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Transgaf: 'cause boys will be girls (and vice versa)

Jawmuncher

Member
I REALLY hope they cut Don Corneo quest in FF7 HD... there is no way that modern japan don't make it ridiculously offensive in hd

It would depend on a lot of things. More than likely it will be cut though. They'll probably rework it to where cloud can come in as a guard or something.
 

Platy

Member
Lets hope transgender rights advances a lot in the next 5 years and when the game finaly launches it will be booed for those reasons
 

Reishiki

Banned
I really don't mind about that scene. I'm just going to have a hard time processing everything when I'm so used to low-resolution backgrounds and HUEG POLYGON character models.
 

sploatee

formerly Oynox Slider
I REALLY hope they cut Don Corneo quest in FF7 HD... there is no way that modern japan don't make it ridiculously offensive in hd

What's the quest? I don't play JRPGs.

My faves are Sylvia Rivera, Marsha P. Johnson, Leslie Feinberg, Mya Hall, and Kylie Brooks. :)

Ooo! Good ones! Big fan of Leslie Feinberg. What do you think of Julia Serano?

Laverne Cox and Janet Mock are the big two.

Not on this list- Caitlyn Jenner

Why not on the list?

Laverne is amazing.

Laura Jane Grace from Against Me!. Transitioning while in a relatively big band and public industry was and still is really brave and inspiring.

The album Transgender Dysphoria Blues along with my reaction while listening to it was a big push towards seriously thinking about my gender and such.

Good one too! The title song is a good one when I feel a bit weighed down.
 

Amalthea

Banned
Going to a meet-up for youg trans*people today.
Kinda nervous. Always feel like I'm being able to fit into the trans*community just as badly as into cis ones.

It's nice to be trans and and pass but if you're a social cripple like me you will always still be the "other" for anyone.
 

Sibylus

Banned
Why not on the list?

Laverne is amazing.
Before the big reveal she remarked that after the Vanity Fair cover she'd finally be free.

Suffice to say an airbrushed photo shoot isn't freedom to me or to any trans person I have ever known. Access and affordability of trans healthcare, legal amendment procedures and protections, social support networks... this is freedom for trans people. Consider trans people of color and that list only grows and grows and grows.
 

Lady Gaia

Member
Before the big reveal she remarked that after the Vanity Fair cover she'd finally be free.

Suffice to say an airbrushed photo shoot isn't freedom to me or to any trans person I have ever known.

I think it's fair to say that her situation may well be very different from any trans person you've ever known. That doesn't make her situation wrong, or her suffering from gender dysphoria for decades any less real. No, I don't think she makes a particularly useful role model and I keep expecting her politics to lead her down the path of making life more difficult for less privileged trans women (... and that would be pretty much everyone.) So far, though, she has been better than I expected.

Jenny Boylan is on my list of positive examples along with Janet Mock and Laverne Cox. I met Kimberly Reed at a conference a while back and enjoyed her unique story as partially documented by her movie Prodigal Sons.
 

mollipen

Member
Access and affordability of trans healthcare, legal amendment procedures and protections, social support networks... this is freedom for trans people.

I already have healthcare and can afford the things that aren't covered, I've yet to run into any legal situation where I live where I don't already have the protections that I need, and I'm the type of person who can typically get along in life just fine without "social support systems".

My "freedom" in all of this has come from very different sources, probably ones close to hers. So am I in the same boat as Jenner? I absolutely do not discount the struggles a lot of trans people have, nor the huge advancements we NEED for all of us, nor the fact that I'm a situation I should be thankful for (which I am). But the "who has it worse" and "whose is more trans" games are dangerous ones to play.

I don't mean most of my harshness at you, but it's something I've been pissed off about in terms of the trans community's attitude toward Caitlyn at times. "She isn't trans enough" or "she hasn't sufferend enough" or whatever is total BS.
 

Platy

Member

Linked AFTER the best part

Men's Hall
The gym is a gathering point for cross-dressers and is led by a man named "Beautiful Bro". The player can play a squatting minigame to obtain a wig. The best wig is obtained by winning the squatting game.

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Highlights of the quest includes cliche reactions of "what ? it was a dude all along" when Don Corneo is about to marry Cloud, lots of references do sexual assault (they are entering an "adult's club" to save a girl friend) and ridiculous amount of homophobia (at best) and a bit of sexual harrassment at the gym

Muscled mustache dudes who crossdress ?
Using crossdressing to FOOL people into choosing you as bride ?
Woman being trapped into an adult's club ?

SURE japan can handle this with the seriousness it deserves
 
I already have healthcare and can afford the things that aren't covered, I've yet to run into any legal situation where I live where I don't already have the protections that I need, and I'm the type of person who can typically get along in life just fine without "social support systems".

My "freedom" in all of this has come from very different sources, probably ones close to hers. So am I in the same boat as Jenner? I absolutely do not discount the struggles a lot of trans people have, nor the huge advancements we NEED for all of us, nor the fact that I'm a situation I should be thankful for (which I am). But the "who has it worse" and "whose is more trans" games are dangerous ones to play.

I don't mean most of my harshness at you, but it's something I've been pissed off about in terms of the trans community's attitude toward Caitlyn at times. "She isn't trans enough" or "she hasn't sufferend enough" or whatever is total BS.


I'd say that her politics set her apart more than anything. They pretty much fuck over anyone who is not in her position. I am also rather privileged for a transperson but I know how tenuous that position can be. I would never favor policies that could fuck over the poor. Or back politicians that question my very right to exist.

She does both of those things. There is nothing wrong with us just ignoring her, just like there is nothing wrong with me as a Black person ignoring Allen West or Ben Carson for doing the same thing.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
Going to a meet-up for youg trans*people today.
Kinda nervous. Always feel like I'm being able to fit into the trans*community just as badly as into cis ones.

It's nice to be trans and and pass but if you're a social cripple like me you will always still be the "other" for anyone.

Hope it goes well.
 
Going to a meet-up for youg trans*people today.
Kinda nervous. Always feel like I'm being able to fit into the trans*community just as badly as into cis ones.

It's nice to be trans and and pass but if you're a social cripple like me you will always still be the "other" for anyone.

Good luck. I always feel like other transwomen hate being around me since I am so obviously trans that it outs them as well.
 

Dai101

Banned
Going to a meet-up for youg trans*people today.
Kinda nervous. Always feel like I'm being able to fit into the trans*community just as badly as into cis ones.

It's nice to be trans and and pass but if you're a social cripple like me you will always still be the "other" for anyone.

Good luck girl

**hugs
 

Amalthea

Banned
Oh, I'm already back. It was surprisingly good. Tried to relax and have no expectations.

We even went for a drink and some food afterwards. I had never done this before.
I'm a bit tipsy now. Not used to much alcohol. Good thing I have no dick anymore that thing would always burn like hell when I just drank the least bit of booze.

Guess my social skills have developed a bit since last time.
 

sploatee

formerly Oynox Slider
Before the big reveal she remarked that after the Vanity Fair cover she'd finally be free.

Suffice to say an airbrushed photo shoot isn't freedom to me or to any trans person I have ever known. Access and affordability of trans healthcare, legal amendment procedures and protections, social support networks... this is freedom for trans people. Consider trans people of color and that list only grows and grows and grows.

I can understand this. My problem is one of the superficiality of it - it's very much all about how passable she is. I think there are better role models, but a plurality of public trans figures is a good thing overall.


I already have healthcare and can afford the things that aren't covered, I've yet to run into any legal situation where I live where I don't already have the protections that I need, and I'm the type of person who can typically get along in life just fine without "social support systems".

My "freedom" in all of this has come from very different sources, probably ones close to hers. So am I in the same boat as Jenner? I absolutely do not discount the struggles a lot of trans people have, nor the huge advancements we NEED for all of us, nor the fact that I'm a situation I should be thankful for (which I am). But the "who has it worse" and "whose is more trans" games are dangerous ones to play.

I don't mean most of my harshness at you, but it's something I've been pissed off about in terms of the trans community's attitude toward Caitlyn at times. "She isn't trans enough" or "she hasn't sufferend enough" or whatever is total BS.

I agree with this too. She is an individual as are the other public trans figures and they're all valid. I wish the discussion wasn't so much around the "visual" but that's media and that's women in the media in general.

Good luck. I always feel like other transwomen hate being around me since I am so obviously trans that it outs them as well.

I hate this. It makes me angry to read it. I would never, ever do this. Hell no. It goes against who I am and what I believe in. Obviously, if you were a dick I'd hate being around you but I see no evidence of that :)

Oh, I'm already back. It was surprisingly good. Tried to relax and have no expectations.

We even went for a drink and some food afterwards. I had never done this before.
I'm a bit tipsy now. Not used to much alcohol. Good thing I have no dick anymore that thing would always burn like hell when I just drank the least bit of booze.

Guess my social skills have developed a bit since last time.

I'm really glad :) You always came across as a pretty able social person, I think you are just your own biggest critic.
 

Sibylus

Banned
Couple clarifications on the Caitlyn Jenner thing- no, I don't believe she isn't "trans enough" or hasn't "suffered enough" to be a community figure or whathaveyou... she's just not done anything except pop onto Vanity Fair. Doesn't speak to my (comparatively) poorer trans experience, nor to my craving for figures that stand for more than looking sexy in a magazine and passing. Happy life to her, but I look up to trans women who fight for more than the pretty white ones of us at the top.
 

forms

Member
My poor kid has been having loads and loads of troubles with depression and related issues. So now when we are approaching the end of the obligatory (in Sweden) examination, that is closing in on the period where correction procedure can commence, she has gone into some serious eating disorders. Now, I know this cannot be easily fixed with medication or magic gestures, but I just wonder if this is "normal"? That is, as far as normality goes with individuals, considering a person that is extremely dissatisfied with their current body.

And yes, I am of course in contact with all involved doctors, but getting real comments feels just as important.
 

Amalthea

Banned
Yeah, sounds familiar. In my puberty I barely ate while the other kids were chomping down snacks almost non-stop. Often I would just eat very small portions and pasta only with some salt instead of grated cheese and sauce and cut off all the fat from meat. I tried to make it into a game to beat my hunger. On one hand I wanted to torture that body I had and feel an other pain than my inner suffering on the other I had heard of children who didn't go trough puberty because of malnutrition or anorexia.

Your child gets support from you and I guess soon puberty blockers too but she will still fight a battle with her gender dysphoria and people who can't accept her.

Personally I kinda regret my eating disorders now, up until my early twenties I had a BMI of only 16 and now I still get health-troubles in hot weather like I developed back then such as hearth skips, circulatory problems, fainting, lack of coordination, weakness, dizziness.

I always look back to this and think: "If only I could've gotten puberty blockers then this wouldn't have happened." But my parents were strictly against such things.

I'm really glad :) You always came across as a pretty able social person, I think you are just your own biggest critic.
You couldn't count how many people have already told me that. :p
 

mollipen

Member
Nobody watch that video! I am fat and ugly in it. *laughs* Also, sadly or doesn't include the first round fights, so you don't get to see me win that round.
 

balgajo

Member
Hello there everyone!
I came here to ask you folks a question.
Do you think that it's a problem to talk about the sex of a baby, even when we're interested about the sex, not gender?

I'm just curious because I saw something like this in a page here in Brazil and seemed like an absurd to me, but I wanted to know about your perspective on this to understand better the subject.
 

Platy

Member
Nobody watch that video! I am fat and ugly in it. *laughs* Also, sadly or doesn't include the first round fights, so you don't get to see me win that round.

C'mon ! ... you are not ... and even if you were, it is better than being fat and ugly and nowhere near e3 xD
 
A bit late but congrats to Alchemy and Beth on the licenses! :D

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Going to rant a bit. It's really late and I haven't slept so this might be a mess to read.

I went out on my own for a show tonight/last night. I almost didn't but I'm starting to become a recluse outside of going to work and wanted to at least make an effort.

As I've said in previous post(s) here probably, I've taken no real steps outside of letting my hair grow (which is taking forever, and might be thinning D:) so I get a lot of "hey man"s and such. It really isn't that huge of a deal because random people don't know, it just kind of starts to wear me down after the third or fourth time it has happened. It seems like ever since I started to really think about transitioning the littlest things have become more bothersome.

There was a friendly group that let me hang with them throughout the night and included me in conversations but I feel like I was socially inept. At times I was struggling to just make small talk with them. It wasn't all that bad and I really hit it off with the one person, but it feels off.

I guess there's a part of me that even with strangers feels like I'm hiding. It's hard for me to form even casual friendships because I constantly have trouble sharing even the most basic personal information and thoughts. It also doesn't help that there's the lingering thoughts of whether they'd be accepting of me or not. Sometimes I try to hint at subjects to test how someone feels about certain things but it isn't always easy or natural in context of a conversation.

I'm going to work on it though. I've never really been at ease in most social situations to begin with, so now it just has a bit more on top of it I guess.

In more positive news, I've settled on a name and it works as a gender neutral one as well so I've started using it with new people in real life.
 
A bit late but congrats to Alchemy and Beth on the licenses! :D

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Going to rant a bit. It's really late and I haven't slept so this might be a mess to read.

I went out on my own for a show tonight/last night. I almost didn't but I'm starting to become a recluse outside of going to work and wanted to at least make an effort.

As I've said in previous post(s) here probably, I've taken no real steps outside of letting my hair grow (which is taking forever, and might be thinning D:) so I get a lot of "hey man"s and such. It really isn't that huge of a deal because random people don't know, it just kind of starts to wear me down after the third or fourth time it has happened. It seems like ever since I started to really think about transitioning the littlest things have become more bothersome.

There was a friendly group that let me hang with them throughout the night and included me in conversations but I feel like I was socially inept. At times I was struggling to just make small talk with them. It wasn't all that bad and I really hit it off with the one person, but it feels off.

I guess there's a part of me that even with strangers feels like I'm hiding. It's hard for me to form even casual friendships because I constantly have trouble sharing even the most basic personal information and thoughts. It also doesn't help that there's the lingering thoughts of whether they'd be accepting of me or not. Sometimes I try to hint at subjects to test how someone feels about certain things but it isn't always easy or natural in context of a conversation.

I'm going to work on it though. I've never really been at ease in most social situations to begin with, so now it just has a bit more on top of it I guess.

In more positive news, I've settled on a name and it works as a gender neutral one as well so I've started using it with new people in real life.


That's awesome. I feel you on the hair. I have an Afro and sadly that will always make people say "guy" unless there is a fuckload of undeniable girl under there, which I do not bring. Sadly relaxers require me to keep going back and getting the new growth redone every 3-4 weeks and my scalp just never reacts to braids well, so no long flowing hair for me.


Also, I feel like I am hiding. I have had to hide up until this point and it does keep me from making friends. You seem like you are still moving forward. That is awesome. Finding accepting people is great and hard. Acceptance means so many things to so many people. You have those who just say "You are a woman" and leave it at that and there are those that really want to accept but will always have you in an "other" box, which I guess is better than a "male" box but is still less than many of us want.

For me, it has always been about balancing how much interaction you desire with how much shit you are willing to put up with. Not the most uplifting advise but it is how I started going about making friends back in Atlanta.

Good luck with everything that you are doing.
 
I got my driver's license replaced the other day. I lost it like a year ago and never found the time to get all the paperwork together and get myself down to the DMV for a day. Wasn't expecting them to take a new photo--I looked stressed and was definitely hung over. I was glad I was a completionist and brought my court orders, since they asked me to produce them.

Ooo! Good ones! Big fan of Leslie Feinberg. What do you think of Julia Serano?

I like a lot of her writing, but it's missing the kind of communist critique I prefer out of my trans heroes :)
 
I might have accidentally outed myself to a family member earlier. I changed my mii and name on the 3DS since it's one of the few places I can be open but didn't think about the possibility of streetpassing someone I know personally.

I tried to say the Mii was of a musician/celeb that I like but I'm not sure how natural it seemed.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I might have accidentally outed myself to a family member earlier. I changed my mii and name on the 3DS since it's one of the few places I can be open but didn't think about the possibility of streetpassing someone I know personally.

I tried to say the Mii was of a musician/celeb that I like but I'm not sure how natural it seemed.
Wow. I hope everything is okay, even more if your not ready for your family to find out. Stay positive and if we can do anything let us know.
 

Lady Gaia

Member
I might have accidentally outed myself to a family member earlier.

You may be amazed at how obvious the hints need to get before anyone has any idea. On the other hand, people will assume you're gay at the drop of a hat (female avatar, so you must be trying to appeal to men, right?) The fact that the assumption makes no sense at all is of little consequence. Nobody but the transgender community ever thinks someone else might be trans.

Even so, I hope it doesn't lead to awkward conversations.
 
Wow. I hope everything is okay, even more if your not ready for your family to find out. Stay positive and if we can do anything let us know.

I should be okay, it was just kind of a wake up call to how careless I have been about staying closeted I guess. It's not a huge problem as I think my family will react well and I do have some backup plans if things don't go well, I just wasn't ready. I keep finding convenient excuses to not tell people when I've made plans to.

You may be amazed at how obvious the hints need to get before anyone has any idea. On the other hand, people will assume you're gay at the drop of a hat (female avatar, so you must be trying to appeal to men, right?) The fact that the assumption makes no sense at all is of little consequence. Nobody but the transgender community ever thinks someone else might be trans.

Even so, I hope it doesn't lead to awkward conversations.

I think you're correct. The attracting men thing makes no sense but I could see it being thought anyway as I have come out to family in the past as being gay. I spent a lot of time tying various issues to sexuality and related things so it's going to be complicated when it's time to come out as transgender even though the situations are completely different. I think some of my family has a hard time viewing gender or sexuality as things that can be fluid for some.

I feel like most of the awkward conversations will come later at this point.
 
I am aware of the rules, but I am also getting tired of how this particular community seems to lose its more prominent members.

I should say more, though. Forgive me for not being a great contributor here, especially of late.
 
What happened to BETH!!?
I am aware of the rules, but I am also getting tired of how this particular community seems to lose its more prominent members.

I should say more, though. Forgive me for not being a great contributor here, especially of late.

Nothing happened to Beth.

She talked to me privately and she has decided that she needs some time off for herself in order to focus of a few things in her life she wants to take care of. She will be back in a couple of months, hopefully after finding what she is looking for and accomplishing all her goals :)


Again, this was a self imposed break and she is sorry she worried people but this is what she wants and what she feels she needs right now.

Let's just all collectively hope she finds what she is seeking :)
 
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