The whole "write it in your diary" was a key thing tonight! Now, the timing of how those pages get to the station is still interesting given past event timing, but I can run with it as presented.
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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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The whole "write it in your diary" was a key thing tonight! Now, the timing of how those pages get to the station is still interesting given past event timing, but I can run with it as presented.
wanderingprostheyltite
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The absence of Harry is probably the biggest elephant in the room this episode, working around that does seem a bit wonky, but what can ya do. Phone call to him could've been cut imo, I think Hayward's skype call serves the progression as is. Not sure what disembodied Harry will be able to reveal later on that the Doc can't.
I think a lot of you are jumping the gun with the "Boop raped Audrey" thing, that's a theory but let's not act like it's a fact. Lordy.
Retcon how? I'm pretty sure Donna/Maddy/James said some pages were missing when they found it?
Retcon how? I'm pretty sure Donna/Maddy/James said some pages were missing when they found it?
Lord Frieza
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No. They were referenced in FWWM
Yes/no. The dream happened, but she had already dropped off the real secret diary, I believe.
VistraNorrez
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Watch the scene again. It's very clear she is taking about Cooper's Doppelgänger visiting her.
Well, Laura would have had to visit Harold to write Annie's message in her diary, since he was in possession of it at the time. Obviously we didn't see that in FWWM but it theoretically could have happened at some point in her last few days.
She would have had to do that anyway to explain the "Today is the day that I die" entry that Cooper finds in the original series.
She could be mentioned but I doubt we will see her unless they recasted her.
VistraNorrez
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They could say it was a recurring dream Laura had. Annie's already time traveling why not make a recurrence. Not too bad a retcon. Of course I don't expect them to address it at all.
Zoe
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And she wrote about when she finally realized it was her father.
The show not treating the Annie's existence like a major secret is making The Secret History's (and, when interviewed, Mark Frost's) weird treatment of the subject look like a really pointless gimmick. Feels weird to have to wait for the show to inject some value back into that book.
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What was that skin flap from that was recovered at the Spike-Dougie assassination attempt crime scene? Was that from the Arm lol
"We've run a DNA test, it appears to be part tree"
"We've run a DNA test, it appears to be part tree"
Intheflorsh
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Cole is losing his hearing by the end of the season, they're definitely teasing it.
BenjaminBirdie
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At this point I'd like to hear why you think it DIDNT happen, specifically. Everything you mentioned is not at all implicit in the scenes we saw.
wanderingprostheyltite
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lel
I wonder what kinda budget cuts they got from all the product placement going on. Fairly indifferent about it but damn I'm seeing more brands pop up than most shows.
ZombieSupaStar
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I think he degloved part of ikes palm on the gun, he was trying to squeeze his hand off.
or how they were able to give Lynch the budget he wanted.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Yeah that makes sense. Wonder what the forensics on that will turn up, the little girl at the scene mentioned he smelled bad. Scorched engine oil?
Because here's how her earlier scene would have gone:
Cole: "We have Cooper in a federal prison and we think there might be something wrong with him. We need you to look at him."
Diane: "No need. There's definitely something wrong with him. He raped me 25 years ago. He had just gotten back from Twin Peaks and it made him evil."
And what the hell is her line of questioning in the interrogation if not "I'm going to ask him something only the real Cooper would know" ?
bunbun777
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Cooper represents dreams made manifest, he embodied virtue that with determination changed people's lives for the better. Diane experienced this "first hand" by hearing Cooper's innermost thoughts, feelings, questions and expressions, they were close in this sense at least.
I truly believe Dale wouldn't have slept with Diane because of his past with Windom Earle's wife and how he recounted his hopes and fears of finding another love. He wouldn't just bang for fun.
Enter Bad Coop: Bob the spirit feeding off of trauma and pain, best way to feed up is to go to the bank of good will with Diane that has been established and pretend to manifest whatever hope she had. Consensual sex turns from intimate hopeful love into something much darker. Twists Diane, subverts and perverts her emotionally. That's a lot of corn there.
I truly believe Dale wouldn't have slept with Diane because of his past with Windom Earle's wife and how he recounted his hopes and fears of finding another love. He wouldn't just bang for fun.
Enter Bad Coop: Bob the spirit feeding off of trauma and pain, best way to feed up is to go to the bank of good will with Diane that has been established and pretend to manifest whatever hope she had. Consensual sex turns from intimate hopeful love into something much darker. Twists Diane, subverts and perverts her emotionally. That's a lot of corn there.
Secret Fawful
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part of all this is about the sadness and inevitability of aging, i like the harry calls.
talisayNon
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is that weird plant suppose to be the dwarf/arm?
Lord Frieza
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The evil version of the arm
There's two trees. One is the evolution of the arm. The other is his doppleganger who screamed "NONEXISTENT" in Coop's face
Lord Frieza
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Yeah, that's what I mean by the evil version
I mean, calling his doppleganger "evil" implies The Arm is "good" and MIKE cut off The Arm to no longer be like BOB so its arguable whether there's a "good" version or not
The fact that it was helping Coop (and didn't have a yellow "head") would seem to indicate that it was the "good" arm tonight.
ZombieSupaStar
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I dont think theyll ever explain that. Probably death/purgatory/hell/heaven etc.
It makes me wonder if this season is truly the end or not.
Lord Frieza
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Good point
Honestly I don't really want them to. Reveals rarely meet expectations, esp for a +25 year old show.
I mean, I kinda wanna know what Doop and Bob are but the Lodge itself not so much.
BenjaminBirdie
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Doop is the original Dougie. Boop was freed from prison.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I knew it sound familiar!
Brian_FETO
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This episode was amazing
The hardcore context/infodump at the beginning was hilarious
Diane is great. Naomi Watts is incredible
The hardcore context/infodump at the beginning was hilarious
Diane is great. Naomi Watts is incredible
I was unfortunately thinking the same thing, glad I wasn't the only one.....
Chance Hale
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I wonder why the hitman killed the people in the office in such a depraved, tortuous way but just attempted to shoot Dougie.
F0rneus
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Cause he broke his ice pick. T_T
Intheflorsh
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Well, he couldn't use the spike.
Zombie James
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Anyone?
KO Traveling Hobo
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This episode was perfect in almost every way, with the very minor exception of the scene between the woman and her crippled husband.
Worth noting that the left hand, and the removal thereof, has been a recurring theme. I don't really understand how Coop managed to pry that piece of flesh off, though.
edit: nix the left hand comment. It was Ike's right hand.
Spiritually, Doop is the reverse of Coop, and it was Doop's spiritual finger's print that was reversed.
Worth noting that the left hand, and the removal thereof, has been a recurring theme. I don't really understand how Coop managed to pry that piece of flesh off, though.
edit: nix the left hand comment. It was Ike's right hand.
Spiritually, Doop is the reverse of Coop, and it was Doop's spiritual finger's print that was reversed.
The second word he said to Cole was reversed ("It's yrev very good to see you again, old friend") and the fingerprint on his second finger is reversed (you know, counting from the pinky inward).
Cole mentioned something about the ring finger representing the "spiritual mound" or somesuch. Palmistry, I suppose? I don't know the details behind that, but I understood it to mean that something is spiritually messed up about this particular Cooper.
I went back and rewatched that part and he didn't pry it off but he squeezed hard enough that part of the flesh on his hand came off. When Ike pulled his hand away from the gun it had a red mark where the skin used to be.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Ike The Partially Degloved just doesn't have the same ring to it. Poor fella.
KO Traveling Hobo
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I didn't mean pry literally. I just don't understand how squeezing Ike's hand resulted in a strip of flesh getting stuck to the gun.
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