All other documents run off the birth certificate in a lot of places. No change to that, then no change elsewhere.
Edit: Also, it's not changing history, it is more like correcting a mistake on a form.
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Transgaf: 'cause boys will be girls (and vice versa)
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All other documents run off the birth certificate in a lot of places. No change to that, then no change elsewhere.
Edit: Also, it's not changing history, it is more like correcting a mistake on a form.
It is not only practical, but symbolic to have it changed; I want my birth certificate to reflect the person I really am, and not what society thinks I should be.
This is what I am confused about. For a birth certificate I assume the M/F check box is only for biological sex. I understand any form after that is open for change, as it should be, but changing the check box that was made the day you were born seems odd. Although if the birth certificate needs to be changed in order to effect other documents this would make sense.
For those who don't follow my Twitter account religiously (for shame!), here's what I was treated to today when playing the first stage of Blue Estate (an on-rails shooter just released this week for PS4). For context: The game has pop-up information at various times, and this is one example. So it isn't any specific character saying this, but the "game" itself.
For those who don't follow my Twitter account religiously (for shame!), here's what I was treated to today when playing the first stage of Blue Estate (an on-rails shooter just released this week for PS4). For context: The game has pop-up information at various times, and this is one example. So it isn't any specific character saying this, but the "game" itself.
I saw this, just replied to a thread on Gaming about it.
Edit: which apparently went ignored. Oh well.
Why is it odd to correct a mistake?
Mistake implies there was some intelligent force behind it that put a wang on you for shits and giggles. Your body when one way while the brain went another. Thats a medical condition correctable through medication and surgery. Not a "mistake".
To sn00zer, I wouldn't say that the sex on a person's birth certificate is "biological" in the scientific sense; no tests aren't performed confirm a child's gender.. They simply look at the child's genitals and assign a sex at the moment of birth. Since that's the case, if one changes that through surgery, why wouldn't we change it the marker on that persons birth certificate?
The mistake was the doctor who looked "hey, that a vagina, so it must be a girl" or things like that =P
NewGamePlus
Member
I've already had my birth certificate changed once when my dad adopted me. It's just a vital document, but if it makes any difference, I don't think they "change it" but rather seal the previous one and create a new one. At least I think that's how it works in the US; I could be wrong. I don't really understand why people think they should be so sacrosanct in the first place.
You are assuming there has to be an intelligent force behind a mistake; nature is not perfect (hence the need for medicine and technology). Likewise, I suffer from gender dysphoria, and in my view being given a "wang" was most certainly a mistake. Dysphoria can be viewed as a medical condition, but it stems from a mistake caused by nature.
Well said.
Also: Congrats!
For those who don't follow my Twitter account religiously (for shame!), here's what I was treated to today when playing the first stage of Blue Estate (an on-rails shooter just released this week for PS4). For context: The game has pop-up information at various times, and this is one example. So it isn't any specific character saying this, but the "game" itself.
The developers could have at least been creative in their transphobia. Apple Adams, really?
I'm trans as well, been posting here on and off for years (Hi all you OG TransGAF peeps, it's Ains.) I just see this differently. I don't see my wee willy as mistake. More of an inconvenience and annoyance.
By intelligent being I meant a Doctor gendering babies he's delivering incorrectly out of spite. Wasn't going God on anyone if that's what you're implying.
No need to go defense mode.
I can live with mine well enough, but it still bothers me to the extent that I would much rather have it changed if I had the opportunity to do so; in that sense it's a mistake for me, but I understand that it won't be looked at in the same way for everyone. With that said, I feel like I should have been born a cisgirl, and would have much preferred that; so based on that I can say, personally, there was a mistake.
In that situation, it is still a mistake, but this time it is based on the doctor's actions. You will still have to live with dysphoria and everything that follows.
What was I in defense mode about?
Femmeworth
Banned
What the fuck. The transsexual tag on Tumblr is dominated by porn. I thought they made porn harder to find? Regardless, this is gross.
Edit: I found out how to disable the adult content.
Even adjusting the settings I still get some porn. Ugh.
Edit: I found out how to disable the adult content.
Even adjusting the settings I still get some porn. Ugh.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Lesson learned: don't walk chest first into doors. It smarts :s
Well, obviously.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Haha, I guess. 'snot like I did it on purpose
I kind of think I'm bad at therapy. I get super nervous at the start, have a hard time talking, and really only start to open up near the end. I also suck at leading the session anywhere, feel like I should be saying more but I don't know what to say. Feel like I made a little progress though, said a few things I've only thought and it felt like my gut sank and I was about to cry at one point.
Damn you brain, start making sense of things.
Damn you brain, start making sense of things.
Don't worry too much, it's just your second time. Most people are feeling weirded out when they never went to a stranger to talk about their problems. Just take your time to adjust, learn to know your therapist.
Asking a woman if they're pregnant before an x-ray is drilled into the heads of radiography students from the word go.
X-raying a pregnant woman, especially something like a abdominal x-ray, can be career ending. Not necessarily because the technician responsible is at fault, people lie or are unaware, but some go mad with guilt.
I did study radiography myself, but I withdrew from the course after a year for a number of reasons, my unresolved (At the time) gender identity issues being one of them.
Party Pooper! :'<
She was just saying that you flawlessly passed to then and it was not that you passed AND the person think you were fat
Yeah, geeze some people can not take a compliment!
Femmeworth
Banned
This thread is off to a "great" start. Fuck, I'm not touching that thread anymore. Good luck to anyone that does.
NewGamePlus
Member
Well I for one am glad to see that GAF could once again come to a near consensus on an issue that most posters have absolutely no experience or involvement with.
Edit: Btw, my mom was watching that show when I got home from class last night, and I heard the start of that song when I was in the kitchen. One of the first lines was something like "but she had a little bit more," and I instantly thought it was either going to be a fat joke or a trans joke. Score one for my cynicism. I didn't actually stick around for the rest of it though.
Edit: Btw, my mom was watching that show when I got home from class last night, and I heard the start of that song when I was in the kitchen. One of the first lines was something like "but she had a little bit more," and I instantly thought it was either going to be a fat joke or a trans joke. Score one for my cynicism. I didn't actually stick around for the rest of it though.
Discussing trans issues on GAF is a complete waste of time and nobody is interested in fixing that. Just stay out of those threads for your own well being because they are so utterly toxic.
All in the name of "debate" and "discussion".
Hey Transgaf. I figured I have been on gaf long enough that it's about time I said hi! I kinda delayed it as I was pretty confused before but my therapist put me on spiro about 6 months ago just to "try" it and now there is just no going back. Going to go in next around the end of Aug (unless someone cancels before then) and get tests and stuff for estrogen!
So uh... Howdy I guess
So uh... Howdy I guess
Perspicacity
Banned
Hey I just wanted to say that it's super fucked up that posts from members of Transgaf go largely ignored in threads like those. I used to have the same dumb opinions as everyone else there but reading GAF threads and posts from members here has helped me to be a more empathetic person, both towards trans people and in general.
Thanks for being here and I'm sorry that people suck.
I ducked out when somebody said something along the lines of "sometimes transgaf can be wrong". Nobody needs that kind of noise
Thanks for the support!
Necromanti
Member
While people are more blatantly bigoted in trans threads, it's the same in any thread involving race, sexuality, gender, sex, culture, or anything that can be discriminated against, but I don't seem to learn my lesson. I'm legitimately mentally exhausted at this point.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well I had my first therapy session so I guess thats my first big step towards things.
Frankly some of the people who mean well aren't helping either.
Trans people not telling their partner when in a LTR just doesn't happen yet both well meaning people and the transphobes are arguing over this possibility, like it's a really common thing.
This whole "tricking" straight dudes thing is one of the most transphobic tropes around yet it's fair game to discuss it on here, like it's legitimate discourse.
Whatever.
Trans people not telling their partner when in a LTR just doesn't happen yet both well meaning people and the transphobes are arguing over this possibility, like it's a really common thing.
This whole "tricking" straight dudes thing is one of the most transphobic tropes around yet it's fair game to discuss it on here, like it's legitimate discourse.
Whatever.
Femmeworth
Banned
The cognitive dissonance is overwhelming. They can't accept being labeled as transphobic so they limit the definition.
That thread is really wrecking my mind, as if it doesn't have enough to deal with already.
I've been, for a good month or so, completely content with myself. I came to terms with being trans, I started to embrace it a little, and I even found a name that I really liked for myself (Rebecca, for those curious). But last night I was talking with my mother about a couple of family friends, including ones that are my age. Of the two we are talking about, the husband is a military guy getting out in a few months, and the wife is a lot like me: high levels of anxiety, stress, etc. The problem is that he doesn't quite understand that stuff, and actually hits her (Granted, she'll hit back, but that's not the point I'm getting at).
I know this girl, and I'll admit, I like her a bit. But the only feelings I get are jealousy and anger when I hear this. That touches off on my mind again the struggle of figuring myself out again. And again, even though it shouldn't effect me, the thoughts of society's acceptance creep into my mind as well.
I know I should be looking at the time I was happy, the time I was content. However, I guess, my masculinity seems to be what is at odds here. I hate it. But I can't ignore it.
I've been, for a good month or so, completely content with myself. I came to terms with being trans, I started to embrace it a little, and I even found a name that I really liked for myself (Rebecca, for those curious). But last night I was talking with my mother about a couple of family friends, including ones that are my age. Of the two we are talking about, the husband is a military guy getting out in a few months, and the wife is a lot like me: high levels of anxiety, stress, etc. The problem is that he doesn't quite understand that stuff, and actually hits her (Granted, she'll hit back, but that's not the point I'm getting at).
I know this girl, and I'll admit, I like her a bit. But the only feelings I get are jealousy and anger when I hear this. That touches off on my mind again the struggle of figuring myself out again. And again, even though it shouldn't effect me, the thoughts of society's acceptance creep into my mind as well.
I know I should be looking at the time I was happy, the time I was content. However, I guess, my masculinity seems to be what is at odds here. I hate it. But I can't ignore it.