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Truth & Trolls |OT| The Brothers Were Right
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foobarry81
Member
polyh3dron
Banned
You forgot Susan's stream of consciousness. ;-)
I was unable to intuit or channel what Susan was thinking at that moment due to my highly limited entrepreneurial abilities.
foobarry81
Member
Yet you've been predicting her every move up until now... ;-) You're way too modest about your entrepreneurial abilities, buddy.
Your Kickstarter dollars at work.
Yet you've been predicting her every move up until now... ;-) You're way too modest about your entrepreneurial abilities, buddy.
Thank you for the compliment. You are a true believer in Susan's cause.
#FundHer
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Seriously, this is fucked up beyond all recognition. Either this is the work of a 9 year old with little knowledge or skill, in her free time, using free tools, in which case $24k was used on nothing, or the money was used to pay others to create the parts of the project Kenzie wasn't able to create on her own, in which case it's fraud.
Though what it appears to be is a project made by others based on a design by a nine year old, made to look like it was created entirely by a nine year old, which makes it lazy fraud.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
So, it sounds like Avellone was the only one on the Kickstarter panel not bitching about Kickstarter.
Instead, you know, actually trying to talk about the process.
Instead, you know, actually trying to talk about the process.
foobarry81
Member
The others are just a bunch of amateurs too. Like the guy from Cards Against Humanity... how can you not know beforehand what your physical rewards are going to cost you? Seriously, that's just being lazy. Spend a mere 5 minutes of your busy life at the post office and you'll know.
And if Brenda Romero doesn't like 1-dollar-complainers, maybe she should try to land a deal with a publisher about her questionable game ideas instead. They will never bitch about it, I'm sure.
And Susan is just shameless, but we already knew that.
Yea, it's like the website that had poorly defined terms of service then later abandoned it's few principles of crowdfunding was still a disservice to Susan because she only got $25k and was asked all kinds of mean questions like, "What are you doing with that money?"
Dead Prince
Banned
lol.
foobarry81
Member
So Susan's husband produced this thing that tries very hard to resemble a 9yo old's first game. How lovely.
I guess we now know the "mystery person who's afraid to come forward", who Susan paid $12K for 'assisting Kenzie'.
Dead Prince
Banned
Susan @fundher just followed me on twitter. haha.
don't what what i should to do with that.
don't what what i should to do with that.
Were you trolling her with that above tweet?
Dead Prince
Banned
to her it's not and yes thats why she followed me.
foobarry81
Member
You shouldn't do anything with that. She's now officially your friend.
Or maybe she just registered dmprince.com and will try to sell it to you sooner or later. Or reward you for your loyalty with a discount on a Keep Up! T-shirt. ;-)
Edit: were you following her first, btw? Because some people just follow you, in the hopes that you'd follow them, in order to boost their number of followers.
Dead Prince
Banned
she really can't do anything with dmprince. name is so badly soiled. all it'll do is mess up her reputation ;P
EDIT: no. never followed her lol. and won't. but if i do she might DM me. decision decision.
also tempted to post Message RPG maker FB page and give them the beta link.
foobarry81
Member
Might also be she just thinks you're hot. Who knows? ;-)
Why would you want to link the beta to RPGMaker?
Dead Prince
Banned
allow them to see the program be put to good use and how far along she's come since the last comment about her during the KS project. but i won't. just going to advertise the game out.
If you wouldn't mind playing a little game, I'd suggest saying something on twitter along the lines of:
I'm curious if you receive any messages shortly after.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
It's depressing how many people on Kickstarter earnestly express that they never thought about how much rewards would actually cost to be made.
It's seriously fucking depressing. It's a parade that never stops.
We get some hilarious updates out of it, though.
foobarry81
Member
I lol'ed!
Well, that's understandable in some cases, there's a lot of hobbyists out there who have no clue what they're getting into. But I still think it's just lazy.
And in Susan's case, she's just lying about all of it.
foobarry81
Member
Some troll pestering Susan on Twitter. (I kid. ;-))
Sadly she asks the wrong question. Should've asked: "How much did you need @ 10 yrs old to make, test, revise & launch ur 1st game?"
Sadly she asks the wrong question. Should've asked: "How much did you need @ 10 yrs old to make, test, revise & launch ur 1st game?"
foobarry81
Member
Same here. I don't know whether it's a Kickstarter fatigue that's kicked in already, but I was selective already and haven't felt compelled to back anymore projects since, although I did find the Inafune one pretty interesting for example.
And likewise don't know if it's specifically this train wreck that soured me on KS.
I doubt I'll ever back anything that involves any kind of software again. I'm still going to "donate" towards things like documentaries and perhaps the occasional thing I'm heavily invested in (like Pinball Arcade licensed tables) but that'd be it. Too much has happened to things I've backed in the past (Carmageddon getting a massive backing from an investor well after the KS ended, Double Fine running over time and budget etc.) to feel confident about anything again. It's easier to wait for the thing to get released and buy it (hell, the DLC you miss out on you could probably buy with the interest saved from backing in the first place) and if it doesn't get made, so be it.
Some troll pestering Susan on Twitter. (I kid. ;-))
Sadly she asks the wrong question. Should've asked: "How much did you need @ 10 yrs old to make, test, revise & launch ur 1st game?"
I believe I was seven. I used GAC on the Spectrum. And it was an awful thing where the PC wandered through a zoo.
Took me a weekend and then I lost the tape.
It is easier, yes, but it's... sort of the reason I like Kickstarter, because kickstarters aren't constrained by the need to ultimately be profit-making, which I think is too restrictive in the grander scheme of things. Hence my willingness to take on a proportionate quantity of risk.
Is this the first ever game that takes twice as long to download than it does to play?
foobarry81
Member
Well ofcourse, sadly (because there's so much easy money involved) more and more people like Susan, who are only interested in said profit-making, have jumped in.
foobarry81
Member
foobarry81
Member
I realize it's confusing, but this is actually a 43yo 10 year old girl. She might even be 44 by now.
I know, been following this stuff from the very beginning. Boycotted Kickstarter until Cosmic Star Heroine project launched as well because of this.
I love how there's absolutely no way that sounds like a 9-year-old wrote that. At all. Or even dictated it with some creative license from the person typing it.
Shameful.
Crash55118
Member
The Art Factory Comment is the most insane/greatest thing ever. This is the project that keeps on giving.
Is someone here actually TAF and running the long con?
Is someone here actually TAF and running the long con?
Has to be a novelty account. Nobody is that stupid...right? Right?
The look on Avellone's face says it all.
Oh Chris, never change... too bad he didn't speak up during the panel against Susan, he's a classy guy though who would never shame a 9 year old girl (integrity her mother doesn't have). It's not like Romero or Wilson badmouthing Avellone would be a big story though, he's respected all over the industry.
They just pulled two straight all-nighters playing through Truth & Trolls.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Don't you guys think this is the wrong thing about this whole ordeal to get worked up about? Even with all the money, a 9 year old is still going to make an uninformed game no matter how much you toss at the project.
Eh, it's not specifically this project that's been the straw that broke the camel's back, it's just been the wake-up call to be a little more wary on future KS projects (and reflect on some in the past that I should/not have backed.