways, if you are on the fence about it just give the demo a shot. If you like it and decide to buy the game you can continue playing with your character from it.
I wouldn't be surprised to see this be one of the first new class mods we get.
Based on a post here I started a mele / staves Outlander, using Glaive throw etc..
It's not as easy as the first game (each character had mele or ranged skills), most of the passives only affect ranged, but loving it so far at low level, feel like a badass Monk type.
When will mods start to hit Steamworks? I assume they won't label you a cheater once they are "offical"? Respec potion / mod is a must imho, why force re-rolls?
It's not as easy as the first game (each character had mele or ranged skills), most of the passives only affect ranged, but loving it so far at low level, feel like a badass Monk type.
When will mods start to hit Steamworks? I assume they won't label you a cheater once they are "offical"? Respec potion / mod is a must imho, why force re-rolls?
I use shield bash as my auto-attack for my Engi. Does better damage than my weapon and builds charge insanely quick. Works really well.
They are after a point, I re-rolled a few times so have done stuff like the Pirate Cove 4 times now, different layout roughly each time, same goes for many of the other maps, including some overworld (if not all baring the first bit?)
Edit: I have joined the Steam Group, can other UK / GMT Gaf folk drop me a friend request (same username)? I don't know who is from where but think it best if I co-op with people in the same time zone
Pirate cove was one of the dungeons that was exactly the same for my 2 different characters.They are after a point, I re-rolled a few times so have done stuff like the Pirate Cove 4 times now, different layout roughly each time, same goes for many of the other maps, including some overworld (if not all baring the first bit?)
Edit: I have joined the Steam Group, can other UK / GMT Gaf folk drop me a friend request (same username)? I don't know who is from where but think it best if I co-op with people in the same time zone
The cookie-cutter damage skills are usually the first ones to unlock, and you'll find that the usual complain is totally the opposite of what you say, because you can do extremely well with those first skills and the passives making the later skills look not so tempting at all.
Higher level skills usually combine more utility to damage, but their mana cost is way too high to have a build centered around them, so they are best used as complementary skills anyway.
And should you want to try a build centered around high level skills there is also way enough points you can spend to allow you to put some points in a lower level skill, and it will never really be obsolete with the way skills scale with your level and weapon damage.
You could even still make use of it when you start your real build for one of it's side effect (stun/shield break/escape).
There are ways to respec your character by using console 'cheats' and you can bet the first mod that will come out when they release the tools will be this one.
Repulsion hex will allow you to beat many champions by merely running into them and holding LMB. There are many enemies in the game that don't take being pushed back by it very well.
Not really enjoying Elite with my Engineer right now. Might just start over now, and on a lower difficulty (Veteeran), and save Elite for an Embermage or Outlander run.
For fun, I opened up a LAN, and lowered the difficulty to Normal, just to see how much easier the boss dungeon I'm stuck on
would get. I can't understand why they'd make such a piss easy Normal mode. I just couldn't die if I wanted to, and was literally busting out laughing at the absurdity.
For fun, I opened up a LAN, and lowered the difficulty to Normal, just to see how much easier the boss dungeon I'm stuck on
The Djinn's Luminous Arena challenge
To be fair, that's the only quest I had a problem with on Veteran with my engineer. Completed it online with another engy.
Kind of how I feel on my 2 hander. Basically what helps is just getting a few more levels under your belt. But yeah, I feel like you have to have a very specific skill set choice and be willing to take it slow if you want to play on elite.
Is it a 2hand or Sword and Shield engy? I hit a huge wall in the snow area in act 1 with a 2hander, then tried again with s&s and had a much easier time. Maybe I just built the 2hander wrong, but it was like night and day.
His is a 2 hander engy, I think since we were happy about getting the same weapon earlier.
Yeah I'm a 2h engy, with cannon as secondary.
It could just be that my build it bad. I'm:
Lvl. 39
9 points each in Flame Hammer, Heal Bot, Blast Cannon, and Heavy Lifting
8 pts in Gun Bot
3 pts in Coup de Grace
1 pt in Ember Hammer
+ 3 unused
Unassissted Str/Dex/Foc/Vit are 81/39/32/78
My pride says I'm going to die trying with this Elite, grinding it out an inch of ground at a time.
I would say that it's pretty much mandatory to have points in Forcefield on Elite. Otherwise you'll pretty much just be getting 2 hit by everything. Also, you'll want to focus a bit more on dex and less on Vit, since the point to HP ratio is really bad for Vitality.
Any word on whether or not NG+ offers better loot compare to NG (your first playthrough)?
Mapworks seems pretty stingy on the unique items so a friend and I are considering going on to NG+ since oranges seem to drop on all story boss fights.
Mapworks seems pretty stingy on the unique items so a friend and I are considering going on to NG+ since oranges seem to drop on all story boss fights.
Cloudius12
Member
Higher level loot, some are the same with better stats and there are new ones to get as well.
Ingueferroque
Banned
I'm playing a Hardcore Character on Normal, and just started Act 3.
I always play Single Player, am I making a mistake? I don't want to die.. it seems Act 3 is poison heavy so im going to outfit my armor so it has a lot of poison resistance.
Should I start playing online?
I always play Single Player, am I making a mistake? I don't want to die.. it seems Act 3 is poison heavy so im going to outfit my armor so it has a lot of poison resistance.
Should I start playing online?
For the Dodge%, I assume? I've mostly been pumping Vit because this Lvl.30+ armor has been having high Vit reqs, like 80+.
So as currently geared up I'm 111/45/44/98; should I start pumping the full 5 points into Dex for several levels? And how high is enough, or is the answer "higher"?
Yes, it's that good.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Oh hey I just died with my HC character, a single hit kill!
Guess I'll need to get some time away from this game now.
Guess I'll need to get some time away from this game now.
Oh hey I just died with my HC character, a single hit kill!
Guess I'll need to get some time away from this game now.
Disheartening :/
I think others can answer better than I can but I think the common wisdom is to stack dex to certain thresholds, like 10 (58ish)or 20 (114ish) percent dodge.
I concentrated on a 2 str/2dex/1vit every time I leveled and I noticed a difference. So, based on your situation I'd probably pump at least a couple of levels in dex but you might not notice the defensive boost right away. Plus crit also helps with getting Coup de Grace procs, which gives you an offensive boost.
The most important thing really is to get some points into FF, so that you can start taking some hits. I'd say it's important enough that you really probably want to either pop a potion of respec or redo your char, which might not be attractive options.
Thanks for the advice.
I threw the 3 free points I had into FF, and could immediately feel the difference against the final boss of Act 2. It absorbs 764 points of All Damage, and that's before I pop it with +50% per tick of the full Charge meter.
Now that I'm in Act 3, I'm not turning back from this Elite run.
Luminous arena is making me angry
It's so bullshit.
Bleh, they still did not fix the Aiming issues from Torchlight 1.
I am enjoying the game but it does not feel like the sequel I wanted. More open is great but the combat seems a tad boring and mainly rehashed from Torchlight 1. Engineer is pretty fun but it seems you can happily plow through the game with 1 attack if you really want.
Sunk about 15 hours in so far, will keep playing because I love loot but the little niggles are grating.
I am enjoying the game but it does not feel like the sequel I wanted. More open is great but the combat seems a tad boring and mainly rehashed from Torchlight 1. Engineer is pretty fun but it seems you can happily plow through the game with 1 attack if you really want.
Sunk about 15 hours in so far, will keep playing because I love loot but the little niggles are grating.
Anyone get one of these yet?
Do you only have a chance of those from the random enchanters you encounter in the field?
The min/maxer in me wants to sit through enchanting/unenchanting constantly until I get this on all the slots. Then I realize I don't have the gold to afford that.
...then I try it anyway.