True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO

The English Conquistador said:
Yeah, he's pretty fantastic.

Lol this guy, such a slimeball. But I like him a lot haha.

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Great great episode with a pretty insane ending.

There's a shot I remember seeing that was Velcoro and McAdams' character with bullet proof vests on and I'm sure we haven't seen that scene yet so he's unlikely to be dead.
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This fucking guy is the epitome of every slimeball small town mayor I've ever seen, hahaha
 
To sum this episode up:

- Rachel McAdams watches her sister's porn.
- Taylor Kitsch is a closeted supergay dude with mommy issues.
- Colin Farrell continues to a super shady dude, but we kinda root for him, except for the fact that he's a horrible dad.
- Vince Vaughn also has daddy/parental issues. It's like Wilson Fisk in real life.
- The City of Vinci is the most patently corrupt institution ever, it's borderline hilarious given how the mayor was treating Rachel McAdams.
- The Staties are pulling a Departed style twist here.
- Birdman has already proven himself to be a pretty baller dude by shotgunning Ray, but obviously leaving him alive, cause why the fuck would you hire Colin Farrell only to kill him in Episode 2?
- Scarface Hottie obviously digs Ray.
- Lera Lynn is very sad.
 
NotTheGuyYouKill said:
To sum this episode up:

- Rachel McAdams watches her sister's porn.
- Taylor Kitsch is a closeted supergay dude with mommy issues.
- Colin Farrell continues to a super shady dude, but we kinda root for him, except for the fact that he's a horrible dad.
- Vince Vaughn also has daddy/parental issues. It's like Wilson Fisk in real life.
- The City of Vinci is the most patently corrupt institution ever, it's borderline hilarious given how the mayor was treating Rachel McAdams.
- The Staties are pulling a Departed style twist here.
- Birdman has already proven himself to be a pretty baller dude by shotgunning Ray, but obviously leaving him alive, cause why the fuck would you hire Colin Farrell only to kill him in Episode 2?
- Scarface Hottie obviously digs Ray.
- Lera Lynn is very sad.
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yes lol the wilson fisk comparison is the first thing that popped into my head.
 
Now I kinda want every episode to have:
1.A shot of the three detectives watching each other.
2. Vince's wife saying pseudointelectual crap
3. Sad girl singing
4. Ray drinking Modelo while Scarface hits on him.
5. Somebody saying "God Damn You, Ray"
 
Edit: already been spoiled in this thread. Thanks, guys.
 
BlackGhost said:
Are we sure she was watching her sisters porn? I can of had a different idea
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Yeah, I didn't even think her sister was involved until I read GAF. Any screencaps of her sis?

MidnightCowboy said:
It's so good. By embracing cliche, he's transcended it. He's like a parody character almost and I love him for it.
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Haha, yup. Actually really enjoyed anytime he was on-screen.

LegendofDragoonLives said:
Cliche is used when something is overused, and this plot point is the complete opposite of it. I can only recall 1 or 2 times ever seeing this on TV in the last decade or so. Tropes as a term has completely lost meaning nowadays as it's pretty much used for anything, including rare repetitive story elements or plot points with you being a good example of it.

TV tropes listing a few examples of out hundreds of millions of storylines means nothing. At this point, everything is a trope and the word itself is redundant and worthless.
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Fine, you can say that it's not common in TV--I wasn't really referring specifically to the realm of television, just in general. "Angry closeted gay homophobe" is a stereotype.

Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing--lots of great characters start as stereotypes and become something else. Rust and Marty are both stereotypes.
 
Anton Sugar said:
Yeah, I didn't even think her sister was involved until I read GAF. Any screencaps of her sis?
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Yeah the girl didn't have green hair. I just kinda figures Rachel's character was into that kinda thing. The first episode the guy made a comment about her being into some strange sex thing. In this episode she mentioned something about men being able to easily over power women, obviously that was in a Different context though.

But maybe I'm wrong
 
BlackGhost said:
Yeah the girl didn't have green hair. I just kinda figures Rachel's character was into that kinda thing. The first episode the guy made a comment about her being into some strange sex thing. In this episode she mentioned something about men being able to easily over power women, obviously that was in a Different context though.

But maybe I'm wrong
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With her penchant for knives, I feel like the guy from the first episode was alluding to some sort of knifeplay fetish.

Alternatively, maybe she has a closeted submissive side. Maybe she asked the guy to overpower her and he got weirded out because she's always so in control. Notice how the video she chooses is one of a man just ceaselessly pounding a woman from behind, that doesn't seem like something her character would be interested in unless she has desires we're unaware of.
 
Anton Sugar said:
No blood=he's alive.

Sheeeeeeeeit, even when there's a ton of blood and horrible wounds (S1 finale), people still live.

Plus, a shotgun slug could penetrate a vest, but buckshot is less likely. Also, if he wanted to kill him, why not shoot him in the head from that distance?
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Always go for center mass. No matter the weapon or distance.

Headshots are only for executions, video games and movies.
 
Scullibundo said:
Remember all those people saying that the show looked visually dull based on the teaser and wrote it off already?

This fucking forum sometimes.
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We were right. If you can't see any difference from this season and what and how Adam Arkapaw shot things last season, you don't have much of a cinematographic eye.

It's a night and day difference. Everything from length of shots to how things are lit to how they're placed in frame (in both a flat, compositional sense and a layering, depth sense) and how the camera moves (or doesn't) is all totally different.
 
Rewatching now.

Vince Vaugn's paper mache speech was good. Signals his motivation to turn good. I changed my mind about bad acting, that wasn't bad at all.
 
Very good episode. So many interesting plotlines. Murder mystery, corruption, possibly something with porn? Farrell and McAdams are amazing.
That ending was WOW. Even though i know he's most likely alive, i can't help but think what if he's not? Most likely some sort of non-lethal bullets.
 
Scullibundo said:
The fuck?

Anyway, I can't believe people think Ray could still be alive after that point-blank second shot-gun to the torso.
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I can't believe people can't see the lack of blood both times he gets shot, as well as the fact that the guy delivers the coup de grâce via the stomach instead of the head.
 
So is he dead?
Yeah I know I'm late.
He was shot with a shotgun at point blank range.

But he's Colin Farrell so they can't kill him in ep2 right?

And the head cop guy
in the preview said
"shot a cop" not "killed a cop" so...
 
I feel like this show looked at season 1 and thought, "man....people loved Rust. Let's give them Rust x3 in season 2". So far I feel like it is missing the contrast season 1 had that was Woody Harrelson. Everytime one of these characters goes into this deep fucking dark depressing tale I want someone there just to say, "What the fuck are you talking about? You're fucked up." lol.

The show needs a Hart. (pun intended)
 
The opening was hard to watch. VV can be quite cringeworthy. Good episode though.

Why is EVERYONE and EVERYTHING here sad/dark/gr1m? Plus, that ominous score too. The show gives Doom Metal a run for its money.

But seriously, who is that mayor guy? I'm dying here trying to think who the actor is and where I've seen him. Didn't want to check online, but I am giving up. Can't figure it out.
 
Every TV show I watch anymore has people complaining of "cringe." It gets old.

Not every line of dialogue can be masterfully written with some symbolic background to it (although season 1 came close).
 
ShooterMcGavin said:
Every TV show I watch anymore has people complaining of "cringe." It gets old.

Not every line of dialogue can be masterfully written with some symbolic background to it (although season 1 came close).
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It's not just about the cheesiness in the writing itself. That can be mitigated with better acting and stronger direction, which S1 had in spades and S2 has comparatively little of. Doesn't help that there are multiple directors and more main characters, of course.
 
So here's the rationale I have for predicting that McAdams's Father and the Psychiatrist are the masterminds behind all of this:

Legit Plot Reasons-

-Our first victim (missing woman) had ties to the Father's commune, our second (Caspere) was in direct and frequent contact with the Psychiatrist, who is an associate of the Father.

-The commune is totally a front for some sort of snuff/torture porn industry. They lure women in, Caspere shoots the films, then the psychiatrist's clinic uses plastic surgery to alter the women and send them on their way.

-The whole case most likely has nothing to do with Vaughn's criminal escapades, the killer's motive is revenge for the way these women are exploited. Perhaps that's why Farrell was left alive, because the killer knew that he had once killed a rapist out of a similar desire for vengeance.


Genre Trope Reasons

-Police investigate both early in the series and are left with no reason to return to either, nor do they gain any solid info from them.

-Both have direct ties to victims, but aren't treated as suspects.

-Chekhov's Gun totally applies to the plastic surgery operations being done at the Psychiatrist's office. The actual killer might have gotten surgery.

-Psychiatrists and cult leaders aren't exactly model citizens in the mystery genre.
 
Dick Justice said:
I can't believe people can't see the lack of blood both times he gets shot, as well as the fact that the guy delivers the coup de grâce via the stomach instead of the head.
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Why do people keep bringing up this no blood thing? There was never a good camera angle or close up shot that lingered on his abdomen to show us if he was bleeding or not. You realize a shot of pellet isn't going to cause an exploding fountain of blood the second it hits you, right?
 
Askherserenity said:
Has anything changed? It's still looks visually dull, especially when compared to last season. Guess this fucking forum is right sometimes.
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ThusZarathustra said:
We were right. If you can't see any difference from this season and what and how Adam Arkapaw shot things last season, you don't have much of a cinematographic eye.

It's a night and day difference. Everything from length of shots to how things are lit to how they're placed in frame (in both a flat, compositional sense and a layering, depth sense) and how the camera moves (or doesn't) is all totally different.
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Wut? This episode looked great. Y'all are crazy. Look at those screenshots.
 
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