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TV Shows that people went crazy over, but in retrospect were kinda dumb or bad

Imbarkus

As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Seinfeld

fuck Seinfeld


This.

As someone who started to watch it recently, the show is terrible with barely any humor.

I realize the motion has already been seconded and carried but I'd nonetheless like to add my "aye."

Seinfeld is classic.

God dammit people.

I hated it back then, at the time. Intensely. It was like a shithole you had to walk through to get to Night Court and ER.

I tuned in for the finale and was utterly shocked to find myself feeling vindicated.

People would repeat the unfunny pseudo-phrases from that week's episode in the office that week, back then, and they were insufferable. This actually happened with The Office, too, but I forgave it because The Office was actually good and funny.
 

DOWN

Banned
This seems like a list of everything good tbh. Some of the answers are legit poorly received overall after a good debut, but many answers here were still loved after ending.

Also LOST was worth the ride despite the lack of planning it suffered
 

HariKari

Member
S7 of GoT on the other hand feels like a really, really dumb fantasy show right now. The earlier seasons draw you in with intriguing political sheming and backstabbing, then that sort of goes away and you keep watching for the buddy road trips and character moments, and now they rush towards the conclusion of the show and everything comes across as either unintentionally hilarious or cringe-inducing. Sure, I still watch it because I want to see how it ends after all those years, but I don't feel good about it

More people will come around to this once it's over and some time has passed. Hopefully the spinoffs are stronger.
 

Jigorath

Banned
Yeah I'm just gonna go ahead and ignore the fact that Sopranos was in the OP for some reason.

Anyways, West Wing gets my vote.
 

Orb

Member

This.

As someone who started to watch it recently, the show is terrible with barely any humor.

I realize the motion has already been seconded and carried but I'd nonetheless like to add my "aye."



I hated it back then, at the time. Intensely. It was like a shithole you had to walk through to get to Night Court and ER.

I tuned in for the finale and was utterly shocked to find myself feeling vindicated.

People would repeat the unfunny pseudo-phrases from that week's episode in the office that week, back then, and they were insufferable. This actually happened with The Office, too, but I forgave it because The Office was actually good and funny.

It's really good to know I'm not alone lol
 

Calcaneus

Member
Dexter was pretty cheesy at the time as well, but it was also part of its charm. I never watched past Season 4 so I never got to see it go bad.

I wonder how the first few seasons of Scrubs hold up. I really liked it but I can see it qualifying for a lot of reasons.
 
Lol people are pretty much naming every show. Luckily I didn't see a Wire mention so I don't have to lose it

I'll say in retrospect weeds was always shit and just got worse
 

aravuus

Member
Sherlock S1&2 are still amazing. It's a highly competent show with some outstanding writing, cinematography, editing and acting talent. It's one of the poster childs of modern TV shows. No other show comes close to being as slick as Sherlock. Moffat & co-writers are soley responsible for the show's downfall in the later seasons

S7 of GoT on the other hand feels like a really, really dumb fantasy show right now. The earlier seasons draw you in with intriguing political sheming and backstabbing, then that sort of goes away and you keep watching for the buddy road trips and character moments, and now they rush towards the conclusion of the show and everything comes across as either unintentionally hilarious or cringe-inducing. Sure, I still watch it because I want to see how it ends after all those years, but I don't feel good about it

I think I agree with both of these. I love the first season or two of Sherlock but then at some point it took a turn for the worse, and I absolutely adored s1-3 and some of 4 of GoT, but ever since s5 it has started losing me. I felt like it got good again with season 6, but in retrospect, I think I mostly enjoyed it for the fact that a lot of shit went down. Doubt I'd enjoy it much upon rewatching.

Like you, I'll watch it to the end. Some day. Haven't had any interest in watching season 7 since the first episode.
 

AoM

Member
When all is said and done, I'm going to look back on AoS the most fondly tbh

Same.

And I'm curious to see what Whedon and Tancharoen go on to do. I'm not sure whether they have a deal with ABC or they'll go elsewhere.
 

Cipherr

Member
Im going to vote Battlestar Galactica. First few episodes were fine, then it clings for dear life by tossing twists at you that the writers had no intention or ability to pay off. Some strong performances from the cast and a great score carried that show in a limp from mid season 1 all the way until the end. Rewatching it is painful.

House of Cards was never a great show. It's always been a trashy soap opera that thinks it's a prestige political drama

I agree with this pretty much aside from the first two episodes. Those were solid and really well made. But fuck, season one started to nosedive immediately after those two episodes and just coasted to a finish. And after season 1 it became over the top comic book'ish nonsense like the later Breaking Bad seasons.
 

Imbarkus

As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
Hey as long as we're taking shots at sacred cows, let me see if you're ready for this:
Buffy the Vampire Slayer was pretty much the prototype for the modern CW cheesy superhero show. It's Arrow with good acting.

I was at a UPN affiliate when the desperate network picked it and Roswell up (remember Roswell?!?) for each of their respective last sputters. Yeesh.
 

Seventy70

Member
Daredevil and most Marvel Netflix shows are good examples. They are some of the most boring shows both companies put out.

I agree. I tried to watch Daredevil after hearing so much critical acclaim for it and it dragged so much. It really puzzles me why they are so well liked.

I also think that most network TV that came before streaming services really doesn't hold up well. You can tell most of it is designed around commercials, dragged out, full of filler, etc.
 
I remember being told by everyone to watch Arrow when it only had 2 seasons. I thought season 1 was mostly garbage with a few good episodes scattered around. Season 2 was fucking lit though.
 

Sheroking

Member
I remember being told by everyone to watch Arrow when it only had 2 seasons. I thought season 1 was mostly garbage with a few good episodes scattered around. Season 2 was fucking lit though.

This is the commonly held opinion.

I would compare it to Angel in a sense. It took a year to find it's cast and rhythm. Like Angel, the show also saw somewhat of a creative resurgence in Season 5.
 

Avalanche

Member
Sherlock is a good example. The first season (series) is really good and than they pull a Chris Carter and get all obsessed with the mythology and a single narrative arc. Each case is inextricably linked to the Grand Plot in such a forced and ham-fisted way that the inevitable conclusion loses all meaning and power.

I still watch it because I like the characters, though, as disappointing as the plotting has become.

The wedding episode was just fundamentally unacceptable to me. I refuse to watch a show disappear up its own ass if it isn't going to let me enjoy myself at the same time.
 

DeathyBoy

Banned
This is the commonly held opinion.

I would compare it to Angel in a sense. It took a year to find it's cast and rhythm. Like Angel, the show also saw somewhat of a creative resurgence in Season 5.

The Angel S3 thread would've been the worst thread ever to read live. I can picture the geek rage...
 

eot

Banned
Breaking Bad. That plane plotline is one of the worst things on TV, Skylar is misogynistically written, and the show doesn't know if it wants to be serious premium TV or camp garbage and keeps going back and forth to its own detriment. Axe wielding twin latino gangsters? Magnets? Really?

Agree completely.
The soap opera fake dramatic moments are garbage too.
 

mandiller

Member
I recently watched all of Dexter and had never seen it before. My take is that season 1-4 were pretty great and still very watchable. The rest was a pretty big drop off but still OK to watch streaming back to back.
 
This is the commonly held opinion.

I would compare it to Angel in a sense. It took a year to find it's cast and rhythm. Like Angel, the show also saw somewhat of a creative resurgence in Season 5.

I heard season 5 was way better, but I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it after being burnt so hard by seasons 3 and 4
 
Homeland and Dexter come to mind.

I managed a season of Dexter and I'm still not sure how I got through that much. The sister was the most irritating character of all time and Doakes was just a walking stereotype.
 

StayDead

Member
When I was younger I never got into Seinfeld, I started watching it a few years back and it's timeless comedy. It's amazing.

One show I would say is Lost. People loved it, but all it ever did was throw questions upon questions and never answer most of them. It was awful.
 

A-V-B

Member
Remember how Peter forgot to go back and get his Irish girlfriend when he left her in that horrible nightmare future?

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And then probably killed her by altering the future?

who could forget?

for nothing else but one of the most unique ways to kill someone with time travel seen in any medium
 
Erm, sopranos was great right to the end.

House I think. Like it was the same things every episode basically, he magically figured out the answer by doing something quirky or semi hostile.
 
Lost.

Jesus, never before have I wanted so much time invested in finishing that show back, just to see how that would tie it all up.

It all went tits up from Season 4.
 
Might be controversial, but I would put HIMYM.

The show had some slow seasons and the last season is dumpster fire because of one episode. Yet the entire time it was around all I could hear from people was that it was a modern version of Friends. I finally watched the whole thing and all I could think was Meh.
 
Heroes. The show got terrible post-season one, but in retrospect even season one was super dicey, and a lot of its appeal was because it was the "good Lost" at a time when Lost was floundering.

S1 of Heroes was a really good 10 or 12 episode show padded the fuck out with loads of filler. S2 was just weak, regardless of its short run-time due to the writer's strike.
 

Staf

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Friends is a good one. It seems like America collectively lost its shit over that show in the early/mid 90's. Everyone was talking about it; heck, the fricking theme song used to be played on the radio non-ironically.

I don't think it's an affront to God like some folk, but it was just a bog standard sitcom for its time.

Friends also hasn't aged well, it's probably one of the most offensive comedies that currently airs on TV.

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DeathyBoy

Banned
S1 of Heroes was a really good 10 or 12 episode show padded the fuck out with loads of filler. S2 was just weak, regardless of its short run-time due to the writer's strike.

People swore twelve episode seasons were the future. Then you got stuff like DD S2 which had four good eps to start and nosedived. Poor pacing isn't just a 22 episode thing.
 

Ravelle

Member
I think a lot of shows are great for a couple of seasons but then take a dive in writing because the writers stop caring about the show or writers leave.

Some mediocre shows go on for decades probably because the illuminati is funding it or something while the exceptional shows that dare to try something else get barely any ratings and get canceled after 1 or 2 seasons.
 

Ravelle

Member
This thread is actually a bit meaningless because everyone's just listening every television for the past 20 years and make it seem all television is bad.
 

SMG

Member
Dexter was good until the last season.

Lost was a very enjoyable show even though it made no sense. I still loved the ride. No regrets.


Y'all need a reality check.
Dexter turned to shit at S5. The show lost stopped questioning Dexter and just willowed around in the kills.

Lost was always bad, the polar bear was where I burst out laughing and gave up on it. Knowing all the fans would come to realize the truth of the laziness some day.
 

Monocle

Member
S7 of GoT on the other hand feels like a really, really dumb fantasy show right now. The earlier seasons draw you in with intriguing political sheming and backstabbing, then that sort of goes away and you keep watching for the buddy road trips and character moments, and now they rush towards the conclusion of the show and everything comes across as either unintentionally hilarious or cringe-inducing. Sure, I still watch it because I want to see how it ends after all those years, but I don't feel good about it
The awesome fantasy stuff is what the books and show were leading up to all along. If you didn't see this coming you weren't paying attention.
Magic swords, ice zombies, and dragons were always in the cards.
These things showed up very early on, albeit in an understated way.

Also if you're going to shit on the spectacular battle from Season 7 Episode 4, I have bad news: you don't like fantasy. Fantasy is not for you any more.
 

Ravelle

Member
Lost is the first thing I thought of. Hated it at the time and couldn't understand what the fuss was about.

I watched it after the fact since I've never watched it and I enjoyed it up until the village part, it might not have been a great show but it got super dumb when they arrived at that village, it was just one dumb thing after another. I was officially done with the show when they decided to have Locke kill himself and have some demon take over his body. He was the reason I kept watching. I still watched it to the end but those last seasons were rough.
 
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