Dangansona
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Another TP thread, another string of complaints about the slow beginning. I guess I'll just never understand as someone who enjoys the beginning of Zelda games.
Twilight Princess is White Album of Video Games
- Thread starter Kevin Shields
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OrbitalBeard
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Yep, you're definitely right about The Wall.
Animals is my favorite Pink Floyd album too!
Randomizer
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I'll give you everything else but this is unequivocally false. It arguably has the best designed dungeons in the series.
It's Huelen. Pretty sure she's actually serious.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Oh, The Beatles...
I was thinking of this
Is the anime based on this? I saw the promo cover on Crunchyroll but those characters/art style don't look similar.
lol, I swear that gif is the only good thing to come out of that movie
LegendofLex
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I'd say Twilight Princess is probably second only to Ocarina of Time, but the BS that you have to jump through between dungeons knocks it down quite a bit.
In OoT, you might have to complete a task or two before you reach a new dungeon, but it's rare to run into a situation where the game is literally giving you only one option for where you can go/what you can do next.
In OoT, you might have to complete a task or two before you reach a new dungeon, but it's rare to run into a situation where the game is literally giving you only one option for where you can go/what you can do next.
Randomizer
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Zant boss battle? I mean it is the biggest wtf? in the game right?
Sheriff_Battlesnake
Banned
Chrono Trigger is without bloat. It's more like a Sgt. Pepper.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
Chrono Trigger is the Citizen Kane Soundtrack of video games.
Superman Returns is the White Album of movies.
"You know what would be a great thing to do with all this awesome build-up for our game's villain? Let's throw it in a dumpster fire instead!"
WrenchNinja
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Twilight Princess is the Buu Saga of video games
kamineko
Does his best thinking in the flying car
But there is no "Happiness Is a Warm Gun"-tier moment in Twilight Princess
I think it's more like the "Their Satanic Majesty's Request" (Stones record) of Zelda.
Strange, flawed, uneven, with many wonderful moments. Essential, but eclipsed by greater works.
I think it's more like the "Their Satanic Majesty's Request" (Stones record) of Zelda.
Strange, flawed, uneven, with many wonderful moments. Essential, but eclipsed by greater works.
Confused Cheeseburger
Member
I could see that. I might even say it's more like Revolver.
This is definitely true. The obsession with bugs comes out of nowhere
EVA UNIT 01
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TP is a masterpiece and my fav zelda.
Opinions amirite?
Opinions amirite?
That's the thing for me, the white album is so massive with so many things that is hard for me to call it a masterpiece as a whole.
But well, still is a good disc
I just can't agree with you. I found them so terrible and forgettable, never exciting at all. The bosses were just a mess.
Reverend Funk
Comfy Penetration
The beatles rock band is the white album of video games
billy beane
Banned
What game is the It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back of video games?
Sakura
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There is both a White Album and a White Album 2. I think they both have anime, but I've never watched them only played the games. Maybe you were looking at the White Album 2 which is why the characters look different?
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akidnamededdy
Banned
Failed generation of flagship Nintendo games?
Mario Galaxy 1 and 2? NSMBWii? Skyward Sword even? Metroid Prime 3/Trilogy? DKC Returns? Xenoblade?!?
You high?
Anyway I like twilight princess.
The only possible thing Animals and Wind Waker have in common is five of something.
EDIT: And a large pig, I guess.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
weezer hasnt put out the white album yet though
TheCowboyPoet
Member
Wow, wow, are we talking bad about Why Don't We Do It In The Road before we're talking crap about Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da or Revolution 9? Come on now, OP.
ClayKavalier
Banned
If only skipping to the good parts of Twilight Princess were as easy as pressing a button.
Since everyone ignored this plea, I'll answer it, because even something as culturally important as the Beatles is generally ignored heavily among gamers
I don't think I have to go into the The Beatles heavily, but they were THE rock and roll act of the 60's and basically reinvigorated popular rock and roll music in the world after the American rock and roll scene lost many heavy hitters in the "Day that music died" in 1959
Anyway, The Beatles were pretty stock pop rock for the beggining part of their career but pushed heavily into experimentation and musical exploration which can generally be heard first in their album Rubber Soul, which generally features more of their distinct future sound that Rock and Roll will be all about for a good 7-10 years.
Anyway, so we got The Beatles out of the way, the White album is probably their most ambitious title in their catalogue. It was a 2 album release which critics absolutely adored and featured a lot of quality Beatles songs. Unfortunately, it does have some shortcomings. The fact it was 2 albums led itself to having more filler, which is incredibly rare in a Beatles album. It also isn't generally as well received as Sgt Peppers or Abbey Road.
I think in general, it's a flawed assessment of both the Beatles and the Legend of Zelda series. The only similarities is that I think both titles are the most ambitious titles in their collective series and are also both filled with "filler" but in terms of cultural impact, Twilight Princess mostly existed in a vacuum and really did nothing to push the game industry forward like the White Album did. In comparisons to Ocarina of Time and Major as Mask, I think both titles are also a lot more experimental and shaped gaming a lot more then Twilight Princess did. Hell, I'd argue that Wind Waker was way more experimental in its game design then Twilight Princess. Twilight Princess is really a derivative release and while there's nothing wrong with that, its tough to compare it to the Beatles
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Twilight Princess is the first ZELDA game to have something to say.
Visualante2
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presented without comment
Spieler Eins
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Not sure what that comparison means, but I know that TP is the best Zelda after MM. I can't find any bad bloat after the first hour tbh.
efyu_lemonardo
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sorry, this comparison is nonsense
it's like the Tingle of comparisons.
it's like the Tingle of comparisons.
M0nochromatic
Member
Finally, someone's making sense.
I love TP a lot. It has a very good stretch in the middle with Arbiter's Grounds, Snowpeak, and City in the Sky.
That said, I really think SS outdid it in nearly every respect. Better dungeons, better stuff to do outside of dungeons, better characters, better art design, everything was just more clever overall.
Most of GAF won't agree, but I guess I'm used to that at this point.
That said, I really think SS outdid it in nearly every respect. Better dungeons, better stuff to do outside of dungeons, better characters, better art design, everything was just more clever overall.
Most of GAF won't agree, but I guess I'm used to that at this point.
TheCowboyPoet
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Did you happen to see the thread when George Martin passed away? The first page was almost entirely people getting mad at the OP because he didn't specify that it wasn't George RR Martin who died. Like George Martin Beatles Producer isn't the most culturally important George Marin.
You need to get into vinyl records, my friend.
Tits and dragons, my friend.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
I doubt there are enough people on this board with intimate knowledge of both to make a thoughtful comparison, but it's an interesting thought.
Haven't played TP so I'm squarely in that group, but it's still an amazing album, even the "filler" songs as you put them are pretty great. Insofar as I know, TP is the most divisive Zelda out there, so maybe it's more akin to something like Rubber Soul or Revolver. I always thought the White Album was universally loved -- it's an album that almost every fan of 60's/70's Rock owns.
Haven't played TP so I'm squarely in that group, but it's still an amazing album, even the "filler" songs as you put them are pretty great. Insofar as I know, TP is the most divisive Zelda out there, so maybe it's more akin to something like Rubber Soul or Revolver. I always thought the White Album was universally loved -- it's an album that almost every fan of 60's/70's Rock owns.
Kevin Shields
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I love how detailed everyone is getting. My comparison is not necessarily on experimenting or pushing genre forward. My comparison is TP has arguably the series highest highs (most people seem to agree it has best set of dungeons) while having a lot of throw away stuff. The White Album imo has the greatest set of songs of any Beatles album but it also struggles with bloat and pacing. That is my comparison between the two.
Maybe the Wall? I think the Wall is the most divisive of the Roger Waters era Pink Floyd albums, although it's kind of like you said, it's pretty much universally loved.
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butman
Member
Kevin Shields
Member
Say what now? Revolver and Rubber Soul aren't divisive much at all. Maybe Let it Be.
Jack Remington
Banned
It's a Beatles album that basically started the third and final act of their career. (Act 1 is the pop stuff, Act 2 is a series of concise albums that moved away from pop in favor of more musical complexity and trippy production (Rubber Soul to Magical Mystery Tour), and Act 3 is the rest.
It's a double album that has a lot of their best songs, but also nearly all the Beatles songs that could be considered stinkers. A big part of this is that the band barely functioned as a band during this period, as John and Paul couldn't stand each other, so both of them and George all did their own thing with little collaboration.
Probably 60% of the album is great, and 40% is... an acquired taste at best. But kind of shit if we're being honest.
OrbitalBeard
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efyu_lemonardo
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It comes off as an extremely arbitrary comparison. You can compare Twilight Princess to a lot of things you believe are inconsistent in their quality, but that doesn't mean you should.
edit: also I guarantee you in 50 years hardly anyone will have heard of TP, but the White Album will still be listened to.
