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[entremet]

The shooter posted a first-person POV video of the shooting on Twitter and Facebook.

I missed that.

I thought plp were talking about the original video.

This is some Dexter level stuff.

 

[Pastry]

The guy was obviously planning this for a couple of weeks. His Twitter was slowly being filled in with photos of himself and weird random bits of info.

 

[antonz]

Ya I just watched that video. Crazy. Looks like he shot the girl first, about 3-4 times as she ran away. After that the video goes black and you hear 4-5 more shots.

Id guess Cameraman dropped out of instinct and positioned the camera deliberately to catch gunmen. Once Vester was done with the woman he turned his attention to cameraman

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

Mentally same people don't shoot people.

Then film it. Then upload it to twitter.

Gun control is an important issue, but mental health importance isn't a deflection, it's simply not taken seriously enough until it's too late.

So again the narrative in gun violence is "he was mentally unstable" instead of "we should really do something about the amount of guns on the streets".

 

[Kacho]

That video was intense. Dude was on a mission. Damn.

 

[The Elite]

Holy fuck I just saw this on TMZ.

They wouldn't show the first person video, would they?

 

[Always-honest]

Do we have suspect?

He pretty much filmed him killing them and posted it on facebook and Twitter. So yeah.

 

[NihonTiger90]

He's involved in police chase. Had uploaded the murder on Twitter and Facebook.

Redditors have apparently pulled the footage and uploaded it other places.

Which is exactly what he wanted.

Good job, internet. *sigh*

 

[mackattk]

Thankfully Facebook took down that video.. It was all too real seeing it from his perspective. Watching from the camera man's perspective was totally different. I guess that is one reason why it is so easy for people to just quickly forget about things, and why no real effective changes happen.

Really wish I didn't watch it, it is going to stay with me for a long time.

 

[Squalor]

It speaks to the differences within the countries. Messing with the US bill of rights like so many think will be simple just isn't going to be taken lightly. It will face unprecedented scrutiny and resistance. It's borderline political suicide. So yeah, I'm not sure what Australia has to do with this. I'm not the one who mentioned the country anyway.

Guns have nothing to do with art. Your point is as invalid as it was before.

 

[cameron]

Twitter video auto played. Initially thought it was something else. Closed the tab after I saw the gun raised.

 

[tim.mbp]

In a situation like this, can Twitter/Facebook block the public from seeing a profile but still allow the user to see it as working normally? I'm just wondering if the police could use his postings to somehow get a fix on his location.

 

[gaugebozo]

The only thing I can see tipping pro-gun opinion is an incident where someone who is armed is attacked and his weapon doing nothing to help in the situation. And even then, I'm sure there would be excuses as to why the armed victim was unable to fight back. Obviously I don't want this to happen to anyone, but it's the only thing I can see that might have a chance at swaying the current gun control temperature.

This has already happened: 2012 Empire State Building shooting. Gunman shoots one person in a work related shooting, shoots at no one else, police shoot him and nine innocent bystanders. People who have monthly range time and more training/experience than a normal person could hope to get STILL fuck things up (there are other incidents like this), and people don't see the problem with, "Solve it with more guns!"

Gun right proponents see themselves as Buffalo Bill when the truth is something more like Yosemite Sam.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

So again the narrative in gun violence is "he was mentally unstable" instead of "we should really do something about the amount of guns on the streets".

Why can't it be both? Our society has just as big an issue with how we deal with mental health as it does with guns. People can be bipolar or schizophrenic or any other number of things and we just throw them in jail, as if that's not going to just make them worse.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Because he clearly is mentally stable right now.

That, he is not..

 

[chalex010]

So he worked at the station and left in 2013? This doesn't seem like something someone would have bad blood over after two and a half years...

It seems like they got along at some point

*Image removed because I went full on CNN with my fact checking

http://heavy.com/news/2015/08/leste...raman-photos-video-chase-gun-gunman-arrested/

 

[Sectorseven]

Did he post the video prior to the authorities identifying him?

 

[kess]

Holy fuck I just saw this on TMZ.

Dealing in snuff films now?

 

[Lonely1]

Well, the videos you guys are talking about are gone.

 

[SuperBanana]

So again the narrative in gun violence is "he was mentally unstable" instead of "we should really do something about the amount of guns on the streets".

Mental health and gun control both dealt with would be ideal.

 

[Kraftwerk]

I've seen be headings, burning, stoning etc...


But the video of him walking up to them casually and waving the gun has actually made me sick. I almost threw up. It's feels too surreal... I feel guilty, as if I had no right to watch that video. Those people, in that moment... Jesus christ.

Fuck

 

[backflip10019]

Please don't tell me it's on their website. Fucking scum.

They wouldn't show the first person video, would they?

No, they don't have the first person video up. Just a news story.

 

[Ourobolus]

Looks like the twitter account is suspended.

 

[Violence Jack]

That's so fucked up. Thank god I chose not to watch that video. And I believe the reporter and cameraman were engaged to other people.

Heartbreaking. I hope its the death penalty for that psycho.

 

[Sponge]

I live very close to the area where this happened. I'm horrified by everything I've read about the shooting. I can't handle this.

 

[Brianimaniac]

So again the narrative in gun violence is "he was mentally unstable" instead of "we should really do something about the amount of guns on the streets".

It's both and more. There is no one magic cure-all thing you can do to solve the problem.

 

[Shuggananas]

Please don't tell me it's on their website. Fucking scum.

I bet it is. Don't even wanna give clicks to that shit.

 

[Hedrush]

CNN just reported there is no pursuit.

 

[Goodacre0081]

I don't see how anyone would WANT to watch that video he posted. I saw it accidentally because he posted it on twitter and feel like puking right now. And I only saw the first part when he was waving the gun and then start shooting Alison...

there are sick fucking people in this world that would want to watch it. we just witnessed one of them murder two people in cold blood for no good reason.

 

[Milly Osworth]

This isn't about guns (I'm against guns). It's about mentally sick people. The only way to prevent this from happening would be screening everyone's mental health. I doubt that will happen anytime soon. He could have used any other weapon in this situation.

 

[Always-honest]

So he worked at the station and left in 2013? This doesn't seem like something someone would have bad blood over after two and a half years...

It seems like they got along at some point

http://heavy.com/news/2015/08/leste...raman-photos-video-chase-gun-gunman-arrested/

Is that him though?...

 

[sappyday]

Did you watch the whole video? The Twitter one? How is that not completely derailing your day and fucking with your head? This madness is just unbelievable.

I didn't. I just saw him tweeting and saying he recorded the video and it was up on facebook. Before I know it the vid was on twitter and fucking has some stupid auto play and I saw the first few seconds.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

So he worked at the station and left in 2013? This doesn't seem like something someone would have bad blood over after two and a half years...

It seems like they got along at some point

http://heavy.com/news/2015/08/leste...raman-photos-video-chase-gun-gunman-arrested/

That's not him. Like, other than being black that doesn't even look like him.

 

[marrec]

Did he post the video prior to the authorities identifying him?

No. He posted them right after the authorities started sharing his name and his Twitter handle got out.

 

[Rose of Eternity]

The first person video is on youtube, very easy to find. It's insane. He holds the gun up to them for seconds just a few feet away and no one notices him. The video almost looks fake. But it's not. What an insane thing.

 

[Arthr2ShdsJcksn]

Well, the videos you guys are talking about are gone.

The sad thing is, people already have it and are sharing it. It will never be gone.

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

Why were you guys linking this a couple of pages back? I know it's suspended now, but still. Honest question.

 

[EBreda]

Ok so lets only torture mentally ill people.

I'm clearly talking about this specific psycho and out of anger, obviously. Nice of you trying to take my words out of context as if it was my motto in a political campaign.

 

[ebullientprism]

Honest question, why is it assumed it was mental health? This always seems to be the narrative for when these things happens and all it does it deflect the discussion.

People like guns. They want to keep their guns. So if you dont believe that the shooter is suffering from some sort of mental health issues then the only alternative left is that people have way too easy access to weapons. People dont wanna open that door.

 

[backflip10019]

This has already happened: 2012 Empire State Building shooting. Gunman shoots one person in a work related shooting, shoots at no one else, police shoot him and nine innocent bystanders. People who have monthly range time and more training/experience than a normal person could hope to get STILL fuck things up (there are other incidents like this), and people don't see the problem with, "Solve it with more guns!"

Gun right proponents see themselves as Buffalo Bill when the truth is something more like Yosemite Sam.

Yeah, that's a good point. I remember that clearly because I had actually just walked through the area about 20 minutes before that happened. Surreal to think about.

 

[gdt]

I saw the first couple of seconds. As soon as he pulled out the gun I had to shut it off. This is evil.

 

[Kinyou]

Please don't tell me it's on their website. Fucking scum.

They have a single screencap of the TV broadcast video. Still haunting enough to look at

 

[EnlightenedMint]

So he worked at the station and left in 2013? This doesn't seem like something someone would have bad blood over after two and a half years...

It seems like they got along at some point

According to his twitter he was suing the company so who knows how long that lasted.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

Why can't it be both?

Because one side will use mental health as a reason to advocate for less gun restrictions and laws.

People like guns. They want to keep their guns. So if you dont believe that the shooter is suffering from some sort of mental health issues then the only alternative left is that people have way too easy access to weapons. People dont wanna open that door.

That's exactly the door that should be opened right now.

 

[Quake1028]

It almost looked in the POV video that Alison turned to the right and saw the person a few seconds before he started shooting.

 

[jerry113]

I hope its the death penalty for that psycho.

edit: not the time and the place.

 

[Squalor]

That's not him. Like, other than being black that doesn't even look like him.

That's enough for a lot of people, though.

 

[Arcia]

Everyone should probably take this as a sign to turn off auto play on Twitter.

 

[Damaniel]

I don't see how anyone would WANT to watch that video he posted. I saw it accidentally because he posted it on twitter and feel like puking right now. And I only saw the first part when he was waving the gun and then start shooting Alison...

Yep, went to his Twitter account, saw the second POV video autoplay on there, bailed without watching as soon as I realized what it was. Nobody really needs to see that.

 

[Aranath]

Christ, I need a break from the internet for awhile. This shit is too much.