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Transgaf: 'cause boys will be girls (and vice versa)

Amalthea

Banned
Mostly just being around tons of people, so there are a lot of women walking around for me to get jealous of. Especially all the fun hair and cute nerd clothes I want :/
Your time will come as well, try to see it as a motivation instead of letting yourself get lost in sadness.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Mostly just being around tons of people, so there are a lot of women walking around for me to get jealous of. Especially all the fun hair and cute nerd clothes I want :/

This got to be really bad for me as well.

Thankfully since I started, dressing, acting and doing hygiene like a woman should I find things much easier.

I still have a hard time, because I'm quite clearly a woman in a mans body, but still it takes a lot of the sting away.
 

Alchemy

Member
This got to be really bad for me as well.

Thankfully since I started, dressing, acting and doing hygiene like a woman should I find things much easier.

I still have a hard time, because I'm quite clearly a woman in a mans body, but still it takes a lot of the sting away.

I was doing little things like that which was helping immensely, but I'm stuck in a hotel room with frat bro types who don't know I'm transgender so I'm going crazy >.>

Want to go home and shave everything.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I was doing little things like that which was helping immensely, but I'm stuck in a hotel room with frat bro types who don't know I'm transgender so I'm going crazy >.>

Want to go home and shave everything.
Oh goddess I had that last week.

Can't shave for three days before electrolysis. I was darn near to the point I was going to claw the hair out if I waited much longer.
 

Amalthea

Banned
Oh goddess I had that last week.

Can't shave for three days before electrolysis. I was darn near to the point I was going to claw the hair out if I waited much longer.
I haaaate this so much. Worst thing is that I use public transportation to get to my clinic. Even if I had a car they had removed the parking lot next to the building anyway.

Everybody tells me my stubble is not noticeable but I know that it's there and it drives me crazy.
 
I really want electrolysis or anything to get rid of my facial hair because while my father and grandfather can not shave for like two weeks and barely have any stubble, I don't shave for like three days and I'll have a whole Honest Abe thing going on.

I hate it.
 
Plucking and/or epilating is a really good, accessible solution to removing facial hair if laser or electrolysis aren't financially viable in the short-term. If you maintain it semi-regularly, it slows down and thins out your growth immensely. It hurts a lot when you've never done it before, but after a few sessions, it rarely hurts outside of sensitive areas like the septum. I've been doing it 2-6 times a month for about five months now, and where I'm at now, I haven't plucked in 12 days and all that's left is peach fuzz with a couple of short, puny, invisible dark hairs that can only be seen on super-close examination--which is in line with what my cis bestie experiences on her face.

Source: I used to have a huge, thick beard, and shaving's always irritated my skin.
 

Alchemy

Member
Do you have an epilator? I've been looking around but have no idea what works well for thick hair. A bit afraid of plunking down $100 on something when I don't know what I'm doing. Was actually looking at home laser lits as well.
 

Anastasia

Member
Can't comment on at-home laser solutions, but I have an Emjoi eRase which works pretty well; I don't have thick body hair though. From what I've seen the Emjoi epilators seem to be some of the better rated ones, so I would give that brand a look.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I haaaate this so much. Worst thing is that I use public transportation to get to my clinic. Even if I had a car they had removed the parking lot next to the building anyway.

Everybody tells me my stubble is not noticeable but I know that it's there and it drives me crazy.

Oooh I know.

I want it gone completely, so not doing Electrolysis isn't really an option I can accept, but damn it was so bad. The moment I would even graze my face I would have to activity fight the reaction to use my nails and rip that stuff out haha.

The worst part is that the Doc said we should be doing it once a week, up to once every two weeks, so I constantly have to hair on my face.......it's like torture.

I had a pretty bad crash the last few days, got really depressed and started to feel like it would never happen and started doubting (not that Im transgendered mind) that I was doing the right thing, and maybe I was projecting or shouldn't be doing it. Then again I have a past of Anxiety and Depression. I have to say though, since I've let myself be who I want to be the depression and anxiety is very rare, and now its fear of losing it.


Thankfully I'm coming out of it.

I'm actually doing Vocal Training using some Aaproach techs and stuff, anyone else use it to try and help raise the voice?
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I'm sure it is.

I just have been very lucky that I've gotten as much h love and support as I have so that I was able to pull out of it and it didn't consume me like it has in the past.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Yeah shaving has become one of the most important things in my life.

It is how I deal with everything and something small but I can do it every day and it makes me feel a little bit closer to being a woman. I don't think I could ever give it up with out some serious mental feedback.
 

Dash_

Member
I've been through periods when my leg hair didn't bother me so much because it doesn't grow very thick, and I wouldn't shave for a few weeks because I knew I'd be wearing jeans all the time. Have to swear by epilation though nowadays. It really does do wonders. Only have to do my legs once a month and tidy up slightly over it.

Anyways. I've booked my FFS for the end of october with Dr. Bart Van de Ven . So glad that I have a date that's down, because the uncertainty as to who I was going with has been on my mind since the summer. Just a bit anxious that my passport arrives in time, as a new one takes six weeks here.

I will not miss this face as it is.
 

Anastasia

Member
I've been through periods when my leg hair didn't bother me so much because it doesn't grow very thick, and I wouldn't shave for a few weeks because I knew I'd be wearing jeans all the time. Have to swear by epilation though nowadays. It really does do wonders. Only have to do my legs once a month and tidy up slightly over it.

Anyways. I've booked my FFS for the end of october with Dr. Bart Van de Ven . So glad that I have a date that's down, because the uncertainty as to who I was going with has been on my mind since the summer. Just a bit anxious that my passport arrives in time, as a new one takes six weeks here.

I will not miss this face as it is.

Congrats! Hope all goes well. ^^

FFS is still a bit off in the future for me, but I can't wait to finally be able to do it. I looked up Dr. Bart and his results seem really good.
 

Dash_

Member
Thanks hun. : )

I'm two years into transition, so I've let HRT take it's course as much as I can face-wise. Can't wait for the myspace angles to stop after I've had surgery and I can feel more confident about being myself.
 

Dash_

Member
Yeah, he definitely seems to be the most aggressive surgeon when it comes to facial feminisation in Europe. I saw Facial Team and Brian Musgrove as well in person (along with a consulting few others online), but the former was too expensive for too little and the latter seemed overly conservative in approach.
 
even though i know what FFS is and why people get it (of course, i want it in the future), like the procedures done still confuse me

mostly because i'm not a surgeon so i don't know how to surgery and stuff
 

Platy

Member
Surgery is ALWAYS basicaly getting hurt with a doctor next to you ... they are all very ogre and have lots of blood.


The less you know what they do the better =P
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I've been through periods when my leg hair didn't bother me so much because it doesn't grow very thick, and I wouldn't shave for a few weeks because I knew I'd be wearing jeans all the time. Have to swear by epilation though nowadays. It really does do wonders. Only have to do my legs once a month and tidy up slightly over it.

Anyways. I've booked my FFS for the end of october with Dr. Bart Van de Ven . So glad that I have a date that's down, because the uncertainty as to who I was going with has been on my mind since the summer. Just a bit anxious that my passport arrives in time, as a new one takes six weeks here.

I will not miss this face as it is.
Congratulations, this is such an amazing step to be taking, I'm not sure what ill have when my comes but its really awesome to see someone on Gag hitting this stage.
 

Dash_

Member
Rest well. : ) Did things got easier during PAX after what you described further up the page?


Congratulations, this is such an amazing step to be taking, I'm not sure what ill have when my comes but its really awesome to see someone on Gag hitting this stage.

Thanks. : ) still have a ways to go though.
 

Alchemy

Member
Rest well. : ) Did things got easier during PAX after what you described further up the page?

Things changed from being jealous to being tired from standing all day to just hating how my body ended up after a week away from my daily routine and shaving. Happy right now because I have a few days to get things back on track, and can go back to counting down the days until my doctors appointment (15!).

And I have kitties to cuddle again :3
 

Kaywee

Member
I just want to introduce myself in the thread. Hi!

I am about 9 months into my transition and just found this thread. I am happy to see a great trans community here on GAF.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I just want to introduce myself in the thread. Hi!

I am about 9 months into my transition and just found this thread. I am happy to see a great trans community here on GAF.

Welcome!!!

Granted I'm a recent entrant to the Community, but Gaf Transgender community has been very warm and welcoming, so it's really great for us who've joined recently.
 

Anastasia

Member
Wow that's amazing the results it has.

Yeah, he definitely seems to be the most aggressive surgeon when it comes to facial feminisation in Europe. I saw Facial Team and Brian Musgrove as well in person (along with a consulting few others online), but the former was too expensive for too little and the latter seemed overly conservative in approach.

That is really awesome. I have a friend that went to Dr. Z in the US and had equally good results.

It's pretty incredible what can be achieved with FFS.

I'm thinking after a year on hormones I'll start seriously looking into surgery. I'm not totally sure what the recommended timeline for FFS is though. Also there's being able to afford it; from what I've read Dr. Bart seems very reasonable, so he might be an option.

I just want to introduce myself in the thread. Hi!

I am about 9 months into my transition and just found this thread. I am happy to see a great trans community here on GAF.

Welcome! ^^
 

Platy

Member
Welcome, new people

It's pretty incredible what can be achieved with FFS.

I'm thinking after a year on hormones I'll start seriously looking into surgery. I'm not totally sure what the recommended timeline for FFS is though. Also there's being able to afford it; from what I've read Dr. Bart seems very reasonable, so he might be an option.

People usualy ask to wait at least 2 years for any non genital surgery because you can have a better idea about how the fat distribution changes will afect your body/face

I personaly think FFS is overated.... but then again I live in a country where havng money to SRS is a dream, so doing both is praticaly impossible.
 

Mumei

Member
Hiya, TransGAF. I finished a really fascinating book called Just One Of The Guys? Transgender Men and the Persistence of Gender Inequality today. It was particularly enlightening because it helped explain some of what appeared to be inconsistencies in explanations of what being transgender means (that is, some explanations seemed to reify the gender binary; other explanations seemed to deconstruct it and I wasn't able to reconcile them). And the historical overview of perspectives from the gender clinic era (1960s - 1980s) which pathologized transsexuals to the rise of transgender activism and the queering of the binary in the 1990s to the emphasis on biological diversity; arguing for gender variance in the same way lgb advocates have argued for variance in sexual orientation. Anyway, it turns out that some of the explanations I'd read before were centered around outdated assumptions of the gender clinic period.

But it primarily is a study of the work experiences of a group of transmen, which it uses to talk about the social practice of gender, how even trans men [who are white, pass as men, and educated] benefit from the masculine dividend, and helps explain why trans men often see benefits and why trans women are much more likely to see losses or resistance. It's too complicated to sum up, and for me a lot of it was confirmation rather than revelation but it was nice to see it summarized and particularly to have the "intimate" connections between the marginalization of transgender people, women, and homosexuals laid out so clearly.

Definitely recommend for anyone looking for something to read on the subject.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Hiya, TransGAF. I finished a really fascinating book called Just One Of The Guys? Transgender Men and the Persistence of Gender Inequality today. It was particularly enlightening because it helped explain some of what appeared to be inconsistencies in explanations of what being transgender means (that is, some explanations seemed to reify the gender binary; other explanations seemed to deconstruct it and I wasn't able to reconcile them). And the historical overview of perspectives from the gender clinic era (1960s - 1980s) which pathologized transsexuals to the rise of transgender activism and the queering of the binary in the 1990s to the emphasis on biological diversity; arguing for gender variance in the same way lgb advocates have argued for variance in sexual orientation. Anyway, it turns out that some of the explanations I'd read before were centered around outdated assumptions of the gender clinic period.

But it primarily is a study of the work experiences of a group of transmen, which it uses to talk about the social practice of gender, how even trans men [who are white, pass as men, and educated] benefit from the masculine dividend, and helps explain why trans men often see benefits and why trans women are much more likely to see losses or resistance. It's too complicated to sum up, and for me a lot of it was confirmation rather than revelation but it was nice to see it summarized and particularly to have the "intimate" connections between the marginalization of transgender people, women, and homosexuals laid out so clearly.

Definitely recommend for anyone looking for something to read on the subject.

This is really interesting. I will look to see if there is a copy of the Kindle store and give it a read.

Given what happened to me today makes the bottom particularly interesting.

I went to an advanced specialist earlier after having been recommended by my current therapist and after an hour and a half discussion se said flat out she agrees with my assessment that I should be moving towards Estrogen and said that she will actively recommend and pass me for it.

So I must say I'm floating on Cloud nine here and am like the happiest girl on the planet right now. So that part about how Trans Women actually have it and how that plays out should probably bother me a bit, but I've dreamed and feared that this would never happen for so long that I can't help but feel like even still I won't be denied.

Thanks for sharing the book title Mumei

Edit: Nice it is on the store, 14.99 a bit high for a digital book but I think I will bite the bullet and check it out.
 

Kaywee

Member
This is really interesting. I will look to see if there is a copy of the Kindle store and give it a read.

Given what happened to me today makes the bottom particularly interesting.

I went to an advanced specialist earlier after having been recommended by my current therapist and after an hour and a half discussion se said flat out she agrees with my assessment that I should be moving towards Estrogen and said that she will actively recommend and pass me for it.

So I must say I'm floating on Cloud nine here and am like the happiest girl on the planet right now. So that part about how Trans Women actually have it and how that plays out should probably bother me a bit, but I've dreamed and feared that this would never happen for so long that I can't help but feel like even still I won't be denied.

Thanks for sharing the book title Mumei

Edit: Nice it is on the store, 14.99 a bit high for a digital book but I think I will bite the bullet and check it out.

Congrats TruePrime!

Hormones are amazing and I am glad your on the road to happiness.
 

Platy

Member
So I must say I'm floating on Cloud nine here and am like the happiest girl on the planet right now. So that part about how Trans Women actually have it and how that plays out should probably bother me a bit, but I've dreamed and feared that this would never happen for so long that I can't help but feel like even still I won't be denied.

First time I got catcalled I was like a mix of emotions like "awesome ! You asshole come here so I can give you a hug ... with my fists till you are dead as a thank you gift for recognizing me"
 

Anura

Member
Hiya, TransGAF. I finished a really fascinating book called Just One Of The Guys? Transgender Men and the Persistence of Gender Inequality today. It was particularly enlightening because it helped explain some of what appeared to be inconsistencies in explanations of what being transgender means (that is, some explanations seemed to reify the gender binary; other explanations seemed to deconstruct it and I wasn't able to reconcile them). And the historical overview of perspectives from the gender clinic era (1960s - 1980s) which pathologized transsexuals to the rise of transgender activism and the queering of the binary in the 1990s to the emphasis on biological diversity; arguing for gender variance in the same way lgb advocates have argued for variance in sexual orientation. Anyway, it turns out that some of the explanations I'd read before were centered around outdated assumptions of the gender clinic period.

But it primarily is a study of the work experiences of a group of transmen, which it uses to talk about the social practice of gender, how even trans men [who are white, pass as men, and educated] benefit from the masculine dividend, and helps explain why trans men often see benefits and why trans women are much more likely to see losses or resistance. It's too complicated to sum up, and for me a lot of it was confirmation rather than revelation but it was nice to see it summarized and particularly to have the "intimate" connections between the marginalization of transgender people, women, and homosexuals laid out so clearly.

Definitely recommend for anyone looking for something to read on the subject.

I kinda want to get this book now.
 

Alchemy

Member
Sorry, I hate shooters.

But Destiny is a dance game!

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Anastasia

Member
People usualy ask to wait at least 2 years for any non genital surgery because you can have a better idea about how the fat distribution changes will afect your body/face

I personaly think FFS is overated.... but then again I live in a country where havng money to SRS is a dream, so doing both is praticaly impossible.

It's such a personal thing that I wouldn't call it overrated; it really depends on the person, what they need and want, what can be afforded, etc. In my case, I would prioritize it above SRS, unless I was bleeding money.

Is anyone here playing Destiny on the Ps4?

Yep! I have the PS4 version pre-ordered. I had lots of fun with the beta, and am really looking forward to jumping back in.

My PSN is SpaceKathryn if you'd like to play sometime. ^^
 
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