Anyone with a brain knew he wasn't dead.
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True Detective - Season 2 - We get the Season we deserve - Sundays on HBO
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So someone tell me I'm a moron, but my read of the flashback scene involving Ray and Frank's first meeting, where he shows him a photo of the guy who fits his "wife's account" was not one of "Hey Ray, here's the dude who raped your wife. Go nuts with him." but more of "Here's the guy and it's already done."
I mean, he even says something along the lines of "Anyways, it's done..." Doesn't he?
I think that's incorrect.
Frank just said his "people know him," not "knew" him. He also wouldn't have attached the paper with the address to the photograph.
What you're remembering is that Frank said something to the effect of "I wanted to do this. And now it's done."
He meant that he wanted to give the information to Ray, help Ray out.
Alright, thanks. I guess that one line in particular messed up my understanding of what played out.
I actually think this line could have been great...if someone else was delivering it.
For example.
So good. I forgot I'm really looking forward to Better Call Saul's next season.
correct me if I'm wrong, but higher ups thought she had too many people to begin with. I remember it as them thinking she was over doing this.
Also, Ray wouldn't be in Frank's pocket had Frank/Frank's people done the work himself. We already know the would-be rapist is dead. If Ray hadn't killed him, there would be no way Frank could blackmail him, not really.
Since it's likely Ray took the information and did something with it, he is "indebted" to Frank for a bit.
I'm almost positive it was just Chessani's covering his ass.
He likely knew what was there.
after reading that i feel like i hadnt missed anything of particular importance while watching the show...
i also wouldnt really like the rust as birdman theory, seems too predictable. but then again, with the way the season is going i wouldnt be surprised lol
i was under the impression that
blake (frank's weirdo creepy henchman)
StopMakingSense
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And how they both get hit at the exact same time, multiple times by one shooter.
Wait, really? Or are you joking? I mean, shouting "We're innocent" while gunning down civilians might not be the smartest move.
I'm thinking the same thing.
Insane Metal
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I was about to abandon the ship, but decided to watch this last episode and thought it was decent. I'll see it again next week. ;P
Perspicacity
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- Do The Recurring Highway Shots From ‘True Detective’ Contain A Shocking Secret?
Pretty amazing if true
Pretty amazing if true
can't follow the simple plot or name anyone on the show but the highway is obviously a vagina. good work, internet.
can't follow the simple plot or name anyone on the show but the highway is obviously a vagina. good work, internet.
You really need to read to the end of the article. I think it makes a compelling argument.
Ghostmaster
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You guys realize the article is a joke?
I know it's a troll. maybe my post didn't come across sarcastic enough.
Cornballer
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NotTheGuyYouKill
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I'm joking. I don't speak a lick of Espagnole.
Er.
El Spanish.
Amazing. So many layers upon layers.
They just shout out generic shit, "move" "fucker", that kinda thing. The only somewhat important thing that's said is by the bald gangster who had that guy as a hostage.
"choose what's going to happen"
"choose what will happen"
"death's mother finds me"
Ghostmaster
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I don't know man there are people in this thread actively trying to make season 1 seem worse than it is in order to prop season 2. Shit's crazy.
And I don't even hate this season, it just desperately needs to be more Eyes Wide Shut and less Simcity: Crime edition.
radios shipping overview
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This show is in no way the same show as the first season, but I'm honestly digging the dive through LA's grime. It's pulpy LA noir and fairly conventional television, but with the ability to be lurid in an R-rated way. It went from off-brand Cthulhu mythos to off-brand LA Confidential/Mulholland Drive. I'm okay with this. I find Pizzaman's pretensions and Vaughn's woodenness entertaining.
And I genuinely like Velcoro/Farrell.
And I genuinely like Velcoro/Farrell.
Lost sure ruined a lot of people if they think establishing shots are coded messages meant to be played in reverse during a full moon while hopped up on bath salts.
Discotheque
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actually maybe person of interest-tier is a bit harsh, i still manage to watch this show on the night of or a day later. but really the entire season is on farrell's back (and to a lesser extent mcadams)
can't praise the directing or writing in this at all.
can't praise the directing or writing in this at all.
CopperPuppy
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Am I the only one who learned the word "louche" Sunday night?
I write for a living and Pizzolatto is upping his thesaurus game to undergraduate philosophy term paper levels of pretentious. When a character speaks, it should feel like the character is actually the one talking, not the writer.
I write for a living and Pizzolatto is upping his thesaurus game to undergraduate philosophy term paper levels of pretentious. When a character speaks, it should feel like the character is actually the one talking, not the writer.
Spoiler alert, jeez.
BlueTsunami
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With all the whsipering of a higher class hooker scene up north, I'm hoping for some Caligula level kink.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Does Frank's wife inject herself with horse tranquilizers before each scene?
She always looks like she's completely drugged out.
Her voice is so sexy though.
Grinchy
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This definitely helps, but it's surprising that even the Cliff's Notes are boring.
Freedom = $1.05
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Man, they should've found a way to stick with Lin for the whole season, or at least get one director to do the whole show. I get that Lin's schedule probably didn't allow for it but, outside of the excessive highway shots, his direction has been sorely missing the last two episodes
Anton Sugar
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Actually, Pizza said that he wrote the highway shots into the scripts/planned them in the writing from the get-go. Trying to find the source/article, I just read it this week.
Yesss, I want them all to fuck each other.
CopperPuppy
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I can't find a good summary of this theory. Anyone want to post a link?
Does Frank's wife inject herself with horse tranquilizers before each scene?
She always looks like she's completely drugged out.
She looks like that in everything
Ah thanks.
Anton Sugar
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lastflowers
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We need way more Eyes Wide Shut.
breakfuss
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Goddamn. This show sucks ass. Bottomline. Had to force myself to even watch this week's episode and sure enough my hesitation was warranted. I'm not even sure this would make a good GTA installment. Why does Vince Vaughn have to reply in short quips to EVERYTHING? Poor Tim Riggins cannot catch a break either.
And I thought my stream froze on that last shot. Shit is just mad corny LOL. Sorry I can't articulate my thoughts as well as some of you but it just is what it is. Not sure how they can salvage this but we'll see.
And I thought my stream froze on that last shot. Shit is just mad corny LOL. Sorry I can't articulate my thoughts as well as some of you but it just is what it is. Not sure how they can salvage this but we'll see.
Does Frank's wife inject herself with horse tranquilizers before each scene?
She always looks like she's completely drugged out.
Jordan's the best thing on this show for me - character and screen presence wise.
Call me crazy, but I'm enjoying it. I haven't found it particularly hard to follow. And I'm really enjoying Farrell, Vaughan and especially McAdams. Though Kitsch, not so much.
McAdams is badass, Farrell is tragically compelling, and Vaughan and his wife appear to exist in some alternative noire-style universe that is refreshingly bonkers.
Also, am I the only one who thinks that the Birdman isn't the killer? I don't see why he would be anywhere near the murder scene so long after the incident, nor why he wouldn't just kill Velcorro.
Also, the shootout and freeze-frame were awesome.
It's not a patch on the first season, granted, but there's an awful lot of hyperbole in this thread.
McAdams is badass, Farrell is tragically compelling, and Vaughan and his wife appear to exist in some alternative noire-style universe that is refreshingly bonkers.
Also, am I the only one who thinks that the Birdman isn't the killer? I don't see why he would be anywhere near the murder scene so long after the incident, nor why he wouldn't just kill Velcorro.
Also, the shootout and freeze-frame were awesome.
It's not a patch on the first season, granted, but there's an awful lot of hyperbole in this thread.
Nah man. Season 1 was fucking awesome.
I completely agree. It's nowhere near the highs of season 1 ( How many shows are?). But it's still pretty entertaining and I'm beginning to get into the whodunnit part.
talisayNon
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sick of the hyperbole too.
those 3 are so fucked.
those 3 are so fucked.