Oh for sure. But we're seeing the result of those 8 years (longer than 8 years, really) come to fruition right now. Next one might be someone more "qualified" than Trump.
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Oh for sure. But we're seeing the result of those 8 years (longer than 8 years, really) come to fruition right now. Next one might be someone more "qualified" than Trump.
This right here. I don't care so much that the party doesn't openly admit they are racists, it's the policies and the taking points of the party that ultimately means the exact same thing. This way they just get to fool people that don't know any better or those that can vote for just less taxes as long as it's not out right said.
Lmao. What's he gonna use? Russian intelligence?
It's going to be even worse when Trump launches the Trump News Network with all of his carnival of jokers as hosts and commentators, so that they can all keep the movement going / make Trump money.
Sir Abacus
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Ghostbusters. But the guy ones. Not the new girl ones.
He'll have the best people. You've never even heard of them.
Mr. Giggles
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GAF will never be the same
clevbrowns94
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All star team right there. Now, why in the world is Trump struggling with women?
clevbrowns94
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I read some comments on Breitbart this morning. It was all delusion and denial. Rigged polls, liberal pollsters, Trump has bigger crowds, Trump landslide coming, etc.
Breitbart is the toilet of the Internet, so fitting that Trump's toilet campaign taps a Breitbart guy.
Breitbart is the toilet of the Internet, so fitting that Trump's toilet campaign taps a Breitbart guy.
Every June and October, for at least the next 20 years, we'll get reminders of how pivotal this election was. Rulings will be handed-down that favor progressivism. A progressively-tilted court will get the last word on almost anything controversial that reaches them.
That's huge.
And I'd guess that this 20-year figure is modest, to be honest. Justices are a lot more careful about retiring in this era since they want to be replaced by someone with similar legal philosophy. Now that the nominating process is politically polarized, we're going to see more caution and calculation on their parts (for better or worse) when weighing retirement timing. It'll take a Scalia-style death of a liberal or a string of GOP presidential victories for them to wrest control back.
Himself. He is the best adviser.
LegendofJoe
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Speaking of the Supreme Court who do you guys think will be nominated to replace RBG? Those are some mighty big shoes to fill.
Palette Swap
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He's this close to his moment of clarity. Still, it's a nice expose of that alternate reality bubble they've created and polished for decades.Charlie Sykesm a conservative Never Trump radio host/pundit, had this to say to Oliver Darcy.
Unfortunately for Sykes and America there is no going back.
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https://twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/761020253136715776/
Can't wait for the Breitbart campaign to really get rolling.
Can't wait for the Breitbart campaign to really get rolling.
Here was a pretty good article talking about each candidate's potential nominees:
http://abovethelaw.com/2016/08/hillary-clintons-supreme-court-shortlist-11-scotus-possibilities/
I always seem Goodwin Liu used as a judicial boogeyman on conservative websites. Most of those picks will be just as liberal as Ginsburg; the big lurch leftward will come when she picks one of them to replace Scalia (assuming that Obama doesn't get Garland through). And if Kennedy steps down (he turned 80 a month ago), the lurch goes even further.
PlayALLtheGames
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Bannon should show Trump that new, unbiased Breitbart/Gravis poll to lift Trump's spirit a bit.
Oh wait
Oh wait
OrbitalBeard
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You just described Rush Limbaugh's dream scenario.
BlastProcessing
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He hired Milo's boss. He skipped the lackey and went straight to the source!
LegendofJoe
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Awesome, thanks.
Charlie Sykesm a conservative Never Trump radio host/pundit, had this to say to Oliver Darcy.
Unfortunately for Sykes and America there is no going back.
What a reoccurring theme if the 1960s. Seriously they have lost their shit since they were forced to have to treat people fairly with the civil rights act and have been doing everything to undermine it ever since.
I don't know what it is about Liu that so particularly terrifies conservatives, but my fantasy scenario is that Dems retake the Senate, Obama withdraws Garland before he can be approved in the lame duck, and Hillary nominates Liu just to punish Republicans for the shit they pulled with Garland.
Never underestimate an individual willing to invoke scorched Earth as a viable campaign policy. It can be very effective. I am uniquely scared.
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Saint Gregory
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Scorched Earth works so much better if you're not currently on fire yourself.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
This gif sums up the situation so perfectly. Ride the craziness till the wheels come off the cart.
At this point, a scorched earth Trump campaign will just harm down-ticket races even more.
I would rather run ragged and scared then assume that this type of approach can only force his numbers down. They are going to try to smear the hell out of Clinton in ways that have no sense in reality. These individuals don't believe in fact checking or integrity; they believe that the ends justify the means. They will try to make the election so unpalatable that it may suppress voter numbers from the middle.
If he is on fire himself, what is to stop him from running into an oil gig and setting the ocean ablaze?
As a minority, I have plenty to lose come this election. He's not taking the shirt off of my back. I refuse to become complacent. I'll be watching these developments very cautiously and carefully.
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The last couple months were the pivot.
andythinkpad
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I brought some Hillary winning landslide (>370) shares on predictit. I don't think this clown train is slowing down.
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Will it? I'm not entirely convinced. It could, truly. But with that kind of strategy, it could spoil the mood from individuals who stand in the middle of the political spectrum from voting. In areas that are clearly red, they have less of a chance of overturning down-ticket candidates. At this point, whoever is still willing to commit to a Trump vote will remain committed. That also means they will vote a straight ticket come fall. There may be changes in individual politics but they will still have an R next to their name.
Of course, this is simplifying a lot of things above without regard to individual state politics, demographics, and base. I'm just saying it is very possible the tactic could work favorably.
WeAreStarStuff
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What does it say about someone that would surround themselves with such a toxic collection of people...
After sleeping on it a bit I now think this is a political death wish route.
A literal double or nothing.
He is going to go all out with his abhorrent bullshit so that whatever happens he will go out on his, as others have said, own terms.
Box of Kittens
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So we get Manafort to stay on (letting all the Russian stuff stick to the campaign) while being marginalized to the extent that he won't be able to do any good. I'm beginning to think there's something to that whole "this is karma for what Hillary has had to endure for the last 25 years" thing.
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All I'm saying is that Scorched Earth requires some level of legitimacy from the scorcher, which Trump now has none. He's squandered any credibility he had with rational voters months ago. Hillary may be ripe for scorching but Trump has turned himself into such a non-starter for most of the electorate that even destroying Clinton politically will just lead to a 3rd party winning the presidency at this point.
If they have any sense they'll let garland through before November.
I'd be perfectly content with Garland, but I can't deny that the vengeful side of me would love to hear them wail in agony if this ever happened. 😂
PlayALLtheGames
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Exactly.
Lord Frieza
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I mean, what exactly are you scared of? This is basically been his campaign strategy since the general election, and it's shown no signs of working at all. What's going to magically make it work now?
DontBeThatGuy
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How much more right-wing is he gonna get?
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What's hilarious is that he says he's been holding back trying to be politically correct. Let him double down on his primary strategy. It won't work.
I am scared of complacency. I am scared of the voters, which there are plenty, who would state, "They are both crap, fuck it, I'm staying home". Or worse, "Clinton has got it, I'll stay home, no need to vote". I've seen it in real life and I've seen it here on GAF. It's a very bad attitude. Suppress from the middle strong enough to where the crazies stand a (albeit small) chance of actually winning.
I'm not saying Trump is going to win or anything. The EC gives me great confidence and I only have to look at the map to bring myself to ease. But to deny he has a chance with that strategy? Going full out crazy? It could actually work.
Yeah but if they had any sense they would have realized that already. I'm pretty sure they wait until November. I just don't know if Obama is devious enough to stop them from doing it in November. Or if Hillary terribly wants to pick a fight around this right out of the gate, when Garland is perfectly acceptable. But it feels like Obama and Hillary have to screw them over here, or else it'll be pretty clear that refusing to look at the nomination was the tactically correct decision for the GOP. They rolled the dice to try and get their man picked, lost, but still get the nice compromise they were offered at the start.
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Charlie Sykesm a conservative Never Trump radio host/pundit, had this to say to Oliver Darcy.
Unfortunately for Sykes and America there is no going back.
That's why it's important to draw the line at reinterpretation of facts vs misrepresentation of facts when making an editorial program. Putting a conservative or liberal spin on a story is not the same as fabricating a story from the dark corners of the Internet, or pretending that something documented didn't happen because it's inconvenient for your narrative.
I think we've all lost the way when someone cites Donald "I was being sarcastic" Trump's twitter as a credible source over the NY Times or the Washington post.
Complacency is more of a problem on the side that feels it's going to get slaughtered than on the side that's going to win big. "Trump's going to get beat, I'll stay home, no need to vote" is more likely.
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So is this Trump realizing he can't win at this point and deciding to spend the rest of the campaign building a movement/audience/message for his post-election far-right media venture?
I'm sorry, I don't agree with that. I see more of a, "Trump needs my support now more than ever and I need to vote to stand up for what I believe in". I'm just saying, don't dismiss complacency. Democrats have a long history of having a win snatched from the jaws of victory.
I get where you are coming from and I agree for the most part. But I'm looking at the side of the irrational and/or uninformed voter, which makes a significant enough base to swing things. He is going to make things very ugly, and it has a possibility of working. The informed voters, the liberal base, and those moderates leaning left are locked and secured. It's the other middle, the other half of the spectrum that could make things closer than I would have ever liked.
His chance of getting through the election and winning are slim. But the fact of the matter is that the chance still exists and is significant enough to ponder a, "I wonder?".
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