That makes no sense. People are treating this like a huge deal. Idiots.
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That makes no sense. People are treating this like a huge deal. Idiots.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Reading the highlights, it becomes clear this guy is really disturbed. I think its safe to say he had mental issues and had anger against everyone
I don't agree with them releasing it right now. Besides, I seriously doubt people who aren't criminal physiologists will gain anything from reading a killers manifesto. If anything it will only fuel the interest people have in the story/killer and get the news company more revenue.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Information like that used to require passing the threshold "for the public good"; that line went out the window years ago as the media lost all respect for themselves and getting views and web visits became the number one priority.
Fenderputty
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I think that's a legit concern with or without the release of his manifesto.
The guy who you quoted was talking about the people in this thread.
You never specified that you were talking about NRA people.
And since the guy you quoted was talking about people in here, it seemed you were, too.
tkscz
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I didn't see it on the trends list, might want to check that out before believing that post.
OT: Man, to watch that shit go down is one thing, but to claim it was because of racism and homophobia, it's honestly something I've been fearing.
Sorry, it's kind of hard to tell through the internet and I know your initial post wasn't an attack in any way shape or form (even when I was telling you to calm down). I agree, that's why I was asking. I'm not exactly the most knowledgeable when it comes to gun politics or logistics.
I can't really blame the news, everyone is sitting around wondering why he did this, now we know.
I don't agree with them doing it, but if people are going to look at it I would prefer them to use a method that doesn't support the news outlet.
TheLostBigBoss
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in his manifesto he mentioned that the church shooting drove him over the edge.
So this is going to cause a huge race scuffle online, so be prepped for a onslaught of shit
doctorblurg
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This. The general public has no use for this information all this can do is fuel copycat killers.
la flama blanca
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If you take a look at the video and how he handled it all via social media, along with how he contacted ABC news, I don't think it could be any clearer how posting the manifesto is just a stupid idea.
Zabant
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Lets be clear, making MONEY was always the #1 priority.
If it's legal and makes a corporation money, they will do it.
Edit: HERE WE GO, just heard a comparison to FPS gaming on the news.
Why the hell is this being shown on air?
I mean, I know why. It is just a sad state of humanity that this is happening for viewers and profits.
ErasureAcer
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Black people don't like this tag because it takes focus off the racial injustice of police brutality towards blacks. Kind of ridiculous to get in a frizzy over people saying it as they're not saying it to dismiss black lives to but to unite people as one human race and go beyond the color of people's skin but sadly racism is still a part of society. Don't dare say AllLivesMatter without expecting someone to quash you down in 10 seconds. #BePrepared
Exactly.
I saw it on the news here in Brazil.
God damn reporters I knew about it, I didn't need to see it.
I really don't think my statement was that cryptic and if it was you could very well of asked for a clarification before going off the deep end pal.
speculawyer
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This whole idea of "If XXX had a gun, they would have been able to protect themselves" is so fucking stupid. Guns can be useful if you find yourself in the middle of a fire-fight.
But we live in a civil society, not a war zone. You don't go around constantly scanning for threats and moving from cover to cover. If someone with a gun wants to kill you, they can just walk up behind you and shoot you in the head. No matter how good of a gun you have and no matter how much training you have, you are dead. And that is the way many shootings go. They are not firefights, they are ambushes.
But we live in a civil society, not a war zone. You don't go around constantly scanning for threats and moving from cover to cover. If someone with a gun wants to kill you, they can just walk up behind you and shoot you in the head. No matter how good of a gun you have and no matter how much training you have, you are dead. And that is the way many shootings go. They are not firefights, they are ambushes.
cyberheater
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Holy fuck. can't believe a legitimate news outlet would broadcast that publicly.
The is the real life version of Jake Gyllenhaal's Nightcrawler.
BreezyLimbo
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Must be local. It's not appearing on my list.
Amory
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I would agree. When it first broke that he had shot himself, many people were hoping he'd live so we could learn his motivations
well, these were his motivations. they're ugly, but of course they were going to be ugly
I feel like every other country out there always shows the more hardcore stuff than here in America. I know it's true seeing as how when my parents watch the news on Univision or whatever they always show that hardcore stuff no American news station would play.
gunstarhero
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I was wondering how long it would take for the news outlets to dig up their Doom footage.
That's still counter productive to your own apparent agenda.
The whole point of the news is being able to obtain the information and facts as they unfold. Editing out specific content seems more of an agenda based ideal than releasing valid information to the public.
stufte
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TheLostBigBoss
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pretty sure those trending lists are semi based on your history of searches and stuff
ErasureAcer
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Great post. Must be quoted.
News here in Europe doesn't tend to censor as many things as they do in the US. (I'm an American now living in Europe)
Some things are off limits like isis chopping off heads but for the most part everything else is fair game.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Twitter trends won't be the same for everyone.
It wasn't cryptic to you because you knew what you were talking about.
As I said, if you reply to someone who already has a specific subject and your post agrees with his, it's pretty obviously going to be interpreted as your talking about the same subject.
Puck Beaverton
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Sadly this has gotten to the point where I think the general populace legit do not care anymore that these are happening and have accepted this as a normality on the level of robbery or the occasional murder. Shit is honestly scary how little people care these days.
Nabs
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Probably tailored trends based on your location/followers.
TheLostBigBoss
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he wasn't blaming games, he was just saying the similarity between an FPS and the POV of the shooting is strikingly similar, pointing out how disturbing it is when you see something like this that's seemingly familiar to a large portion of the populace.
User 100115
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So this whole thing has race, guns, misogyny, gay people, AND video games.
I am going to hide from the internet for a few weeks.
I am going to hide from the internet for a few weeks.
ARe you noticing that too? I'm speaking to a friend on gchat, he is FURIOUS over this....
I mean... I've seen a whole lot of people gunned down in the past months, a lot of innocent people.. but this one is really sticking out for people.
Its like the reaction from the Lion.
Baron_Calamity
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The problem is they are also the same people who are against universal health care and want to see all social safety nets cuts so that the lazy will have to work at jobs that don't exist and the disabled will have to depend on the kindness of strangers and churches who have shown zero kindness to the disabled.
That sounds really simple as an idea, but how would you actually accomplish this? How do you set up the facilities, professional evaluators and bureaucratic structure to actually do it? There are 235,000,000 adults in the United States. That's 235,000,000 in-depth psychological analyses. Let's break that down.
There are currently 297 cities in the US that have populations over 100,000 people. So to accomplish your plan, we have to put a facility in each of them so that we can actually accommodate every US citizen. To run an office like this and complete this task in any small amount of time, you'll need at least:
- 100 Evaluators
- 25 Supervisors/Office Managers
- 100 Support Staff Members
That's 225 staff members per office. Multiply that by the complete list of cities, and you're talking about 66,825 public servants (note that this doesn't even include oversight employees across regions and at the national level). And you'll have to either appropriate or build facilities for these people to work out of, which is its own logistical nightmare. But let's say you've got it - that's 29,700 evaluators trying to get 235,000,000 evaluations done - that's over 7900 evaluations per person. And these have to be in-depth, so you have to assume at least 4 hours of interaction between the evaluator and the citizen. Add in the time it takes to do the paperwork after analysis and it'd be at least an extra 4 hours of work before someone's file was "complete." So that's 8 hours per citizen per evaluator, so you figure, one a day, or 5 a week per evaluator. In total, that's 148,500 per week on a national scale, or 7,722,000 per year. So it'll take us over 30 years to do them all, not taking into account new adults who now have to be evaluated, new citizens, and of course re-applicants.
These numbers are pulled straight out of my ass, but I'd guess that they're probably extremely optimistic in every respect.
I mean, it's not like I disagree with you that it'd be great if there were no guns. I'd love that. But I honestly have no clue how to actually do it. Do you? I'm honestly asking, because I can't figure it out.
Best Nintendo Fan Ever
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I just watched that video. I don't understand how they couldn't see him standing there with a gun out???
Yup. And sadly there's some nut out there right now who will view this guy as an inspiration for his shooting. Never ending cycle.
TheLostBigBoss
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They are trained to focus on the camera and the person they are talking to, not shocking they didn't turn their heads over to the dude.
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