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True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO
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Chance Hale
Member
Let's just hope it doesn't open with Laura and her brother fucking.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
I actually thought the bit where Errol's seamlessly switching accents was great. I found it very creepy. Then the incest happened. So that was weird.
But I did like the twist that basically everyone involved with the cult was probably long-dead and that Errol and his... aunt-sister(?) was the twisted remnant of all that horror.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Yep, so true. I think it will go that way after Season 3. I don't see why HBO wouldn't want to move forward beyond Pizzolatto's involvement next year.
I look at True Detective and Game of Thrones as some of the tent poles of modern HBO. And honestly, how expensive can the show be? Anthology based, so they don't have to worry about the actors' salary ballooning from season to season. And they basically have actors coming to them looking for a career boost.
omg season 2 is the hotline miami 2 of videogames
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
So, Nails is the only loyal guy that Frank has?
So, Frank, Nails, Birdman, Antigone, Ray, Jordan vs the Forces of Evil.
I'm still laughing at "Half anaconda, half great white"
So, Frank, Nails, Birdman, Antigone, Ray, Jordan vs the Forces of Evil.
I'm still laughing at "Half anaconda, half great white"
Just finished the episode and I have to say the Woodrugh final scene was very poorly done.
I mean the guy runs down an abandoned train station, climbs up one of the likely many ladders leading to one of the many stations with likely more then one exit and it just so happens a guy was expecting it all along and is hiding behind the door with a getaway car right there? That and Woodrugh, who has shown himself to be methodical and calculating in tense situations just conveniently lets up.
That was just a poorly directed scene and really took me out of an otherwise decent episode considering the season.
I mean the guy runs down an abandoned train station, climbs up one of the likely many ladders leading to one of the many stations with likely more then one exit and it just so happens a guy was expecting it all along and is hiding behind the door with a getaway car right there? That and Woodrugh, who has shown himself to be methodical and calculating in tense situations just conveniently lets up.
That was just a poorly directed scene and really took me out of an otherwise decent episode considering the season.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
All the better to screw himself with lol
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Wish I was Ray Velcoro in that last scene there.
bobbyrawlins
Banned
Who the fuck were those people and their black leader dude hanging out in underground tunnels? The show has probably told me, but I can't follow half the shit going on this season.
Just got caught up with the episode and that is exactly what I came here to post about. It was like something out of a cartoon. Was there a shady dude, with included getaway car, standing behind every single door in a 3-4 block radius? This show is dumb.
StopMakingSense
Member
On the subject of the Woodrough scene, there are no abandoned subway tunnels in Downtown LA as shown. (there is one abandoned station, and it certainly isn't as clean as this one was, there are no "tunnels running all through the city")
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
StopMakingSense
Member
That scene took place in Downtown.
There certainly are no subway tunnels running through Vernon (the city Vinci is very clearly and unabashedly standing in for). A lot of the things they talk about - Vinci having only 80 official residents etc, super skeezy politically, being a 100% industrial city, etc, apply to Vernon as well.
Also, Vinci/Vernon is adjacent to Downtown LA. In many cases, scenes, like the shootout, were actually in regular LA, as opposed to Vinci/Vernon.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
That scene was in Downtown.
There certainly are no subway tunnels running through Vernon (the city Vinci is very clearly and unabashedly standing in for). A lot of the things they talk about - Vinci having only 80 official residents etc, being a 100% industrial city, etc, apply to Vernon as well.
Also, Vinci/Vernon is adjacent to Downtown LA. In many cases, scenes, like the shootout, were actually in regular LA, as opposed to Vinci/Vernon.
My bad. I assumed that last scene took place in Vinci since Burris and the Chief were there.
StopMakingSense
Member
That was at the Hall of Records (both the scene and the filming location) The LA Times building is prominent in the background. Unless the scene is in an industrial shithole, Frank's clubs, or the Mayor's office, the scene is not taking place in Vinci.
Also here's a map that shows Vernon's location wrt Downtown LA.
I know it's not going to happen, but I hope Ani and Velcoro just say fuck it after they find out about Woodrugh and team up with Semyon for his murder spree. There's no way they're ever getting out of the country, there's no way any of these people ever end up charged (it'd be like... the FBI swooping in at the end of Clue, which was fantastic for that but not this), there's no way they make it to trial if that does happen, etc.
Just let them all die from generic cops after they take out the assholes. No more writing necessary. I literally couldn't care less about Birdman, the hard drive, or anything else. We know who the bad people are, just let us get a TD Hardhome to set everything right.
Just let them all die from generic cops after they take out the assholes. No more writing necessary. I literally couldn't care less about Birdman, the hard drive, or anything else. We know who the bad people are, just let us get a TD Hardhome to set everything right.
Well, actually, the other option would be True Detective on odd years to give Pizzolatto more time to write. They might just stick with bandying the "single auteur" approach to True Detective and just lick their wounds and scrutinize the production process more.
It's the Black Mountain dudes, but they rebranded (Atlas or something). Basically a PMC hired by one of the companies that was working with the Vinci mayor, chief of police, etc. to ruin the rail corridor land to buy for cheap. They were blackmailing Paul for information about the investigation that the state had on them.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
I can't stand this thread anymore
bobbyrawlins
Banned
Thanks, that is a lot clearer now. I must have missed a whole conversation somewhere.
LyleLanley
Banned
We get the thread we deserve.
For sure ~ Posters all over 'em with posts all over 'em.
Fixed.
More Fun To Compute
Member
Sometimes to stand a thread you just have to sit down.
Seems like the audience, and contestants haven't watched the show, which made the Lera Lynn and Birdman homages awkward with no audience laughing.
Discotheque
Banned
dare I say Frank's scenes were the most interesting this episode. A real shame that they finally give vaughn some fun stuff to work with just as the show is about to end.
If this were a better show Paul's death would have been a big shock, all I feel is indifference though.
If this were a better show Paul's death would have been a big shock, all I feel is indifference though.
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
The last two episodes have been better. I do feel that the episode with the street shootout was a real lowpoint. At least this episode had decent action even though there are still rough spots in the narrative. Its not the most polished show, but for some reason I still check it out, I guess thats something.
He welcomes judgement, after all.
Admiral Woofington
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I had a giggle m8
Not completely accurate. The black guy was Police Chief Holloway. The rest of the guys were the erstwhile Black Mountain guys who are not re-branded and working exclusively for Catalyst, the Jacob McCandless company.
Robot Pants
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I agree with this post.
Anton Sugar
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lololol
dead souls
Member
They weren't just any diamonds, they're special blue diamonds.
Wait a second, maybe they're chaos emeralds.
Wait a second, maybe they're chaos emeralds.
SSPssp
Member
Yeah, the money isn't nearly enough. I guess they provided other "services" to the group.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Velcro chuckled "you mean the pizza for my kid?"
DoktorEvil
Banned
Well... at least the last episode is this Sunday, so there's that...
and Girls will be coming back soon.
and Girls will be coming back soon.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
so youre planning on going from one hatewatch to another?
I don't really think it's an organization or full-fledged conspiracy so much as it is a bunch of associated people. They're just a bunch of criminals running an F-tier dump of a town, and being in bed together provides all of them certain opportunities as word gets around town. Once the criminal cops heard their buddies were pulling a land deal scam, they took their of diamonds (which they apparently couldn't turn liquid, probably due to their rarity and robbery association) and decided to buy in to trade them for cheap land.
I think it's just about connections and money. There isn't really an illuminati style conspiracy going on here. Caspere had money and connections, which he was using to make people richer, like with this land deal. This also gave him access to a more exclusive world which pandered to his fetishes. Just because he was in the same parties as much more powerful and richer people didn't mean that he was on the same level as them. They were just enjoying the same recreational benefits in their private time. The bar for access doesn't really seem -that- high here, consider all it took was Ani's sister making some calls to get her into such a party.
I actually like the way the characters talk, but it really feels like most of those lines are actually meant for Rust from season 1. It feels like Nic noticed that many people like Rust, so he wrote every main character to be a bit like Rust. But instead of having one guy being a weirdo and the people around him acknowledging it, you just have 4 weirdos.
DoktorEvil
Banned
Hatewatching Girls is more entertaining than this pseudo-serious police drama.
At least it'll end with a big shootout.
If only there were 2 plane tickets to Venezuela floating around that were specifically purchased in such a way that the names on the tickets could be changed at any time
Doesn't address the wanted/passport issue, but that whole travel agent scene really seemed to aggressively over-emphasis the whole "YOU CAN CHANGE THE NAMES ON THESE TICKETS" thing. I am guessing their swerve is VV gets killed, gives the tickets to Velcoro, widow ends up working at Applebee's.
lastflowers
Banned
:lol
That's because they aren't the L.A. Illuminati.
The diamonds and money and connections acquired in L.A. allowed them to leave L.A., where they were basically nobodies, and build up their Vinci empire.
The county was untapped, so they tapped it.
Can we get one of those gifted plumbers to unclog this cess-toilet of a television season?