He was long since gone from the station when that happened.
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He was long since gone from the station when that happened.
How is it any different than drinking?
Millions of people enjoy drinking, but every year some lives (sometimes innocent bystanders) are taken. How is it any different?
If the intent is to save lives of innocent people, outlawing alcohol would do the same thing.
la flama blanca
Banned
What? Why the fuck would they do that????
Kacho
Gold Member
LOL
A guy with a bottle of beer can't walk into a theater and murder a bunch of people in a matter of seconds with the bottle. That's how it's different.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
It's a right that has been there for a long while? Banning guns right now would not change the climate at all. There is already a huge pool of weapons out there that it would be impossible to seize all of them. Yes, you stop the future sale of guns, but there will still be plenty, millions of guns in circulation.
Unless the government could effectively deploy a system to remove every gun in the country, then stopping the sale of guns would only cause more problems with the people who love their guns. So as it is, keep the sale of guns as it is now.
RoninChaos
Member
The minute our lawmakers were okay with letting 20 kids get killed and didn't want to do anything about gun control because they were so terrified of the NRA is the day they sold us out. Americans didn't hold our own representatives responsible, instead a lot of us engaged in these stupid ideas that if EVERYBODY was armed then this stuff wouldn't happen. And we went along with that stupid shit willingly. If we let 20 kids get killed and didn't do a fucking thing about gun control then it stands to reason we are NEVER going to fix things here. And I say that as a gun owner.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Frankly i'm worried about the possible timeline that history remembers as "The Great Skateboard Killings of 2025"
Guns have no purpose other than killing.
That's a lovely little fantasy scenario that you just came up with, but do you have a solution that's actually possible? This isn't England. Sorry. You can't just repeal an amendment without people having their say.
Wrong.
This shouldn't be a gun control issue, it should be a mental health issue.
Even recognizing that, I don't know what we could do about it. I mean, it's not like we live in a fictional Minority Report-like world where we can predict when and how a person snaps to properly protect others from it.
Even recognizing that, I don't know what we could do about it. I mean, it's not like we live in a fictional Minority Report-like world where we can predict when and how a person snaps to properly protect others from it.
EdibleExplosives
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Eh? The article was full of people asking for stricter gun control laws, not an outright ban that passes the political process.
Even if that had been the case, your response still would have been incredibly dumb and childish.
OG_Original Gamer
Member
RIP, tragic and disturbing. The one thing that always makes me wonder, is what goes on in the mind of someone that has seen this done on the news or read in the newspapers. They know the usual outcome, they'll get caught or either be killed by law enforcement. Or in most cases commit suicide. So at what point do a person after seeing news reports or reading them, the horrific violence, family morning the loss of a loved one, the national out cry. Can then find some way to justify to themselves doing the same, is justified?
Pinchable Buttocks
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Comparing alcohol and driving automobiles to America's shitty gun control is not for me to refute because its a silly ass argument.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
It's about supply and demand, as previously posted:
The more guns reclaimed, the higher the price on the black market.
I can't even begin to count the ways that this is the same as driving a car. Cars weren't created for the sole purpose of ending life.
The people are having their say.
We're sick of it. We want our politicians to stop kissing up to gun-nuts and the NRA and start actually taking strides to regulate an epidemic of gun violence.
The best thing about america is that we do absolutely nothing about either.
And we all just debate, pushing shit around, while the lobbied politicians aren't even listening to it.
Zabant
Member
I'm going to walk into a school and kill everyone with my concealed DRINKING, it doesn't matter if they run and try to escape as my DRINKING has a range of up to about 2300 meters.
Mental health is an issue outside of stuff like this. This is a gun control issue too because y'know it usually involves a gun.
Where is the evidence this man had a mental illness?
Air Zombie Meat
Member
A crazy idea I know but you could make it a little harder for people to get their hands on guns.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Bingo. That is the entire problem. You should be able to. "People" in this instance literally don't know what's good for them. Sounds dictatorial, but it's true.
What do you use yours for? Turning off the TV?
Patrick S.
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But people would be angry!
It'd be kind of awful if that wasn't the case, wouldn't it? "Oh hey, we don't have that many racist murderers as Mexico has drug criminals during a drug war. Phew!"
That doesn't change the fact that if someone who is intoxicated gets into a car, it turns the car into a lethal weapon. How many people die each year from alcohol related deaths? I'm guessing more than shooting victims.
You can spin it however you want, but it's a valid argument.
Subpar Spatula
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What other function does a gun have? The end goal of using a gun is to kill. That are designed this way.
And I'm out.
BreezyLimbo
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That would take many many many years to happen, though. Alot of years. And as it stands, the amount of guns in the USA extremely dwarf the number in Australia.(88.8 per 100 residents for US, compared to 15 per 100 residents in Australia last year).
It's like you think that no one has ever been hit and killed by a drunk driver.
Honest question, what other purpose does it serve? Hunting and sports also involves that.
The post you quoted refers to a weapon. Guns are dangerous, whether the position holding them is sober or not
Oh I'm sorry, so I HAVE to use my guns for killing? I use them for target shooting, particularly paper targets and skeet shooting (which is an Olympic sport if you haven't noticed). I know, I'm a huge danger to society.
The same purpose a bow and arrow or a sword serves. Their purpose is determined by the person using them.
I'm not going to waste my time with this crap though. So many people here have zero experience with gun ownership and don't understand anything about them. The result is an argument that just goes in circles. I'll always be able to own guns. That isn't changing. So there's no use telling you guys why I think I should be able to own them.
I'm not sure ignoring the intent of guns is a valid argument.
I know, right? We cant go to planet x, that is not the USA, different planet, different people, Different everything and compare it to the real world with real people....
Patrick S.
Banned
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Oh no doubt. I'd be perfectly ok with starting with some basic gun regulation at the federal level to clear up the mess of patchwork laws we have right now. When you can cross state lines to buy a bunch of guns at a gun show, local laws won't work very well.
Going from 100 to 0 is considerably more difficult then going from 100 to 50 so to speak.
The Elite
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Ok. Start now.
Just because it would take a very long time doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
We'd be fucked for space travel.
Hari Seldon
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So basically what you are saying is that the US should implement the Roman system of electing a dictator for 1 year? This didn't work out too well for Rome.
ThatGuyAgain
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I find it very strange that anyone compares gun control to driving, drinking or extreme sports. Very strange argument.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
I can sit in a theatre, a school, my home or a church and not be killed by a drunk driver.
Jibbajabbawockky
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I feel like a huge part of the problem with respect to any conversation on gun control is that you end up with both extremes dominating the conversation- people that want to ban all guns and those that want to arm every man, woman and child. All that kind of talk from either side does is just polarize the entire conversation such that any kind of reforms get shouted down from either side until the impetus to do something (whether that's new laws or more enforcement of existing laws) just peters out.
This whole conversation shouldn't be about just banning guns or giving guns to everyone, it should be about keeping guns out of the hands of people that are seeking them for purely evil intentions.
Zabant
Member
What does accidental death by drink driving have to do with people being targeted and murdered by dickwads with guns; such as the two people today?
Freedom = $1.05
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someone who gets into a car drunk isn't seeking to murder someone. That they might accidentally do so is a possibility but it sure as shit isn't the reason the average person would do such a thing
someone who uses a gun on a person is seeking to kill them or cause them great harm. There's no other way around it. they're not accidentally pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger like the drunk driver is hypothetically doing.
cmon now
Fenderputty
Banned
Not true at all
CharminUltra
Member
First this, and now "KENTUCKY COURTHOUSE SHOOTING" is trending on FB for me.
Just a fun day, isn't it?
Just a fun day, isn't it?
BreezyLimbo
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I'm all for heavier restrictions on buying weapons. A year wait is extremely reasonable. If you really need a gun a week from now, then wait a year and see if you need it then.
Pizza Booty
Banned
awful 
No one is talking about you, they are talking about the device in your hand invented for killing. I'm glad you like to point it away from people, but that doesn't change what it does.
What number of preventable tragedies to we have to endure before this becomes an important issue?
The status quo is clearly unacceptable, yet every measure to prevent these tragedies is met by either "what about the bad guys/illegals/criminals with guns?" (and when you explain one solution they bring up an even more niche way guns could be acquired illegally, and then when you explain a solution for that way they come up with another, not comprehending that as the loophole to acquire guns becomes more and more convoluted there will be less and less illegal guns) or a slippery-slope argument that "if you do this to restrict the mentally ill from having guns, then the government will have to momentum to come for my guns too" (perhaps these people are worried they wouldn't pass the psych the eval?).
Monty Mole
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Erm, pardon? I sincerely apologise, but I'm afraid I don't understand your dialect.
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