Twitch: Changes To Audio In VODS
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Duxxy3
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It's a free benefit to streamers to keep them DMCA compliant! Yay! Free!!
Well now there are articles up on The Verge, ArsTechnica, BoingBoing, Endgadget, ect.
Also looks like speedrunners are already migrating to other services.
You see, these draconian measures are actually here to help you and your stream become even better!
Too bad that their content matching is flagging simple in-game music as well.
Mikey Jr.
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SPOILER: The last of Us spoilers!
http://www.twitch.tv/avajaijai/b/552681572
Was watching some of her past broadcasts.
Half an hour in one of the best parts, just muted.
Terrible. And I don't even know why.
SPOILER: The last of Us spoilers!
http://www.twitch.tv/avajaijai/b/552681572
Was watching some of her past broadcasts.
Half an hour in one of the best parts, just muted.
Terrible. And I don't even know why.
SPOILER: The last of Us spoilers!
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
This targets game audio too.
Leafhopper
Banned
For real, if this does eventually hit livestreams then SaltyBet is ultra dead. All they do is play licensed music.
There's no reason why they wouldn't target livestreams eventually. The technology for ContentIDing livestreams already exists.
I'm sure Twitch can't really hear our complaints over the cha-ching sound of a billion dollars.
Doesn't that already happen in Youtube livestreams?
Duxxy3
Member
lol - she got hit for in game audio (in a game with almost no music). there is nothing she can do about that.
Not only that, but twitch streams aren't really live. They come with a sizable delay. That's more than enough time for a system to see if licensed music is playing, and muting the channel.
Yep. You can get copyright strikes on your account for it if I'm not mistaken.
Sharkiller
Member
you can bypass the mute while you are in the mute part doing a double SPACE. it pause and resume with sound.
And once you get copyright strikes, you can't fight them, they can't be removed, and there's no one to complain to/negotiate with because contacting Google is like trying to break a wall with your head. Once your account get's into "bad standing", it's done for.
I dont think thats like youtube. The content on twitch is more "mobile", especially after they will delete VODs. Youtube has a history of videos, a legacy, twitch is just live streams now. If the streamers move to somewhere else the people will follow.
Google owns Ustream? Or are you talking about an upload to Youtube as well as any Twitch archiving?
ChrisMahoney
Banned
Do people honestly expect Twitch not to do this? Having copyright music on VoDs is completely illegal.
The only thing I have a problem with is Twitch should have announced this before implementation so people would have time to backup their favorite VoDs
The only thing I have a problem with is Twitch should have announced this before implementation so people would have time to backup their favorite VoDs
It worked for that one but that trick doesn't seem to work for all, I've tried a couple. Nothing in these TLOU scenes in the red seem to have any music either. Simply amazing.
Leafhopper
Banned
Well that's real crappy, I wasn't aware it could happen with Youtube livestreams :/ but, it does make sense that it does work.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
About time actually. Although it's good they aren't doing it to the live streams, and anyway, no one watches VODs on Twitch because the player is awful.
Sharkiller
Member
it doesnt work if the video is all muted. only for some parts
Umm it's not just copyright music. Even the ingame music is getting streamers VOD's muted. Twitch didn't think this shit out.
There is no reason to believe or think that this wasn't intended to be implemented for livestreams.
About time they mute in-game audio from streams? Huh.
Kotetsu534
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-> Invest a massive sum in acquisition.
-> Immediately begin devaluing said acquisition by angering the large, established userbase with huge, destabilising changes.
-> Immediately begin devaluing said acquisition by angering the large, established userbase with huge, destabilising changes.
Felix Lighter
Member
Did you know that you could have muted those streams yourself (or not watched them at all) before this change was put in place? This whole time you suffered for nothing.
I go and watch VOD's of my favorite streamers in case I missed them. I watched Comos VOD when he got WR in Oot. This is troubling and it sucks. It's only a matter of time this is implemented in Livestreams
or play music made by people who are OK with you streaming it and support sane copyright owners
Sylverstone14
Member
Looks like I should make a Hitbox.tv account soon...
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
That's not the intent. It might take a while for the kinks to be sorted out.
ChrisMahoney
Banned
That will be fixed.
BibleThump
It's not about value, it's about buying the competition.
When you have a monopoly on internet streaming/video, doesn't matter what your reputation is.
This in no way helps either the viewer or the broadcaster, it only helps cover Twitch/YouTube's ass against any copyright claims. Now that YouTube owns Twitch, its clear why they are implementing these draconian changes because YouTube already has massive contracts signed to keep the music industry happy.
There is no point to this, as no one is losing money when a broadcaster streams and happens to have music playing in the background. It doesn't help that games like GTA will get hit with it, even when its a legitimate source. No one is watching a broadcaster, hearing their music and going "jee, I'll pirate that!"
No, it won't. Explain how they can differentiate a song playing on the radio in GTA V and one playing in the streamer's house.
They very explicitly say this policy will cover in-game audio as well.
7DollarHagane
Banned
well twitch, you had a good run.
where is everyone starting to move to that doesn't have corporate dicks in every orifice yet?
where is everyone starting to move to that doesn't have corporate dicks in every orifice yet?
Leon Belmont
Member
Bro if you bought a Metallica CD and you want to play it while you are playing a game like Minecraft or other game that does not have a good OST, why is illegal? So if you play Brutal Legend on stream they will mute the vod because BL is full of copyrighted music... I think is not illegal play music on the background, because you are not pirating it, selling it, or anything else...
nephilimdj
Member
Its amazing how heavily they are pushing youtube on the blog and comments, its like they are not even pretending to know about the google rumor
Really got to worry about this site
Really got to worry about this site
So you want muted footage? Huh.
Duxxy3
Member
Sometimes you don't want to make a subsidiary better, sometimes you just want to get rid of competition.
There is no way for copyright holders to flag music as cleared for streaming, nor even deal with claims on anything other than a case by case basis. Necessary or not, the implementation is draconian and poorly thought out with no attempt to work out licensing deals or provide flexible tools for developers and rights holders.
Angelcurio
Member
Time to migrate to other alternatives. Locking content either by region or on the basis of copyright infringement is extremely annoying. It makes me really mad each time I try watch a YouTube video and I get greeted with the message "This video is not available in your country"
Sharkiller
Member
how much money they do with youtube? how more money they are going to do killing the competition?
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