Highway test for me today at Vic Park. Wish me luck, TO Gaf.
Good luck.
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Good luck.
Highway test for me today at Vic Park. Wish me luck, TO Gaf.
You'll be fine. Good luck!
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Yup. Didn't do well on my last lesson. Strange since before that I was perfectly fine. Just want to get this done and over with.
Also failed G1 first time. Really sends on the tester...
Zombie James
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Zombie James
Banned
Oh boy.
I will be absolutely floored if hes removed. City of Toronto will not make this decision. Federal cases are usually used to set precedent. The backlash at all governmental levels would be huge. It would destroy the judges career, and most involved. Remember, we have a majority Conservative government. Payback will happen.
As much as the vast majority would like to see this happen, it wont.
Basically how I feel. The court and council have their own interests to protect and won't want to set a precedent. Whether it's right, or wrong.
Although I'd love to be proven wrong and be able to vote in my first election this fall.
added_time
Member
but I just didn't know what that red octagonal sign on all the roads is!
What do you mean I have to stop for streetcar doors. I'm a busy man!
I hate to give the man credit, but he does know as the mayor of the largest city in Canada, he is not held to the same laws as we are. I guess 10 years on council gives you that insight.
Zombie James
Banned
Jeeze, he doesn't even understand what the basic concept of "conflict of interest" is. He keeps insisting it's only a conflict of interest if it benefits him and the city.
Zombie James
Banned
This is looking way worse than I thought.
"Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorence on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon . . . you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices, and I tell you, people do that all the time."
I failed the highway test one my first try, I remember being way too nervous about it.
The Elite
BOSS
I'm using Twitter.
The evidence and his testimony is pretty damning. With all of this going public via twitter it's going to look really bad if they just give him a slap on the wrist.
You can also use this page.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/cit...r-mayor-rob-ford-in-conflict-of-interest-case
The Star is live blogging.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/cit...r-mayor-rob-ford-in-conflict-of-interest-case
edit: Fuzzzzzzy
BigJonsson
Member
If the judge finds that he broke the rules then he's automatically removed from office
The judge can find Ford: not guilty, guilty of conflict of interest through inadvertence or an error in judgment; or guilty of knowingly breaching the Act. If the judge finds the latter, he has no option but to order that Ford be removed from office
guess which one it will be.
There are really two sides to the 'guilty' verdict, according to the report. If he's guilty through inadvertence, or error in judgement he can stay in office. If he knowingly breached the act, he's tossed no questions asked. It's really why the prosecution is pushing the point that he was presented with the facts about what he was doing, but he made the decision to ignore them.
Zombie James
Banned
Petty is more like it. Someone cut off your mike so you don't have to listen to them? He's a child.
The Elite
BOSS
But looking at this testimony Ford knew what he was doing and was informed multiple times what he was doing was wrong. With all of this public via twitter/the star it's going to look really bad if the verdict comes back guilty through inadvertence.
I can see it happening though.
Doesn't he have his own lawyer present? I'm shocked at the lack of prep work done. It's like he wasn't expecting this type of questioning at all.
Not a real surprise if you watch council meetings. Or any public speaking event that isn't heavily scripted with a majority of Ford-supporters in the crowd. He has a very tough time with his words under pressure. Still amazing that he was elected, but it was a laughable pool of candidates.
True, not really a surprise. I guess I just half expected that even he would at least talk to his lawyer before heading into this.
It will be inadvertence. Everyone knows he broke the rules, so they cant skirt that. They want to set some type of an example without plunging council into chaos.
The political shit storm of tossing him, is too great.
BigJonsson
Member
He probably cheaped out on the lawyer and/or didn't listen to any of the advice
No, the judge can do anything from a slap on the wrist up to removal from office with a 7 year ban from running for office again. Same thing happened to Hazel in Mississauga in the early '80's and she just got a slap on the wrist.
I already agreed with you further up. I was just pointing out what the idea is behind drilling home the fact that he knew what he was doing.
But looking at this testimony Ford knew what he was doing and was informed multiple times what he was doing was wrong. With all of this public via twitter/the star it's going to look really bad if the verdict comes back guilty through inadvertence.
I can see it happening though.
Look at the bigger picture. This isnt just local politics anymore. A guilty verdict would change the dynamic across the country. If Toronto can toss their mayor, why cant we. This will set off a huge chain reaction.
Also take into account that he is tight with both Harper and Hudak. They will also have something to say about this on Federal and Provincial levels. Politics is a very, very dirty game, and there will be great consequences.
Not that I disagree with you on the outcome, but Hazel was unanimously loved back then. People would have thrown a shit.
EDIT: Wow this does not look good for him:
The Elite
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You're absolutely right on all accounts too.
I'd love to see it go the other way though. The political shit storm alone would be a joy to watch.
BigJonsson
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Harper might be able to complain about Ford getting booted for corruption but Hudak is already on thin ice
I think council wise, we would be ok. Nobody likes the guy, and the minority that does would fall in line, for fear of the same treatment. Who would the next mayor be? We voted in this creamy centered wingnut, who says they wont just slap his equally retarded brother in?
I would be more concerned elsewhere, leaning to the Provincial level. Conservatives will jump all over this and make things very difficult. Conservatives hold all the money and power now.
Scary shit man. Would be funny to see how red he gets.
Harper will make trouble behind closed doors. You can bank on that. McGuinty's in the one on thin ice. He's toast.
It would most likely be Doug Holyday since he's the Deputy Mayor but we won't find out because Ford isn't losing his job.
BigJonsson
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If the PC`s don`t win in KW tomorrow there will be calls for Hudak to resign as leader
And Doug Ford won`t run, he doesn`t look like he has the care or time to be the face of Toronto
Zombie James
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Grasping at Straws Mode turn ON.
BigJonsson
Member
So either Ford is admitting he is a complete idiot or he is pretending to be one because he knows he goofed