I doubt he'd even want one.
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I doubt he'd even want one.
nintendoman58
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No, we're not going to "Bank" on Trump getting s second term. Have you SEEN just how much Dems have been gaining traction in RED states lately?
God, what is it with you people. Why are you constantly, constantly trying to shove pathetic speculative doom and gloom down other people's throats?!?
It's like all manner of rational thinking in this thread has been replaced with nothing but panic.
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yeah, just saw this
Lavrov and Russian media are only sources for what was talked with Tillerson and then with Trump. They didn't let US media listen in or even take photos. There was no press briefing from Tillerson either.
Full socialist. Eh.
As long as minorities are excluded constituents would be on board.
Yep, there's also the possibility that Trump wont seek a second term simply so he can return to his cozy life that he already misses and then he doesn't have to face the reality of losing an election
Steeped in a Sea of Games
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People should be filling the streets in Washington over this, but part of the reason we're here in the first place is most are too complacent to be bothered.
Way too early to make that kind of proclamation.
I'm aware. In case it wasn't obvious, there was an implicit '/s' at the end of my post.
We've been through worse than Trump as a country, we'll make it through this one just fine as well. Well, some of us will be much worse off than before, but that's to be expected with any Republican president unfortunately.
He's not masterminding the slow dismantling of American democracy, unless you believe that the fundamental structure of American democracy has been broken for 220 years anyway.
PandaPandaPanda
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incident 9120314792104 where McCain has voiced his "disagreement" with x subject only for him to vote in favor of it shortly after
he's just as bad as the rest of them
One party and it's constituent base sees​ the opposition as an enemy, enough that they are brushing aside worries about outside Russian influence.
The country is probably in as much trouble as shortly before the civil war. It's going to get much worse if this shit isn't dealt with, and soon.
This ain't normal. Interesting times and all.
This only makes sense if you ignore where the GOP is heading, and ignore history. America never really dealt with the demons of the civil war, and we're heading back there stronger than ever.
We brushed over it with reconstruction and westward expansion. Ending Jim Crow in the 50s-60s was a violent hiccup as well, but our leaders post WWII at least had some integrity.
The Broken Ska Record
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Actually, I think several protests are planned for today.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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With everything that's happening the republicans will eventually turn on him come midterms.There's gonna be congress republicans who run on an antiTrump platform, he's just too unpopular for it not to become a thing. A second term won't happen, he's under 40% popularity already, impeachment is the question.
Dems have a Reagan lined up?
Because Trump keeps defying the odds and beating expectations, if he does win 2020 i'm not going to be astonished, just disappointed.
Eh, let's wait till the midterm elections until we start making pessimistic depressing guesses like this. If the signs of a blue wave are true and we see a large one in 2018, I really can't see how anyone can think this.
If republicans keep their power in congress intact after telling the american people that they don't give a shit about their health or lives, well add me in to the doom and gloom group.
Imperfected
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That doesn't mean the fact he was elected to begin with isn't a strong leading indicator that we're too stupid and tribal to practice effective governance as a country anymore.
TheLostBigBoss
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We are three months into Trumps presidency.
Why are you people talking about 2020
Regardless, have you people forgot he won on the slimmest of margins and lost the popular vote by a very wide margin?
Why are you people talking about 2020
Regardless, have you people forgot he won on the slimmest of margins and lost the popular vote by a very wide margin?
Fenderputty
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This isn't a reliable source. Why are people still posting this as though it was.
Ziltoidia 9
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Because it feels like 3 years.I'm numb at this point and want to just go live in a cabin and not hear anything.
He doesn't want this one, never mind a second. But he'll run anyway because if he didn't he'd be seen as a quitter, his worst fear.
Marches mean nothing. The Republican congress and senate don't care what the democrats march about and their base still loves trump. McConnell's statement today should tell you all you need to know about how pointless a march is. I think we are getting close to the point where its going to take violence to make anything change. When direct treason is being ignored and lawful investigations directly hampered by the ruling party its a very scary situation.
I mean, a lot of Republicans ran on an anti-George W. Bush platform to get seats after his disastrous presidency. Obviously this will happen here too, they'll just pretend they knew all along how terrible Trump was.
Bam Bam Baklava
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You think socialism is what would get people to turn on him? That's probably the last thing that would do it.
If you can't get people to get off their ass just to vote in a midterm, what do you think violence would accomplish?
Maybe our sons and daughters, removed from the reality of his laughable presidency, will be able to chuckle at the outlandish nature of everything that's going on. We already do so with Nixon.
I wouldn't be worried about some future where Dictator Trump is rounding up all the snowflakes and putting us to work on his golf courses though.
I haven't seen Trump THIS happy in ages.
Incredible when you compare this to his other meetings with foreign diplomats.
BlastProcessing
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This can't be right. Benji told us all that this wouldn't effect the Russia investigation at all.
Oh, he's a hypocrite. No doubt about it.
My dad is for him for many reasons.
- Trump is from New York (not even kidding; tribalism is this strong)
- Trump is there to "fix the broken system"
- Trump has no "obligation to anybody" because he's rich
He's caved a bit on Clinton because "everyone does something wrong" but the pivots he makes to Trump are hilarious. He think the AHCA is better than the ACA only because Donald Trump has said so. Despite the CBO concerns of the older bill and the concerns of the current bill, it will cover more because Trump said it would.
Speaking with people like this confirms there is only innate intelligence from nature, because anything inferential is a quaking mess.
Netherscourge
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What's to discuss?
It'll all be taken care of through laundered transactions.
How American Politics Went Insane
It happened gradually—and until the U.S. figures out how to treat the problem, it will only get worse.
This is great read fort anyone who has the time.
Aaron Strife
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Steeped in a Sea of Games
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You're right, a simple march wouldn't do a damn thing. People should be shutting down DC for weeks. This should be occupy 2.0 in scale.
Fear mongering through and through.
RustyNails
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Politico reporting Roger Stone told Trump to fire Comey recently
ResidentWeevil13
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Even if Democrats held both the house and senate, there would not be an impeachment and successful conviction without anything concrete. And there is nothing concrete yet.
The legal battle over the definition of emoluments is a promising pathway, but it's also uncharted waters and could be rendered irrelevant if Congress formally approves The Trump Business's foreign profits.
Thanks for all the great evidence you provided that there is indeed enough evidence to impeach and successfully convict Trump /s
No kidding. Trump says or does something idiotic every day and it feels like such a long time already.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Republicans are gonna be running on anti Trump durring his first term. That didn't happen to W.
Pilgrimzero
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I'll say it again, Trump may be King for a day, but will be a villian for all of history. That's the legacy he will have.
shawnbuddy
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Well, Trump fired the head of the agency investigating his Russia ties and is in the White House with the Russians right now. Is it time to freak out yet?
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/862326950400069632
https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/862326950400069632
We have a military that's filled with bigots, racists, misogynists, and people who support guns over human lives. Of fucking course they were going to support Trump
benjipwns
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And when I think "bastion of good ideas and totally not a racist frat boy stuck in an 80-year-old body," I think Roger Stone
The fundamental structure of American democracy has been in a slow stage of dismantlement for about 200 years due to minor changes constantly being made in election rules and removal of many firewalls. Quite a few of the removals are very legitimate such as opening up the vote to more people but no new firewalls were put up in place and there were many more that were removed that didn't necessarily have any reason to remove other than to increase partisanship power. Someone is just finally really taking advantage of it now and showing how weak the system of checks and balances has actually become. Its not like it became this weak just because of Trump, it has been this way for a while, its just no one ever felt like challenging it till now so no one outside of political historians really saw this coming. (I was in a class when in college in 2000 about American political history and we talked about this sort of thing, we knew back than it was easier than ever to challenge the existing status quo if you had the balls and political will to try) Just because no one has done what Trump has already done did not mean it was not something that could of been done back then. Also 2010 basically made it politically feasible for it to actually be tried once the republican party got all 3 branches which has now happened.
EDIT: If you ask me, I think its fortunate that this is all coming to light now rather than a few more years down the road like after 2020 where if republicans had played it right they could of ensured a cementing of their power even further following the next census. I think a few more changes and removals of a few last wall were still needed for the republic to truly be in danger. As it is now, its only 50/50 if that. There are still too many moderates in govt in the legislature and judicial that can see this for what it is and will cause roadblocks giving the opposition enough time to raise the alarm and hopefully candidates.
https://twitter.com/joshgerstein/status/862335886398296064
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WaPo
https://twitter.com/ashleyrparker/status/862332436692295682
NBC
https://twitter.com/kendilaniannbc/status/862337590929870848
and the initial NYT story all confirming on their own. Why deny?
So denying now?
Vs.
WaPo
https://twitter.com/ashleyrparker/status/862332436692295682
NBC
https://twitter.com/kendilaniannbc/status/862337590929870848
and the initial NYT story all confirming on their own. Why deny?
AlimNassor
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"This is it! The final thing that will no doubt sink Donald Trump!"
We can not let him win a second. We have to win but, if he does we have to plan for the future instead of running around with our heads cut off. We've too much at stake not to prep. We have to get people to fight from the ground up.
And what signs are there that aren't just wishful thinking? Carter wasn't beloved and was going up against Reagan. We need someone that can capture the hearts of voters like Obama did. We need someone that will inspire voters to get out and vote.
The Republicans are already planning for the future. A Republican controlled Government is a very scary thing.
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