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Tour de France 2010 |OT|

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Tarazet

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Kabouter said:
I don't think those decided it tbh.
Contador is just better overall, not by much, but by enough to make a difference.

We'll see in the time trial, 8 seconds is nothing. If the roads are wet it could still be a test of will and luck.
 

Chris R

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Great climb. Shame neither could break away from each other. Also, those sheep were so damn funny :lol

Can't imagine how the cyclists climbed this 100 years ago.
 

Kabouter

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Tarazet said:
We'll see in the time trial, 8 seconds is nothing. If the roads are wet it could still be a test of will and luck.
Indeed 8 seconds is nothing, but I fully expect Contador to do well in the time trial. Now, given how well Schleck has done so far, I doubt he'll be a slouch during the time trial, but Contador will probably win it by enough to make people forget about all those little things. Don't forget that it is 50km long and flat as a pancake, that's a TT where you can lose real time as a climber.

Denis Menchov should pass Samuel Sanchez in the GC as well, if he doesn't, that's pretty terrible.
 

Leonsito

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Great pic in AS:

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Chris R

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Stage 17 results:

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Standings after stage 17:

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Stage 18:

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Basically everything is now wrapped up except for the Green Jersey.
 

Chris R

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Stage 18 results:

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Standings after stage 18:

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Stage 19:

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Pretty long time trial (IMO at least). Doubt Andy can make up the 8 seconds but we will see. Nice to see the Green Jersey going down to the last day though.
 

Leonsito

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Everyone is on track right now.

About 10km, Contador is 4-5 seconds ahead Andy.

1st checkpoint.

Menchov 22:31
Samuel 23:19

Menchov is going to get third place.
 

Pachael

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Alberto's lead is getting smaller!!

Edit FFFFFFFF 2 seconds!

Looks like Alberto's responding, it's three seconds now.
 

Kabouter

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Contador taking a bit of a lead now.
Also, Menchov crushing Samuel Sanchez in the fight for third place, as expected. Awesome.

Edit: I wonder if conditions had been equal throughout the TT, would Menchov have been able to beat Cancellara here? Because Menchov is riding crazy well, Giro 2009 style.
 

Leonsito

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Kabouter said:
Contador taking a bit of a lead now.
Also, Menchov crushing Samuel Sanchez in the fight for third place, as expected. Awesome.

Edit: I wonder if conditions had been equal throughout the TT, would Menchov have been able to beat Cancellara here? Because Menchov is riding crazy well, Giro 2009 style.

Wind is worse now.
 

Leonsito

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Pachael said:
Its pretty much over now (26"lead) but did Andy give everyone a fright!

Andy progression from last year has been pretty amazing, if he keeps progressing like this next year he can win.
 

Kabouter

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Leonsito said:
Andy progression from last year has been pretty amazing, if he keeps progressing like this next year he can win.
Indeed, but I should think that Contador will have gotten a bit of a wake up call from this, and push himself much more in training. Because Contador is just NOT as good as he was last year. Compare it to Menchov too, whilst Menchov should be riding a better TT, he should not be beating Contador by this much.

Also, lol @ Contador not seeing where the finish line is.
 
What a great Tour De France. Congrats to Contador. And make no bones about it. Andy Schleck is coming into his own. Oh man what it would have been like had his brother not broke his collar bone. :D
 

Pachael

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Leonsito said:
Andy progression from last year has been pretty amazing, if he keeps progressing like this next year he can win.
He's ahead by 43" overall. Just enough to have overcome Andy sans mechanical failure episode. (39")

Still a great race though. Only battle left is the green.

Edit: Bloody heck the official times have come back as 39"!!
 

Leonsito

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Kabouter said:
Indeed, but I should think that Contador will have gotten a bit of a wake up call from this, and push himself much more in training. Because Contador is just NOT as good as he was last year. Compare it to Menchov too, whilst Menchov should be riding a better TT, he should not be beating Contador by this much.
Also, lol @ Contador not seeing where the finish line is.

I don't think his preparation was the best, and he got a flu a couple of weeks before the tour, next year he has to choose another race to do, maybe going to the Tour of Switzerland.
 

Leonsito

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Pachael said:
He's ahead by 43" overall. Just enough to have overcome Andy sans mechanical failure episode. (39")

Still a great race though. Only battle left is the green.

Edit: Bloody heck the official times have come back as 39"!!

:lol

Nice coincidence, but if not for that failure Tourmalet would have been different, and also Andy has to think about this too:

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prólogo - Rotterdam  Rotterdam   8.9 km

6.  	CONTADOR Alberto  	1  	ASTANA  	10' 27"
122.  	SCHLECK Andy  	11  	TEAM SAXO BANK  	11' 09"

42 seconds lost in 9km ...
 

Pachael

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Leonsito said:
:lol

Nice coincidence, but if not for that failure Tourmalet would have been different, and also Andy has to think about this too:

Code:
prólogo - Rotterdam  Rotterdam   8.9 km

6.  	CONTADOR Alberto  	1  	ASTANA  	10' 27"
122.  	SCHLECK Andy  	11  	TEAM SAXO BANK  	11' 09"

42 seconds lost in 9km ...
That slip On the pedal late in the stage by Andy lost him about 5" but it's now clear he came out very hard in the first 10k and Alberto was a bit rattled. By the third check Andy was tiring while Alberto had regrouped.
 

Kabouter

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Leonsito said:
I don't think his preparation was the best, and he got a flu a couple of weeks before the tour, next year he has to choose another race to do, maybe going to the Tour of Switzerland.
Man, Tour of Switzerland seems cursed. Don't forget. Frank Schleck won it, Armstrong came second, Fuglsang was third. None performed even close to expectations (Frank Schleck was disappointing in the prologue prior to him crashing out). Meanwhile Brajkovic bombed in the Tour after winning the Dauphiné Libéré and Contador wasn't nearly as supreme as he was last year after coming second in the Dauphiné.

Not to mention that pretty much anyone who competed in the Giro D'Italia was shit (as was the case last year, with people like, then winner, Menchov performing very poorly in the TdF).

Seems to me that the best preparation might just be either not competing to win in those races, or just not doing these races so close to the TdF.
 

Chris R

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Going to be interesting tomorrow due to the green still being available. Would have been nice to see what would have happened with Frank in the tour the entire way.

So looking forward to 2011, the tour stars on that road that is submerged twice a day, but thing is if anyone falls on it the group will wait. Would have been more interesting to finish on that road :lol Lost time due to a high tide :lol
 

Kabouter

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rhfb said:
Going to be interesting tomorrow due to the green still being available. Would have been nice to see what would have happened with Frank in the tour the entire way.

So looking forward to 2011, the tour stars on that road that is submerged twice a day, but thing is if anyone falls on it the group will wait. Would have been more interesting to finish on that road :lol Lost time due to a high tide :lol

Honestly, for the green, I think it's unlikely Hushovd will take it. He has the aggression, but he has consistently failed to bring his A-game in the mass spurts. Petacchi or maybe even Cavendish is my bet.
 

Chris R

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Stage 19 results:

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Kabouter said:
Honestly, for the green, I think it's unlikely Hushovd will take it. He has the aggression, but he has consistently failed to bring his A-game in the mass spurts. Petacchi or maybe even Cavendish is my bet.
It will all come down to the final sprint. Cav would need some help to win it though being so far behind. If he can snag the 12 points for the two inter-sprints then it would really be anyone's to win.
 

Pimpwerx

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Cavenish continues to beast on the sprints. That guy goes kicky-fast. Contador was a dick earlier, but redeemed himself on the Tourmalet. Interesting tour. A good way to pivot from Armstrong to the future of the sport. PEACE.
 

Pachael

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Mark's blitzed them all. Congrats to Alessandro for hanging onto the green and the other winners, even Radioshack for their team victory. Hope to see some more action at the world champs ;)
 

Tarazet

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Pachael said:
Mark's blitzed them all. Congrats to Alessandro for hanging onto the green and the other winners, even Radioshack for their team victory. Hope to see some more action at the world champs ;)

Forgetting about the Vuelta? Not that I expect it to have much of a field, everyone turned out for this Tour.
 
An asthma drug? There will never be another Tour winner without the use of a banned substance. This banned substance rule is so stupid. Why don't they just make all substances legal unless it's an actual steroid.

Cycling's governing body says a "very small concentration" of a banned substance was found in the urine of Tour de France winner Alberto Contador, but that he has been suspended.

The UCI says a lab in Germany found clenbuterol in Contador's urine sample on July 21 at the Tour de France. But the amount was only 50 picograms, which the UCI says "is 400 time(s) less than what the antidoping laboratories accredited by the World Anti-Doping Agency's must be able to detect."

It says that both Contador's A and B samples tested positive and that Contador has been "formally and provisionally suspended."

It says that the case is still being investigated and that this may take some time.

The UCI released its statement in the early hours of Thursday.

Jacinto Vidarte, Contador's publicist, said Contador has blamed food contamination as the only possible explanation for the test.

"The experts consulted so far have agreed also that this is a food contamination case, especially considering the number of tests passed by Alberto Contador during the Tour de France," Vidarte said in the release, "making it possible to define precisely both the time the emergence of the substance as the tiny amount detected, ruling out any other source or intentionality."

Contador will hold a news conference on Thursday in Pinto, Spain.

Contador was first made aware of the positive test on Aug. 24, according to statement, and has provided his explanation to the proper authorities.

In July, Contador won the Tour de France for the third time in four years, beating Andy Schleck of Luxembourg by 39 seconds.

If Tour officials strip Contador of his title, he would be just the second cyclist so punished. The first was American Floyd Landis, who was stripped of his 2006 Tour title after a positive test.
For years he denied doping but admitted this spring that he used performance-enhancing drugs. In doing so, he accused seven-time Tour winner Lance Armstrong and others of systematic drug use.

Clenbuterol is a synthetic bronchodilator often prescribed to asthma sufferers. The drug is on the WADA's banned substances list and its use would mean a two-year ban from the sport.

American swimmer Jessica Hardy tested positive for clenbuterol at the U.S. trials in July 2008. She served a one-year suspension that ended last summer. The Court of Arbitration for Sport accepted her explanation that she had unknowingly taken the banned anabolic agent in a contaminated food supplement.

A number of athletes have been banned in recent months after using the banned drug, including Polish canoeist Adam Seroczynski, British hurdler Callum Priestley and Chinese Olympic judo champion Tong Wen.

Two cyclists also have been suspended, accused of using the drug. In May, the International Cycling Union suspended Italian cyclist Alessandro Colo after he tested positive for clenbuterol during the Tour of Mexico in April. And Chinese rider, Li Fuyu, a member of Lance Armstrong's Team RadioShack, was suspended in April after testing positive for the drug during a Belgian race.

Former New York Mets clubhouse employee Kirk Radomski admitted to distributing clenbuterol to dozens of current and former Major League Baseball players and associates in his plea deal.

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=5631343
 

santi_yo

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perfectchaos007 said:
They all have different excuses. Didn't floyd landis say he was injected in his sleep or something? Food contamination isn't all that original.
It's not original but true.
 

Mael

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Well that takes some dedication to still be interested in the Tour de France after THAT fiasco (you know which one), seriously I applaud you Gaf.
Isn't it already known that they're pretty much all cheaters in some way or another anyway?
I mean after that guy that was actually using an electric bike :/
 

Pachael

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Mael said:
Well that takes some dedication to still be interested in the Tour de France after THAT fiasco (you know which one), seriously I applaud you Gaf.
Isn't it already known that they're pretty much all cheaters in some way or another anyway?
I mean after that guy that was actually using an electric bike :/

I'm more for the actual racing rather than the 'purity' of the riders, sadly (or gladly).

Also mysterious that this happens when the World Champs are on.
 

Mael

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Pachael said:
I'm more for the actual racing rather than the 'purity' of the riders, sadly (or gladly).

Also mysterious that this happens when the World Champs are on.

It IS (or was) a prestigious event, no denying.
But I never saw this as something that could be followed by Gaf, kinda like when you go to a place in Europe and they talk about the superbowl or something.
can happen but that's still surprising.
And the racing part is kind of a joke lately, at least it shows the advancement of pharma labs...
 
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