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True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO

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He's so troubled
 

Gattsu25

Banned
No more brooding synths, instead we get horns straight out of Dragnet.

I'll have to sleep on this one...I'll give the season up until episode 3.
 
I have to admit, I do have a soft spot in my heart for Kitsch. He'll always be that lovable "Texas Forever" FNL goon to me.

But, I do wonder what goes on inside his head. I always just assume he has the mental capacity of a grapefruit.
 

Altazor

Member
There was little coherency in transitions or themes and some of the jumps felt completely unnecessary like McAdam's in the car with the partner and he mentions her dad. Scene was totally useless.

I felt that scene was a bit of a "take that" against the viewers - it misleads you, making you believe Ani and Elvis are going to share one of those Rust and Marty meaningful-conversations-in-the-car... but nope. She's not going to talk about her family at all. Deal with it.

how was it guys? did the original main characters make a cameo? is the case even connected to the 1st season? didn't watch any trailers

Completely unrelated cases and characters.
 

120v

Member
i liked it... episode was all over the place but it was the first, and it's a more ensemble cast, so i'll give it a pass. trying hard not to compare it to the first season too much but i expected the same kind of death-trip atmosphere... maybe it creeps up as the season progresses

either way i'm down for the ride.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Need some help here. Did Colin hire Vince to off the dude who raped his wife? Is that the beginning of his downslide into corruption?

No, Vince's character, Frank, gave Farell's character, Ray, the info about who raped his wife. Frank did it so Ray would be in his debt, one that he called on to beat the shit out of the journalist.
 

duckroll

Member
Vince Vaughn's wife in the show was probably my favorite character.

I felt that scene was a bit of a "take that" against the viewers - it misleads you, making you believe Ani and Elvis are going to share one of those Rust and Marty meaningful-conversations-in-the-car... but nope. She's not going to talk about her family at all. Deal with it.

That doesn't make sense though. Why would anyone even expect that. Her partner is hardly a character at all. I think that's the main thing about the first episode - it's really clear who the A characters are and who the WhoGivesAFuck sideline characters who happen to be paired up with the A characters are. That makes it less interesting to sit through knowing that it's one long "origin story" leading to how the characters meet and get paired up properly.
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
i liked it... episode was all over the place but it was the first, and it's a more ensemble cast, so i'll give it a pass. trying hard not to compare it to the first season too much but i expected the same kind of death-trip atmosphere... maybe it creeps up as the season progresses

either way i'm down for the ride.

It supposedly does.
 
Please no. This shit is already super coincidental with Ani randomly stumbling upon a missing girl case that leads to her dad.

I actually thought the same thing, but I certainly hope it's not the case. I'm expecting a more nefarious outcome with that one.
 

squadr0n

Member
Totally thought this wasn't coming till winter, I was completely surprised when my dvr popped up to let me know it was about to record.

As someone who hates Collin Farrell with a passion and loved the first season, am I going to hate this season? I haven't watched the episode yet so I'm not sure how much they will use him. Who knows, this could be his Pulp Fiction.
 

duckroll

Member
Please no. This shit is already super coincidental with Ani randomly stumbling upon a missing girl case that leads to her dad.

Remember the lawnmower man in season 1?!?!?

And finding her sister at the cam-girl house.

That wasn't a coincidence. She deliberately made the bust based on a tip off that her sister was there. She wasn't actually there to enforce the law.
 

Altazor

Member
That doesn't make sense though. Why would anyone even expect that. Her partner is hardly a character at all. I think that's the main thing about the first episode - it's really clear who the A characters are and who the WhoGivesAFuck sideline characters who happen to be paired up with the A characters are. That makes it less interesting to sit through knowing that it's one long "origin story" leading to how the characters meet and get paired up properly.

Oh, I agree. It just felt that way to me - even if it doesn't make sense, it comes from the same guy who apparently thought of having a dig at Cary Fukunaga in a later episode :p
 
Totally thought this wasn't coming till winter, I was completely surprised when my dvr popped up to let me know it was about to record.

As someone who hates Collin Farrell with a passion and loved the first season, am I going to hate this season? I haven't watched the episode yet so I'm not sure how much they will use him. Who knows, this could be his Pulp Fiction.

You didn't like him in The New World?
 

Squalor

Junior Member
Viagra guy is my fav. Freaky as fuck, but I bet hes going to do all the dirtywork for this team.
Did you not see Velcoro take a job from a career criminal to beat up a journalist, then beat up the dad of the kid who stole his "son's" LeBron sneakers?

Velcoro's middle name is "Dirty Work."
 

Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
i liked it... episode was all over the place but it was the first, and it's a more ensemble cast, so i'll give it a pass. trying hard not to compare it to the first season too much but i expected the same kind of death-trip atmosphere... maybe it creeps up as the season progresses

either way i'm down for the ride.

Same. Not sure what to make of it but I like it so far. The parts with Frank Semyon (Vince Vaugnh) kind of dragged on but its way to early to make a judgement on the characters or story.

I liked it overall, not as good as Episode 1 from Season 1 obviously but I'm going with different expectations.
 

Hatchtag

Banned
Having not seen season 1, my only thoughts watching this were "meh." Collin Farrel's scenes were good. Everyone else's were so damn boring.
 

Oscar

Member
I will grant that this was an opening episode but this episode was just completely unfocused. There was little coherency in transitions or themes and some of the jumps felt completely unnecessary like McAdam's in the car with the partner and he mentions her dad. Scene was totally useless. Felt like I was watching one of the bad Game of Thrones episodes in how the point of view just jumped all over the place.

Then some of these character backgrounds are almost too much. Farrell's character gets some brass knuckles and beats a guy up on his property after he calls the damn police station to get the address. McAdams's character has the weirdest family alive and the third cop that makes up the Justice League is on paid leave after a Hollywood Actress tries to give him a blowjob to get out a speeding ticket.

One of the reviews was right in that the dialogue felt too hammy. It was fine in S1 as Martin called Rust out on his bullshit but here people just say some of the most ridiculous shit. I mean, "Everybody gets touched". Really?

The cinematography and direction were extremely flat other than the bar sequence at the end. It felt like it was improving but yea it's not to S1 caliber.

All of that said, this was the first episode so it might come together later.
A crooked cop hit someone with brass knuckles, not really something out of character.

I'll have to rewatch, but I didn't cringe on that "nobody gets touched" line and I usually don't let cheesy lines get off easy. I think the dude was making fun of him for saying to Vaughn "you wont get touched" (you wont get in trouble).
 

Jarmel

Banned
A crooked cop hit someone with brass knuckles, not really something out of character.

The problem is that he would be identified in the same night. He identifies himself with the police force and he was likely the only one that night calling in about Aspen's house address.
 

duckroll

Member
The problem is that he would be identified in the same night. He identifies himself with the police force and he was likely the only one that night calling in about Aspen's house address.

To make it more realistic, it should have been a black family. Then no one would blink twice about a cop doing that shit.
 
The problem is that he would be identified in the same night. He identifies himself with the police force and he was likely the only one that night calling in about Aspen's house address.

Give the show some time, maybe he WILL get called out on it. I mean he put on the mask on his other dirty deed.

"it was a cop. With a god damn sexy ass moostacheeeeeeeeeee"
 

Jarmel

Banned
Give the show some time, maybe he WILL get called out on it. I mean he put on the mask on his other dirty deed.

"it was a cop. With a god damn sexy ass moostacheeeeeeeeeee"

Fair enough.

Edit: Maybe that's how the other corrupt cops force him into playing ball in fucking up the investigation.
 

golem

Member
The problem is that he would be identified in the same night. He identifies himself with the police force and he was likely the only one that night calling in about Aspen's house address.

Yup and getting beat by cops in california is pretty much like winning the lottery.

His ass would be done.
 

Altazor

Member
Ouch, Todd VanDerWerff (formerly from AV Club, now with Vox) titled his recap of the episode "the 31 most ridiculous moments of the True Detective premiere". It's exactly what it says on the tin.

True Detective's season two premiere, "The Western Book of the Dead," is a ridiculous, ridiculous episode of television.

It's so in love with its own self-seriousness that it forgets to tell a story, and by the midpoint of the episode, it had me rolling with its frequently glowering performances and pointlessly weighty dialogue. I've seen two more episodes that are both better than this one (if only marginally so), but this episode marks a new low point for the franchise. It's dumb, dumb, dumb.

But I could tell you that, over and over, for thousands of words, or I could just list the 31 most ridiculous moments of the premiere. I think I'll do that.
 

Oscar

Member
The problem is that he would be identified in the same night. He identifies himself with the police force and he was likely the only one that night calling in about Aspen's house address.
It's only been one episode, perhaps that bites him in the ass if it was outside of Vinci PD's jurisdiction (I suspect Vinci PD is crooked af as a whole).
 
good god the intro song was fucking turrible

I remember in s1e1, the hooks that were sunk into me in the final scene... similar to this episode

but good god so many fucking characters and so much nonsense try-hard bullshit :/ hopefully it picks up.
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
It's only been one episode, perhaps that bites him in the ass if it was outside of Vinci PD's jurisdiction (I suspect Vinci PD is crooked af as a whole).

This. People are jumping down the show's throat when they have no clue how things will play out.
 
The pacing was pretty poor, but overall I'm in. The episode improved in the second half, and I'm interested to see how things work with the cast together now. We'll see.
 

amnesiac

Member
I liked it! Can't really judge based on the first episode.

The NIck Cave song at the end should have been the main theme, not the Leonard Cohen one.
 
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