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Toronto-Age |OT2|

Appleman

Member
Kunohara said:
The map lighting up sounds awesome.

It's actually not that awesome, it's a little bit confusing actually. Some lights are green (I can't remember if it's the stations you've passed or are going to), some are reddish, and the interchanges are sort of orange. It honestly seems fairly useless, but the new trains are very nice, and the addition of security cameras is a much-needed bonus.

Being able to walk to the section of train where your stairs will be is awesome.
 
Aaaaaaaaand Mammoliti's officially gone crazy!

“I’m going to say something that might be very controversial for the city, but it’s my view that the communist movement in Toronto is hidden, and it’s hidden through one of its major parties, and I used to belong to that party,” said Mr. Mammoliti, who was an MPP for the NDP party during the 90s.

“It’s very clear to me, many of the directions that the former City of Toronto took in planning was done in a very intelligent way that brought policies closer to the objectives of the Communist Party.”
 

Firestorm

Member
So yeah I saw the Fan Expo schedule. Only going one day for sure now. Saturday. Gonna be in Toronto all weekend so a Sunday meetup for lunch or something would work great for me soultron. Or Saturday is fine too I can come out and back in I assume or do dinner? I've ditched my friends for meals with e-friends before they're used to it =)

http://www.fanexpocanada.com/page/view/schedule
 
Firestorm said:
So yeah I saw the Fan Expo schedule. Only going one day for sure now. Saturday. Gonna be in Toronto all weekend so a Sunday meetup for lunch or something would work great for me soultron. Or Saturday is fine too I can come out and back in I assume or do dinner? I've ditched my friends for meals with e-friends before they're used to it =)

http://www.fanexpocanada.com/page/view/schedule
Unless this becomes the official Fan Expo meet up thread somebody might want to put one up early next week. So we can move that discussion there, keep it bumped up and so that anyone that's interested has some time to notice it. Instead of finding out that we tried to stage a failed meet up.
 

Roto13

Member
A friend of mine keeps bugging me to go but I probably wouldn't enjoy it and I don't feel like spending money on something I doubt I would enjoy. If it was free I'd check it out, but if it was free it'd be even more crowded and awful. :p

The Fetish Fair is right outside my door this weekend. So that will be awful.
 

cbox

Member
BigJonsson said:
Ugh, Yonge subway is closed between Eglinton and Bloor Saturday and Sunday

Good thing I don't need to head downtown Sat or Sun

it's been advertised for a while now that it would be closed...
 
dragonfart28 said:
It’s either layoffs or major tax increases: Ford

Bonus video interview including quack Sue Ann Levy.

Or, yet another broken promise:

Laying off thousands of city workers would represent a dramatic turnaround from last Sept. 27 — a month before Ford was elected — when he unveiled his “Saving Our City” plan on YouTube.

“Instead of a hiring freeze my plan is to reduce the city’s workforce through attrition,” Ford said, adding that about 6 per cent of city employees retire each year. “We’ll promote from within to fill many important roles with people who already have work for the city. No need for layoffs.”

The actual attrition rate is 2.7 per cent.
 

Azih

Member
Stet said:
Blaming the $770 million deficit on Miller has got to be the one of the most brazen lies I've ever heard.
It's blatant but I bet they plan on repeating it ad nauseam until it sounds true. I hope there's an Atwood sized backlash on this one. Miller left a god damn surplus.
 

Quick

Banned
Lostconfused said:
Unless this becomes the official Fan Expo meet up thread somebody might want to put one up early next week. So we can move that discussion there, keep it bumped up and so that anyone that's interested has some time to notice it. Instead of finding out that we tried to stage a failed meet up.

Indeed.
 

Zzoram

Member
Conservatives always change surpluses to deficits because if there is a surplus, they think taxes are too high. Once they create a deficit, they claim spending is too high. One they cut services, they claim taxes are too high again.

Endless cycle of destroying the government toward anarchy, but interrupted by liberal terms of rebuilding.
 

Rinoa

Member
Pretty much. I don't get all the Chretien hate back in the day, I liked him and things were getting fixed. Can't wait till Trudeau's son is matured and ripe to be PM.
 

Stet

Banned
Rinoa said:
Pretty much. I don't get all the Chretien hate back in the day, I liked him and things were getting fixed. Can't wait till Trudeau's son is matured and ripe to be PM.
Chretien was a world class prime minister, and I'm not surprised he was elected to serve 10 years. The fact that the liberal government fell over a matter of 3 million dollars is still absolutely confounding.
 

Anth0ny

Member
I'll be at Fan Expo on Friday for sure... not sure if I want to get the weekend pass this year. It's pretty expensive, and there's not really much to do...
 
OKay guys, the trip to Toronto at the end of the month has gone tits up. The problem is folks backed out, so the shared cost is increased for the me and my buddy.

Is there any inexpensive hotel / motel off the subway line that runs into Toronto near the convention center?

Any help is appreciated as of right now we're looking at $129 a night and $20 a day for parking. So we'd like to reduce costs if at all possible. The Saturday / Sunday usage of the subway pass is a big plus.

Thanks for any help.

The trip is for Fan Expo, in case that helps you help me in any way.
 

Draff

Member
The Take Out Bandit said:
OKay guys, the trip to Toronto at the end of the month has gone tits up. The problem is folks backed out, so the shared cost is increased for the me and my buddy.

Is there any inexpensive hotel / motel off the subway line that runs into Toronto near the convention center?

Any help is appreciated as of right now we're looking at $129 a night and $20 a day for parking. So we'd like to reduce costs if at all possible. The Saturday / Sunday usage of the subway pass is a big plus.

Thanks for any help.

The trip is for Fan Expo, in case that helps you help me in any way.

Have you tried using priceline? You'll probably be able to get a cheaper place.. possibly around $70.
 
Draff said:
Have you tried using priceline? You'll probably be able to get a cheaper place.. possibly around $70.

How long of a ride would it be from Georgetown to Toronto on the rail system? And at this distance is it a different public transportation system?
 
I know a few motels that are $80 a night (with a little bargaining, you can bring it down). Parking in the motel is free of course. I'll try finding ones that are not filthy. Rest assured, I'm your tour guide now... :p

How many people? Where do you plan to travel? Whats the final spending budget/money?

Send me all the info (PM would be nice too if you want it to be personal) and I will see what suits your need.
 

Kinitari

Black Canada Mafia
We need to be careful when we talk about the surplus and the deficit that Toronto has been working with, I hate rob as much as the next person, but it doesn't paint a 100% honest picture.

Toronto always posts a deficit - every year, anywhere from 500-700mil or so - the thing is, we always find a way to balance it. Our budget is something separate from the defecit, it's something we set aside at the beginning of the year telling ourselves "this is all the money we can spend for the year" - we have emergency funds, tax funds and investment funds in that budget. In 2010, because of good investments, the car tax, lack of too many emergencies and a strong cost-saving mantra, we had an unusually high budget surplus of 300million or so (usually it's like 50).

What normally happens with a surplus is, we roll that into next years budget - so we have more money to spend on the city. The deficit we post we find other ways to balance (and we pretty much always do balance it) - admittedly, sometimes by creating or raising taxes - but usually nothing too dramatic.

Now here is where we can hate Rob Ford.
- His policies have so far increased the deficit, not in anyway reduced it - we normally have a strong plan to zero it out, and that is absolutely not happening with Rob. For example, the regular property tax increase has been frozen!

- He is using all the surplus money from 2010 to reduce the deficit, instead of rolling into next years budget (funny how that money is mostly from the car tax Rob has abolished).

- Now, it's finally dawning on him that these conservative practices are going to end up fucking people in the ass, and he's just trying to decide who it is that needs to get fucked - so he's looking at slashing an unprecedented amount of jobs (which is a great idea! Let's get people on unemployment).

- Funny enough, he might still have to raise/create taxes! So not only is he reneging on his promises left right and centre, because of the stumbling destructive path he took to get to this point, we have a huge deficit that doesn't seem to be able to be balanced in the usual nearly harmless way, we have all the surplus money we were going to spend on cool swag just gone, and hundreds of people are going to be out of jobs.

And if he does finally balance the budget, he'll say "See~! I did it! It may have cost hundreds of jobs, I may have had to go back on some promises and undo some tax cuts as well as remove a lot of services, I may have even increased the size of the hole we had to climb out of in the process! But all in all, I did exactly what every other mayor has done before me, just in the fucking worst possible way."
 

Piecake

Member
Kinitari said:
Now here is where we can hate Rob Ford.
- His policies have so far increased the deficit, not in anyway reduced it - we normally have a strong plan to zero it out, and that is absolutely not happening with Rob. For example, the regular property tax increase has been frozen!

- He is using all the surplus money from 2010 to reduce the deficit, instead of rolling into next years budget (funny how that money is mostly from the car tax Rob has abolished).

- Now, it's finally dawning on him that these conservative practices are going to end up fucking people in the ass, and he's just trying to decide who it is that needs to get fucked - so he's looking at slashing an unprecedented amount of jobs (which is a great idea! Let's get people on unemployment).

- Funny enough, he might still have to raise/create taxes! So not only is he reneging on his promises left right and centre, because of the stumbling destructive path he took to get to this point, we have a huge deficit that doesn't seem to be able to be balanced in the usual nearly harmless way, we have all the surplus money we were going to spend on cool swag just gone, and hundreds of people are going to be out of jobs.

And if he does finally balance the budget, he'll say "See~! I did it! It may have cost hundreds of jobs, I may have had to go back on some promises and undo some tax cuts as well as remove a lot of services, I may have even increased the hole we has to climb out of in the process! But all in all, I did exactly what every other mayor has done before me, just in the fucking worst possible way."

Sounds like you guys elected a winner. Well, just be thankful that your conservatives aren't complete wack-job loons like ours
 

Kinitari

Black Canada Mafia
Gonaria said:
Sounds like you guys elected a winner. Well, just be thankful that your conservatives aren't complete wack-job loons like ours

Ours have started to spout the trite "Communism/Socialism" bullshit the US conservatives have been trademarking. We don't normally hate on social programs, and helping those in need - but all of a sudden we're supposed to.
 

Piecake

Member
Kinitari said:
Ours have started to spout the trite "Communism/Socialism" bullshit the US conservatives have been trademarking. We don't normally hate on social programs, and helping those in need - but all of a sudden we're supposed to.

Dumbest line ever. Who the flipping crap cares if its a communist/socialist program as long as it works? Well, apparently a lot of people in the US, but I'd like to give people the benefit of the doubt and say that they are just using that as pretense for covering up that they favor selfish d-bag policies that will hurt the overall economy but help them personally.
 

Firestorm

Member
The Take Out Bandit said:
OKay guys, the trip to Toronto at the end of the month has gone tits up. The problem is folks backed out, so the shared cost is increased for the me and my buddy.

Is there any inexpensive hotel / motel off the subway line that runs into Toronto near the convention center?

Any help is appreciated as of right now we're looking at $129 a night and $20 a day for parking. So we'd like to reduce costs if at all possible. The Saturday / Sunday usage of the subway pass is a big plus.

Thanks for any help.

The trip is for Fan Expo, in case that helps you help me in any way.
Try doing $85 for Toronto-Downtown South or Toronto-Downtown-North with a 3.5*+ on Priceline's Name Your Own Price.
 
Firestorm said:
Try doing $85 for Toronto-Downtown South or Toronto-Downtown-North with a 3.5*+ on Priceline's Name Your Own Price.

Thanks.

Found a place close enough (20 minute walk) for $94 a night w/ free parking. Saved $67.53!

Quick said:
Anyone making an OT for the Fan Expo meetup?

I'd like to return to the States with my kidneys. :p
 

Duality

Member
Any Thornhill GAF members?

I currently live around Don Mills Station but I am researching a pre-construction condo at Yonge/Arnold. I also work around Leslie/Highway 7.

How's the neighbourhood? Is anything noteworthy? Thanks in advance.
 
RS4- said:
Oh shit, we should play 3s somewhere TTOB!

Haha - it's been so long since I played 3S I would get creamed.

However I am bringing my arcade stick to meet up with another crazy Canadian I know for fighting game shenanigans on Saturday.

Is there an arcade nearby where there's a 3S machine?
 

Tenkei

Member
The Take Out Bandit said:
Found a place close enough (20 minute walk) for $94 a night w/ free parking. Saved $67.53!
If you don't care about the quality of the rooms, there's always The Residence College Hotel. It's $57 per night, if I recall, and it's about a 20-25 minute walk to the expo. It used to be a student residence for the University of Toronto before they converted it into a hotel. Don't know anything about parking, though.
 
Tenkei said:
If you don't care about the quality of the rooms, there's always The Residence College Hotel. It's $57 per night, if I recall, and it's about a 20-25 minute walk to the expo. It used to be a student residence for the University of Toronto before they converted it into a hotel. Don't know anything about parking, though.

Thanks.

I think we'll give this one a go. Reviews are middle of the road, and I'm not sure how it is up North; but I'm still a little paranoid about all the bed bug nonsense that happened hear last year.
 
Fort York Motel has nice, quality rooms. They range from $60-$80 per night w/ free parking. It's 5 minutes away from Subway Station, next to highway and it's 15 minutes drive from/to the expo.
 
Duality said:
Any Thornhill GAF members?

I currently live around Don Mills Station but I am researching a pre-construction condo at Yonge/Arnold. I also work around Leslie/Highway 7.

How's the neighbourhood? Is anything noteworthy? Thanks in advance.


Yonge and Arnold is a good area, the houses west of Yonge are ginormous

I'm near the Promenade mall
 
Kinitari said:
We need to be careful when we talk about the surplus and the deficit that Toronto has been working with, I hate rob as much as the next person, but it doesn't paint a 100% honest picture.

Toronto always posts a deficit - every year, anywhere from 500-700mil or so - the thing is, we always find a way to balance it. Our budget is something separate from the defecit, it's something we set aside at the beginning of the year telling ourselves "this is all the money we can spend for the year" - we have emergency funds, tax funds and investment funds in that budget. In 2010, because of good investments, the car tax, lack of too many emergencies and a strong cost-saving mantra, we had an unusually high budget surplus of 300million or so (usually it's like 50).

What normally happens with a surplus is, we roll that into next years budget - so we have more money to spend on the city. The deficit we post we find other ways to balance (and we pretty much always do balance it) - admittedly, sometimes by creating or raising taxes - but usually nothing too dramatic.

Now here is where we can hate Rob Ford.
- His policies have so far increased the deficit, not in anyway reduced it - we normally have a strong plan to zero it out, and that is absolutely not happening with Rob. For example, the regular property tax increase has been frozen!

- He is using all the surplus money from 2010 to reduce the deficit, instead of rolling into next years budget (funny how that money is mostly from the car tax Rob has abolished).

- Now, it's finally dawning on him that these conservative practices are going to end up fucking people in the ass, and he's just trying to decide who it is that needs to get fucked - so he's looking at slashing an unprecedented amount of jobs (which is a great idea! Let's get people on unemployment).

- Funny enough, he might still have to raise/create taxes! So not only is he reneging on his promises left right and centre, because of the stumbling destructive path he took to get to this point, we have a huge deficit that doesn't seem to be able to be balanced in the usual nearly harmless way, we have all the surplus money we were going to spend on cool swag just gone, and hundreds of people are going to be out of jobs.

And if he does finally balance the budget, he'll say "See~! I did it! It may have cost hundreds of jobs, I may have had to go back on some promises and undo some tax cuts as well as remove a lot of services, I may have even increased the size of the hole we had to climb out of in the process! But all in all, I did exactly what every other mayor has done before me, just in the fucking worst possible way."


Are those your own words or did you copy/paste that from somewhere?

+1 to all of it
 

Stoffinator

Member
Duality said:
Any Thornhill GAF members?

I currently live around Don Mills Station but I am researching a pre-construction condo at Yonge/Arnold. I also work around Leslie/Highway 7.

How's the neighbourhood? Is anything noteworthy? Thanks in advance.

I'm at the Don Mills and Sheppard Station.
 
Kinitari said:
You're making me blush, those are my own words :p.

I think he's asking you out!

Seriously though I agree with you. It's not that we shouldn't try to save money, it's that Ford seems to be wasting more money than he is saving AND is about to make massive cuts to services to boot.
 
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