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Transgaf: 'cause boys will be girls (and vice versa)
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It's good that they removed it, but that's the most minimal token gesture they could have done.
Brian Griffin
Member
Da frak?CHEEZMO™;46443995 said:Dropping this here for the sake of a little levity
I lol'd
Levity achieved.
You don't say.
Femmeworth
Banned
Damn PC Brigade ruining freedom of speech and freedom of the press. I thought this was America.
Did someone lose an avatar bet?
My Seahawks lost yesterday, and I bet with a Bears fan.
My Seahawks lost yesterday, and I bet with a Bears fan.
Your loss for watching football.
That's like asking me not to breathe, miss!
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Well we all have to make sacrifices.
Diablo Rosso
Member
WTF is that?CHEEZMO;46443995 said:Dropping this here for the sake of a little levity
BTW I want to say hi and I massive respect for you who just want to be yourselves.
But then your face would turn purple!
And I thought you were cool
I spent 4 years of my life going to a football game every week. NEVER AGAIN.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I only enjoy hockey! Playing not watching since I find watching sports incredibly boring.
That sounds like perfection to me LOL
Femmeworth
Banned
Underage boys tackling each other in group formations?
90% sure she was talking about high school.
She said nothing about their age!! But yeah, high school or professional football is what I would prefer to watch, with college football I can never get past the fact that everyone is making bucket loads of money except the athletes.
All that porn you read is giving you ideas!
ArchedThunder
Banned
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Yup. I was in marching band.
Pansexual (Umbrella term), Gynephilic (Looses the TS component), Transphilic (Niche usage), Skoliosexual (No one uses this), Chaser (Derogatory). Your question does not specify if you have a non-op, pre-op or post-op preference.
No need to label it, just don't make it fetishistic as that dehumanizes your partners.
ArchedThunder
Banned
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Look for trans support groups. There's likely one in your area, doubly so if you're near any sort of college campus. Any group worth their salt will be more than happy to have allies around. From there, just socialize. With anyone and everyone, especially those you have absolutely no desire or expectation of dating down the line. What Mitsuho mentioned about chasers and fetishists is very common, and (speaking for myself) we're pretty hesitant to let our guard down with anyone as a result. Prove first that you're a friend to the trans community, then it'll be easy to be a friend to particular trans people, then you can work to turn one friendship into a relationship. Worst case, you're still single but make a couple new friends.
Don't have anything to prove to me, but even cissexuals have issues which might stem from a sexual nature - "You're too fat for me," "I don't date bald guys, ever." Be careful not misgender people too; that trans woman you have your eye on might be a genderqueer who thinks that demigirl and transfeminine are still too binary.
ArchedThunder
Banned
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...most of your relationships are not bound to last for a long time xD
Not everyone wants SRS. And not everyone can afford it
Not everyone wants SRS. And not everyone can afford it
From my experience, most people (as in more than 50%) WANT srs ... being able to get is another question.
This is probably just my problems of the past talking, but this talk makes me think that Thunder "preference" is no diferent than those people who awnsered that they would never date a trans women ...it is the exact same thing (including the focus on genitalia) except that it is the exact oposite.
And THIS don't sound good to me.
It feels WRONG for someone is in a gender to be excluded from it, even for a "good" thing in a sea of people excluding us from our gender for bad things.
Sorry if this sounded bad or something ... I kinda had a bad day =/
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Not everyone wants SRS. And not everyone can afford it
Yeah, I don't really want SRS at the moment it could change but it's not something I want right now. I don't really hold people's preferences against them as long as they aren't big douche-bags about it.
*hug*
Earthstrike
Member
No, I don't think it is the exact same thing. The analogy is flawed in the sense that rejection of trans woman has societal origins.. A post op transwoman and a ciswoman are similar and it is extrabiological reasons that cause rejection of the trans. There is no analogue for someone attracted to pre op trans.
Zyrusticae
Banned
ArchedThunder
Banned
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"We are only ever a few HRT pills away from being a monstrous regiment." Can't get really angry without some testosterone? Women can't be an organzied group for change because of body chemistry? Trans women are monsters in her midst? What is she trying to say here!?
I didn't exactly ask, but to say it wasn't implied would be nit-picky. You're entitled to have a preference; it's just how you present it. It's never comfortable checking who else likes Vodka at an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. Genitalia can be just as sore of a topic. Check out some of the non-binary femme and genderqueer communities - more likely to find a non-op than a pre-op with long range plans for GRS. Plenty of precedent about couples front loading long term plans like deciding not have kids before they marry.
Hello, Transgaf! I've been following this thread for a little while. Consider me an ally! For some time now I've been pretty interested in the transgender community, and now that I can post here I have some things I wanted to clear up.
So, I have a question. In your experience, has their ever been a period of time where any of you developed denial of your gender identity *after* you already came to terms with, and in some cases even came out as transgender? Basically, have you ever realized you gender identity and later un-realized it by convincing yourself that you were wrong all along? ("I wasn't really trans, I was just confused.")
On the opposite note, is it possible for a cisgender person to develop some form of gender dysphoria for reasons unrelated to actually being trans? In other words, can a cisgender person mistakenly believe they are trans?
For some time now I've been pretty interested in the transgender community, and now that I can post here I have some things I wanted to clear up.So, I have a question. In your experience, has their ever been a period of time where any of you developed denial of your gender identity *after* you already came to terms with, and in some cases even came out as transgender? Basically, have you ever realized you gender identity and later un-realized it by convincing yourself that you were wrong all along? ("I wasn't really trans, I was just confused.")
On the opposite note, is it possible for a cisgender person to develop some form of gender dysphoria for reasons unrelated to actually being trans? In other words, can a cisgender person mistakenly believe they are trans?
Yes. Internalized transphobia, societal expectations, non binary gender identity, etc.; many possibilities of yes.
No*. Trans and transgender is inclusive of questioning. As a rough diagnostic tool,if you are questioning than you are not cisgender. *Transsexual is more restrictive a label and a person could potentially experience dysphoria if they transitioned too far into the wrong sex. A trangendered person could question if are transsexual. Especially for those who never settle such as genderqueer, bigender, or dualgender identies.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Various forms of psychological trauma can cause someone to believe they are trans when they really aren't. I know this isn't a real person, but the first name to come to mind is Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.
Mr. Shankly
Neo Member
Hello transgaf nice to meet you all. I'm excited to see there's a thread here for trans* people. This makes me feel more welcome ♡
nice to meet you all. I'm excited to see there's a thread here for trans* people. This makes me feel more welcome ♡Hello transgaf
Heya, Teddie!
I still haven't beaten Persona 4...
Persona 1 isn't very fun. I gave up on it. Haven't started 2 yet. I've completed P3P and should get around to P3FES at some point.
Haven't started 2 either, haven't even bought it yet. P3P is still in it's box, so you're ahead there. I'll slog through P1. (Public declarations make it easier to stick with resolutions, right? Haha) I got through FF1 so I'm sure I can get though something more modern.
Nice to meet you too. I've always been a fan of the open heart over the black one from the suits.
Hello transgaf
Nice to meet you too. I've always been a fan of the open heart over the black one from the suits.
Mr. Shankly
Neo Member
i wish i were teddie sob. I aspire to be as cute as that.I've never played P1! I don;t think there's many connections between P1, P2 and P3 and P4 (you see some P3 references in P4 tho). I honestly liked P3 a bit more than P4 but that's because P3 ripped my heart out sob.
Hello transgaf
Hello ! =D
Could you please elaborate more on your genderqueerness ?
Because i'm not sure if I understood by what you said in the girlgaf xD